Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread RickG 
Ditto

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Scott Lambert 
wrote:

> We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2. No complaints. It
> will probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the
> possibility of weather making it difficult to react to any problems which
> may pop up with the new software.
>
> The new software may be perfect. We just don't have a couple of months to
> test it.
>
>
>
> On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson 
> wrote:
>>
>> So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest?
>>
>> I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on
>> Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with
>> different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused
>> by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions.
>> I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the
>> alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible
>> versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer
>> all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version
>> differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us
>> afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls,
>> although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer
>> upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :)
>>
>> Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Mark
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>>
>> There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone
>> away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to
>> damage my customers experience with other software bugs.
>>
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340
>> Direct: 937-552-2343
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting
>>> features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it
>>> seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities
>>> in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually.
>>>
>>> Mark
>>>
>>> -- Original Message --
>>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>>>
>>> Why fix what isn't broken?
>>>
>>> Josh Luthman
>>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>>> 1100 Wayne St
>>> Suite 1337
>>> Troy, OH 45373
>>>
>>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" 
>>> wrote:
>>>
 I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
 M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
 M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
 unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
 used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
 stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
 can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
 worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
 a version that works well.

 Thanks much!
 Mark Stephenson
 Go Bee Wireless


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread Scott Lambert 
We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2.   No complaints.   It 
will probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the possibility 
of weather making it difficult to react to any problems which may pop up with 
the new software. 

The new software may be perfect.  We just don't have a couple of months to test 
it. 



On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson  
wrote:
>So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest?
>
>I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on
>
>Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy 
>with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different 
>places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect 
>certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not 
>broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug 
>fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool 
>issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know 
>issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks
>
>the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the 
>risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good 
>luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some 
>regularity, but cautiously. :)
>
>Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs?
>
>Thanks,
>Mark
>
>-- Original Message --
>From: "Josh Luthman" 
>To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM
>Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>
>>There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone 
>>away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not 
>>updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs.
>>
>>
>>Josh Luthman
>>Office: 937-552-2340
>>Direct: 937-552-2343
>>1100 Wayne St
>>Suite 1337
>>Troy, OH 45373
>>
>>On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson 
>> wrote:
>>>Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting 
>>>features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job,
>
>>>it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber 
>>>vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes
>now 
>>>or eventually.
>>>
>>>Mark
>>>
>>>-- Original Message --
>>>From: "Josh Luthman" 
>>>To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>>>Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
>>>Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>>>
Why fix what isn't broken?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  
wrote:
>I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
>M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, 
>Airgrid
>M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
>unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax.
>
>I
>used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came
>out 
>I
>stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me
>
>if I
>can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I
>am 
>not
>worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just
>
>want
>a version that works well.
>
>Thanks much!
>Mark Stephenson
>Go Bee Wireless
>
>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread Troy Gibson, Byhalia.net,LLC 
I have a mix of 5.6.x but have most on 5.6.15 for XW and XM.   I see 5.6.9 for 
XM working beat for me.  I have not made the jump to 6.x.x yet, waiting to hear 
if it helps or not.  
I know airmax channel 41 on 2.4ghz and 169 on 5 ghz disappeared at somepoint.  
Not sure why.


Troy Gibson
Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone
 Original message From: Mark Stephenson 
 Date: 10/17/17  9:55 PM  (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti 
Users Group  Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 
Upgrade to 6.1.2 
So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? 
I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on 
Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with 
different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused by 
different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. I 
understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the alternative 
has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible versions, varied 
user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a 
uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version differences and 
everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade 
because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very 
good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some 
regularity, but cautiously. :)
Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs?
Thanks,Mark


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2


There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from 
updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my 
customers experience with other software bugs.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson  wrote:
Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features 
like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that 
older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New 
versions often include security fixes now or eventually.
Mark


-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2


Why fix what isn't broken?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373
On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  wrote:
I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket

M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid

M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment

unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I

used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I

stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I

can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not

worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want

a version that works well.



Thanks much!

Mark Stephenson

Go Bee Wireless





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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
I can't speak to v6, sorry...

