Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
All our radios are on private IPs that are only accessible from 2 public IPs. Except our dedicated speedtest radios, which are only accessible from our private IPs From: Josh Luthman Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 6:11 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users>___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? Thanks, Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
We have been upgrading as fast as reasonably possible to 8.4 and 6.1 with all other firmwares mixed in. All our radios are in simple bridge or routed mode with no VLANs, PPPoe, or any other things that many of you use. In this environment, we have seen zero issues with all the firmwares from 6.04 to 6.1 and 8.2 to 8.4. Rory From: ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org [mailto:ubnt_users-boun...@wispa.org] On Behalf Of RickG Sent: Tuesday, October 17, 2017 9:27 PM To: Ubiquiti Users Group Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Ditto On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org<mailto:lamb...@lambertfam.org>> wrote: We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2. No complaints. It will probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the possibility of weather making it difficult to react to any problems which may pop up with the new software. The new software may be perfect. We just don't have a couple of months to test it. On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com<mailto:m...@gobeewireless.com>> wrote: So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? Thanks, Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com<mailto:m...@gobeewireless.com>> wrote: Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com<mailto:j...@imaginenetworksllc.com>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:ubnt_users@wispa.org>> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340<tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343<tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com<mailto:m...@gobeewireless.com>> wrote: I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org<mailto:Ubnt_users@wispa.org> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. ___ Ubnt_users maili
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
Ditto On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 10:44 PM, Scott Lambert <lamb...@lambertfam.org> wrote: > We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2. No complaints. It > will probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the > possibility of weather making it difficult to react to any problems which > may pop up with the new software. > > The new software may be perfect. We just don't have a couple of months to > test it. > > > > On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> > wrote: >> >> So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? >> >> I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on >> Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with >> different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused >> by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. >> I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the >> alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible >> versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer >> all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version >> differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us >> afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, >> although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer >> upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) >> >> Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? >> >> Thanks, >> Mark >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 >> >> There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone >> away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to >> damage my customers experience with other software bugs. >> >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 >> Direct: 937-552-2343 >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting >>> features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it >>> seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities >>> in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. >>> >>> Mark >>> >>> -- Original Message -- >>> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM >>> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 >>> >>> Why fix what isn't broken? >>> >>> Josh Luthman >>> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >>> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >>> 1100 Wayne St >>> Suite 1337 >>> Troy, OH 45373 >>> >>> On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket >>>> M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid >>>> M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment >>>> unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I >>>> used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I >>>> stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I >>>> can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not >>>> worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want >>>> a version that works well. >>>> >>>> Thanks much! >>>> Mark Stephenson >>>> Go Bee Wireless >>>> >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >>> >> > -- > Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity. > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > -- -RickG ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
We have about 1500 units on 6.0.4 and a bunch of 8.3.2. No complaints. It will probably be late spring before we risk 6.1.x/8.4.x due to the possibility of weather making it difficult to react to any problems which may pop up with the new software. The new software may be perfect. We just don't have a couple of months to test it. On October 17, 2017 7:55:54 PM MDT, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: >So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? > >I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on > >Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy >with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different >places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect >certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not >broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug >fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool >issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know >issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks > >the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the >risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good >luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some >regularity, but cautiously. :) > >Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? > >Thanks, >Mark > >-- Original Message -- >From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM >Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 > >>There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone >>away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not >>updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. >> >> >>Josh Luthman >>Office: 937-552-2340 >>Direct: 937-552-2343 >>1100 Wayne St >>Suite 1337 >>Troy, OH 45373 >> >>On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson >><m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: >>>Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting >>>features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, > >>>it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber >>>vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes >now >>>or eventually. >>> >>>Mark >>> >>>-- Original Message -- >>>From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >>>To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >>>Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM >>>Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 >>> >>>>Why fix what isn't broken? >>>> >>>>Josh Luthman >>>>Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340> >>>>Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343> >>>>1100 