Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs

2018-08-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/14/18 10:04 AM, Blair Davis wrote:
> Unless you are attempting to do make a 'wireless wire' pre-configured 
> PtP link in which case the 2-pac doesn't go far enough.
> 


2Pac is considered one of the greatest rappers of all time.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs

2018-08-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/13/18 09:41, RickG wrote:
> With respect, we don't know everything about the lawsuit. Also, I'd bet 
> if the shoe were on the other foot, another manufacturer would sue a WISP.


I presume you've read the suit to make that claim?

https://www.law360.com/articles/1071813/wireless-co-ubiquiti-says-rival-sells-hacking-firmware

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Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti commitment to WISPs

2018-08-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/13/18 7:41 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
> 
> Ben Moore and James Craig.   This is my request to Ubiquity to make a BOLD 
> statement in some way that shows your commitment to the WISP community and 
> your appreciation to those of us that have stuck by your side through years 
> of "soon GPS", Elevate, 2-pack CPEs, poor supply chain planning and many 
> other goofy decisions you have made over the years that have made us defend 
> out position to stay with UBNT as our Primary Vendor.  It is time for a 
> little appreciation.


UBNT is naming WISPs in lawsuits with wild accusations. That's the 
statement they're making.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Ubiquiti Sues Cambium

2018-08-12 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 8/12/18 11:01 AM, Matt Hoppes wrote:
> People didn’t buy. Move on. Good months and bad. Don’t like it?  Stop 
> investing. Any other questions?
> 


Previous quarter: We'll see at least $20 million in this sector by next 
quarter!

This quarter: Uh, actually we didn't see any of that money, but it was 
our competitor's fault so we sued them.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11 10x

2018-03-23 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 3/23/18 7:03 AM, alex phillips wrote:
> Can those who use AF11 and are able to establish a link a 10x reliably 
> please share your link information?
> 
> Distance,  Dish and power settings.


Match your license. Don't randomly increase power, 11GHz travels a long 
way and you can easily interfere with another licensee.
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/16/17 5:00 PM, J Portman wrote:
> 1024QAM with MIMO. They claim 1.3 gig each direction on 56MHZ channel.


That's the marketing aggregate number, divide by two for capacity in 
each direction.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/15/17 2:29 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> not trying to be anal even in your statement there is a 'as long as'
>
> There is no such 'as long as' requirement with the B11 sync.


So the back to back requirement that say setting up a PMP450 synce'd 
cluster has so that a subscriber can't hear multiple sectors on the same 
frequency is not a problem anymore? Is that the GPS/TDD innovation the 
B11 made, allowing the "subscriber" side to be able to hear multiple 
interfering "tower" sides?

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-16 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/15/17 12:46 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Can we do that today with FDD ? or the other party is going to get their 
> panties in tbe bunch because their radio can hear your radio ?


Yes. Their radio CAN NOT hear your radio, even if they were pointed 
facing into each other. It's impossible. Frequency division.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/15/17 7:17 AM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> In case of Mimosa, you are actually getting something that has not existed 
> before in the Licensed Radio world...
> Their radios don't care if they can hear each other.. and they will still 
> operate, co-exist
> exactly how gps sync, channel reuse works in the TDD world...



But I don't need TDD or GPS sync to point take a channel pair I'm using 
in one direction and reuse it in a different direction, so I'm not clear 
what has been improved. The argument is I can do something I can already 
do, but with higher latency.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/14/17 5:09 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> I would love to be more 'educated' in this matter...
>
> How exactly is this achieved in real world ?
> I have been told that if another operator is using that channel & polarity, I 
> cannot use it in the other direction...
>
> So, technically it is feasible, but practically how is this accomplished ?


By designing the path so that they can't hear each other. You can easily 
use the same or overlapping frequency pair back to back or any 
orientation where it won't pick up the other far side because of 
high/low separation. I've got a couple channels that overlap with 
another operator, but the azimuth/elevation are different enough (not 
back to back) and we're both using 3' Radiowaves antennas with deep 
shrouds. Among other things, the shrouds reduce sidelobes. Good antennas 
make a difference.

Two or more "high" side or "low" side radios together won't interfere 
since they can't tune the RX side in the same part of the band. That's 
how FDD reuse works. A "high" side radio is deaf to anything else in the 
"high" side, it only hears a matching "low" side radio. Obviously the 
paths have to be different enough that each tower radio won't hear the 
other's far side. If you mix high/low at the same location that's when 
you run into trouble by creating a situation known as "bucking".

GPS sync in TDD where you're having to use the same frequency for TX and 
RX syncs all the TX together so you don't have one radio in TX while 
another nearby is in RX, thus causing interference. But since FDD has 
frequency separation this is not a problem. Think of FDD radios together 
at a tower as always only in TX mode.

The Mimosa B11 has created this weird myth among WISPs that only it 
allows for reuse because WISPs are used to using the same frequency for 
TX and RX, but that's not really the case with FDD equipment.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-14 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/14/17 3:18 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> and BTW, in regards to Mimosa B11 they get a pass for being a channel 
> hog... because they also allow you to reuse the channel  in a different 
> direction due to GPS Sync capabilities .. yes it does not help if you are 
> not using non Mimosa Radios...