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 17, 2017 9:56 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  wrote:

> So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest?
>
> I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on
> Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with
> different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused
> by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions.
> I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the
> alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible
> versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer
> all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version
> differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us
> afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls,
> although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer
> upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :)
>
> Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs?
>
> Thanks,
> Mark
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>
> There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away
> from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to
> damage my customers experience with other software bugs.
>
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson 
> wrote:
>
>> Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting
>> features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it
>> seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities
>> in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually.
>>
>> Mark
>>
>> -- Original Message --
>> From: "Josh Luthman" 
>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>>
>> Why fix what isn't broken?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
>>> M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
>>> M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
>>> unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
>>> used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
>>> stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
>>> can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
>>> worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
>>> a version that works well.
>>>
>>> Thanks much!
>>> Mark Stephenson
>>> Go Bee Wireless
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread Mark Stephenson 

So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest?

I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on 
Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy 
with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different 
places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect 
certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not 
broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug 
fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool 
issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know 
issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks 
the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the 
risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good 
luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some 
regularity, but cautiously. :)


Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs?

Thanks,
Mark

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone 
away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not 
updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs.



Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson 
 wrote:
Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting 
features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, 
it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber 
vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now 
or eventually.


Mark

-- Original Message --
From: "Josh Luthman" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2


Why fix what isn't broken?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  
wrote:

I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, 
Airgrid

M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. 
I
used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out 
I
stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me 
if I
can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am 
not
worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just 
want

a version that works well.

Thanks much!
Mark Stephenson
Go Bee Wireless


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread CBB - Jay Fuller 
We like cyber guys :)

Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone

- Reply message -
From: "Mark Stephenson" 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
Subject: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
Date: Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:08 PM

Well, two reasons.. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features 
like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that 
older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New 
versions often include security fixes now or eventually.

Mark




-- Original Message --

From: "Josh Luthman" 

To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 

Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM

Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2



Why fix what isn't broken?Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 
937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373
On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  wrote:I 
have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
a version that works well.

Thanks much!
Mark Stephenson
Go Bee Wireless


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Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away
from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to
damage my customers experience with other software bugs.


Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson 
wrote:

> Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting
> features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it
> seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities
> in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually.
>
> Mark
>
> -- Original Message --
> From: "Josh Luthman" 
> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
>
> Why fix what isn't broken?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson"  wrote:
>
>> I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket
>> M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid
>> M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment
>> unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I
>> used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I
>> stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I
>> can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not
>> worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want
>> a version that works well.
>>
>> Thanks much!
>> Mark Stephenson
>> Go Bee Wireless
>>
>>
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[Ubnt_users] UBNT GPON

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ayp_gwPjUzw 




- 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
Correct. 




- 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 

- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:13:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


So not employees. 


Josh Luthman 
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On Oct 17, 2017 6:12 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




"superuser" fanboys 




- 
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Midwest Internet Exchange 

The Brothers WISP 



From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:11:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


I don't speak evil forum. 


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On Oct 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




That's eejimm. I saw ClaudeSS in there as well. 




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From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:05:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


Was that guy a Ubnt employee? Or client? 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
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On Oct 17, 2017 5:58 PM, "David Jones" < d...@nglconnection.com > wrote: 



I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I have a 
14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6, and some 
times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz channel. And it is 
definitely not the size of my car. 


Other then that looks cool. 
later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be possible to 
do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum? 


On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
So not employees.

Josh Luthman
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On Oct 17, 2017 6:12 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> "superuser" fanboys
>
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> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:11:56 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU
>
> I don't speak evil forum.
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:
>
>> That's eejimm. I saw ClaudeSS in there as well.
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
>> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Midwest Internet Exchange 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> The Brothers WISP 
>> 
>> 
>> --
>> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
>> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
>> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:05:49 PM
>> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU
>>
>> Was that guy a Ubnt employee?  Or client?
>>
>> Josh Luthman
>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
>> 1100 Wayne St
>> Suite 1337
>> Troy, OH 45373
>>
>> On Oct 17, 2017 5:58 PM, "David Jones"  wrote:
>>
>>> I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I
>>> have a 14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6,
>>> and some times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz
>>> channel. And it is definitely not the size of my car.
>>>
>>> Other then that looks cool.
>>> later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be
>>> possible to do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum?
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett <
>>> wispaubntus...@ics-il.net> wrote:
>>>
 https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg



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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
"superuser" fanboys 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:11:56 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


I don't speak evil forum. 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Oct 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Mike Hammett" < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > wrote: 




That's eejimm. I saw ClaudeSS in there as well. 