I hear this a lot, but you can readily reuse a channel in a different 
direction with any FDD microwave as is because of the high/low split.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] 4096 QAM (was: 24Ghz link Airfiber)

2017-04-13 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 4/13/17 12:48, J Portman wrote:
> ETSI allows 112MHZ channels. FCC limits to 80. BUT, if your equipment
> supports it, you can license two adjacent bands of 80 for 160MHZ channels.


Danger... do not think of it as a 160MHz channel. The FCC requires 
individual carriers per channel, so you CAN NOT license two 80MHz 
channels and run a single carrier inside it.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AC2 and AF24

2016-09-30 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/30/16 6:22 PM, Scotty Rice wrote:
>  If you are trying to use a password longer than eight character try
> using just the first  eight characters. The af24 only uses up to eight
> characters


What year are we in again?
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11x Question.

2016-09-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/15/16 7:45 PM, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> Yes, Seth.
>
> But these are not "High / Low" radios...
> They use both channels for TX & RX ... Please correct me if I am wrong.


I thought there was talk about how it had a field adjustable diplexer 
(which was a thing Exalt touted for single-unit sparing) which usually 
means high/low because literally that's what a diplexer does.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF11x Question.

2016-09-15 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 9/15/16 10:08, Faisal Imtiaz wrote:
> 1) Are the AF11x going to have 'sync' capability so that the channel
> freq can be reused by another AF11x pointing in a different direction ?


That's not really a problem with high/low microwave. I don't know where 
people are getting the idea that it is or suddenly sync is needed, it's not.

Daniel said it better:

http://afmug.com/pipermail/af/2015-October/034385.html

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-11 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/10/14, 20:16, Blair Davis wrote:
 AirPrism was/is supposed to return to us the benefits, (adjacent channel
 rejection, improved sensitivity), of the original dual superheterodyne
 Hermes I and Intersil Prism II chipsets as opposed to the current direct
 conversion Atheros chipsets.

 I don't see a major use for it in clients, but for an AP, it could be
 worth quite a bit to me.


I have a few clients where it's a major problem and would be helpful.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] Rocket ACs

2014-12-09 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/9/14, 11:32, Ty Featherling wrote:
 Oh there is a word.. and as usual the word is 'Soon'.



I think soon is the new it's on the boat.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/2/14, 5:34 AM, Steve Barnes wrote:
 However, I also remember all of us bitching about AC being a Java app
 and not having a web UI for our phones and other devices.  When Ben
 Moore said that we would not have to worry about that in the next
 version I kind of thought about a hosted solution, but thought “Oh surly
 not”.



That's why I still use AC1. But that's the problem. I look at the UniFi 
controller and wonder why did AC1 get abandoned? How hard can it really 
be to fix the few things that are wrong with AC1?

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/2/14, 8:52, Daniel Peoples wrote:
 Yes, but we both know that the epmp doesn't support this, the 450 does.


Are you referring to CNS Server?

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 10:04, Matt Hoppes wrote:
 I'm the last person in the world to recommend a TS to anyone

 That said... have you ever had a WBH SA take a hit?  If so, what, if
 anything did it also do to your switch ports?

 Shorting the switch port when the SA takes a hit doesn't seem like a
 wise idea.  That's bound to blow most anything.


That's the correct way for any surge suppressor to work: clamp to ground 
once the breakover voltage is exceeded.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] airFiber Surge Arresters

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 10:47, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Why?  You should always use HV.


On the non-GigE WB models like the 444 some people prefer a low clamping 
voltage on the data pairs not carrying POE voltage vs. the POE pairs 
which have a higher clamping voltage.

I use the GigE HV because it's one part for universal use.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] AF5 distance

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 12:34, Josh Luthman wrote:
 Waste of time in the licensed world.  They all perform as they
 advertise.  Modulation * channel size = megabits per second.  Price
 varies, GUI varies, support varies.  Go SAF!


It was my understanding that there would be no math.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 13:20, Adair Winter wrote:

 I just don't see how this can be true... Most people can't make a VPN
 work as it is how the hell am I supposed to depend on this to work if
 it's not INSIDE my network?


Why aren't all of your radios open to the internet? You're obviously 
doing it wrong.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 16:44, Kees H wrote:
 Why would I waste public ips on my radios, so ubnt can have control of my
 radios?  Don't they know ARIN is running out of IPv4 addresses?


But it's CLOUD.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 13:35, Mike Hammett wrote:
 I don't know how anyone could read their target market this badly.


But are we really their target market?

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] New airControl

2014-12-01 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 12/1/14, 6:14 PM, Tom Fadgen wrote:
 I am sure glad that I own my business; and that said, as a business
 owner I look to make choices from those available; not cry over what is not!
 One thing is going to solve this problem, the one with UBNT not listing
 to their customers and providing a lot of shit we do not want or need
 from them.


Shareholders might want it.

~Seth
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Re: [Ubnt_users] NanoBeam M5 400

2014-11-02 Thread Seth Mattinen
On 11/2/14, 4:20 PM, Paul wrote:
 So are you saying the Nanobeams and PTP-AC's we have already bought will
 not certify because of hardware problems?



No, he said they have a history of not certifying everything and thus a 
risk of such a situation. The PowerBridge M5 for example.

~Seth
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