- 
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Intelligent Computing Solutions 

Midwest Internet Exchange 

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From: "Josh Luthman" < j...@imaginenetworksllc.com > 
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" < ubnt_users@wispa.org > 
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:05:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


Was that guy a Ubnt employee? Or client? 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Oct 17, 2017 5:58 PM, "David Jones" < d...@nglconnection.com > wrote: 



I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I have a 
14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6, and some 
times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz channel. And it is 
definitely not the size of my car. 


Other then that looks cool. 
later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be possible to 
do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum? 


On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
I don't speak evil forum.

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
1100 Wayne St
Suite 1337
Troy, OH 45373

On Oct 17, 2017 6:10 PM, "Mike Hammett"  wrote:

> That's eejimm. I saw ClaudeSS in there as well.
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
> Intelligent Computing Solutions 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Midwest Internet Exchange 
> 
> 
> 
> The Brothers WISP 
> 
> 
> --
> *From: *"Josh Luthman" 
> *To: *"Ubiquiti Users Group" 
> *Sent: *Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:05:49 PM
> *Subject: *Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU
>
> Was that guy a Ubnt employee?  Or client?
>
> Josh Luthman
> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340>
> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343>
> 1100 Wayne St
> Suite 1337
> Troy, OH 45373
>
> On Oct 17, 2017 5:58 PM, "David Jones"  wrote:
>
>> I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I
>> have a 14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6,
>> and some times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz
>> channel. And it is definitely not the size of my car.
>>
>> Other then that looks cool.
>> later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be
>> possible to do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum?
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett > > wrote:
>>
>>> https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> -
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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
That's eejimm. I saw ClaudeSS in there as well. 




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- Original Message -

From: "Josh Luthman"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 5:05:49 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


Was that guy a Ubnt employee? Or client? 


Josh Luthman 
Office: 937-552-2340 
Direct: 937-552-2343 
1100 Wayne St 
Suite 1337 
Troy, OH 45373 


On Oct 17, 2017 5:58 PM, "David Jones" < d...@nglconnection.com > wrote: 



I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I have a 
14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6, and some 
times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz channel. And it is 
definitely not the size of my car. 


Other then that looks cool. 
later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be possible to 
do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum? 


On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
He may have meant Mu-MIMO for PtP as opposed to PtMP. 




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From: "David Jones"  
To: "Ubiquiti Users Group"  
Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 4:58:31 PM 
Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU 


I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I have a 
14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6, and some 
times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz channel. And it is 
definitely not the size of my car. 


Other then that looks cool. 
later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be possible to 
do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum? 


On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett < wispaubntus...@ics-il.net > 
wrote: 




https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg 




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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Josh Luthman 
Was that guy a Ubnt employee?  Or client?

Josh Luthman
Office: 937-552-2340
Direct: 937-552-2343
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On Oct 17, 2017 5:58 PM, "David Jones"  wrote:

> I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I
> have a 14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6,
> and some times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz
> channel. And it is definitely not the size of my car.
>
> Other then that looks cool.
> later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be possible
> to do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum?
>
> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett 
> wrote:
>
>> https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg
>>
>>
>>
>> -
>> Mike Hammett
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Re: [Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread David Jones 
I am not to keen on his opinion that MU-MIMO is not feasible in 5ghz. I
have a 14x14 cambium 450m up and working right now that is talking to 5,6,
and some times 7 clients at once and pushing over 240mbps in a 20mhz
channel. And it is definitely not the size of my car.

Other then that looks cool.
later if they really do have 2 RF chips in the future would it be possible
to do 2x100mhz channels for the areas that have the open spectrum?

On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 11:57 AM, Mike Hammett 
wrote:

> https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg
>
>
>
> -
> Mike Hammett
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> 
> 
> 
> 
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[Ubnt_users] WISPAPALOOZA2017 - LTU

2017-10-17 Thread Mike Hammett 
https://youtu.be/-0byzzfgtIg 




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