Wayne St >>>>Suite 1337 >>>>Troy, OH 45373 >>>> >>>>On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> >>>>wrote: >>>>>I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket >>>>>M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, >>>>>Airgrid >>>>>M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment >>>>>unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. > >>>>>I >>>>>used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came >out >>>>>I >>>>>stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me > >>>>>if I >>>>>can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I >am >>>>>not >>>>>worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just > >>>>>want >>>>>a version that works well. >>>>> >>>>>Thanks much! >>>>>Mark Stephenson >>>>>Go Bee Wireless >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>___ >>>>>Ubnt_users mailing list >>>>>Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>>>><http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >>> >>>___ >>>Ubnt_users mailing list >>>Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>>http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>><http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> >>> >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
I have a mix of 5.6.x but have most on 5.6.15 for XW and XM. I see 5.6.9 for XM working beat for me. I have not made the jump to 6.x.x yet, waiting to hear if it helps or not. I know airmax channel 41 on 2.4ghz and 169 on 5 ghz disappeared at somepoint. Not sure why. Troy Gibson Sent from my Verizon, Samsung Galaxy smartphone Original message From: Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> Date: 10/17/17 9:55 PM (GMT-05:00) To: Ubiquiti Users Group <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? Thanks,Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
I can't speak to v6, sorry... Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 9:56 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: > So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? > > I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on > Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with > different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused > by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. > I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the > alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible > versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer > all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version > differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us > afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, > although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer > upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) > > Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? > > Thanks, > Mark > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 > > There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away > from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to > damage my customers experience with other software bugs. > > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> > wrote: > >> Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting >> features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it >> seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities >> in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. >> >> Mark >> >> -- Original Message -- >> From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> >> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> >> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM >> Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 >> >> Why fix what isn't broken? >> >> Josh Luthman >> Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> >> Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> >> 1100 Wayne St >> Suite 1337 >> Troy, OH 45373 >> >> On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> >> wrote: >> >>> I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket >>> M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid >>> M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment >>> unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I >>> used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I >>> stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I >>> can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not >>> worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want >>> a version that works well. >>> >>> Thanks much! >>> Mark Stephenson >>> Go Bee Wireless >>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Ubnt_users mailing list >>> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >>> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >>> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
So as you add new equipment, what version do you use? The latest? I understand the reasoning behind that approach. It is commonly done on Mikrotik routers. In my experience, this approach also gets very messy with different interfaces and fields on forms located in different places caused by different versions. And monitoring tools often expect certain versions. I understand the logic of "don't fix it if it is not broken" but the alternative has its drawbacks too (cyber risks, no bug fixes, incompatible versions, varied user interfaces, monitoring tool issues, etc.). I prefer all devices at a uniform version so I know issues are not caused by version differences and everything works/looks the same. Sadly Ubiquiti has made us afraid to upgrade because of the risk of added problems and truck rolls, although I did have very good luck with version 5.x. I think I still prefer upgrading with some regularity, but cautiously. :) Is version 6.1.2 something good or is it more bugs? Thanks, Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 9:11:35 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken? Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 <tel:(937)%20552-2340> Direct: 937-552-2343 <tel:(937)%20552-2343> 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users <http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users> ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
We like cyber guys :) Sent from my Verizon 4G LTE Smartphone - Reply message - From: "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Subject: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Date: Tue, Oct 17, 2017 8:08 PM Well, two reasons.. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. Mark -- Original Message -- From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 Why fix what isn't broken?Josh LuthmanOffice: 937-552-2340Direct: 937-552-23431100 Wayne StSuite 1337Troy, OH 45373 On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote:I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want a version that works well. Thanks much! Mark Stephenson Go Bee Wireless ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2
There will always be vulnerabilities and while I'd never push someone away from updating for security reasons, I can tell you I'm not updating to damage my customers experience with other software bugs. Josh Luthman Office: 937-552-2340 Direct: 937-552-2343 1100 Wayne St Suite 1337 Troy, OH 45373 On Tue, Oct 17, 2017 at 9:08 PM, Mark Stephenson <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: > Well, two reasons. 1) I think the new version has a few interesting > features like % CPU utilization, and 2) As a cyber guy in my day job, it > seems that older versions kept around often lead to cyber vulnerabilities > in time. New versions often include security fixes now or eventually. > > Mark > > -- Original Message -- > From: "Josh Luthman" <j...@imaginenetworksllc.com> > To: "Ubiquiti Users Group" <ubnt_users@wispa.org> > Sent: 10/17/2017 8:44:57 PM > Subject: Re: [Ubnt_users] Airmax 5.6.9 Upgrade to 6.1.2 > > Why fix what isn't broken? > > Josh Luthman > Office: 937-552-2340 <(937)%20552-2340> > Direct: 937-552-2343 <(937)%20552-2343> > 1100 Wayne St > Suite 1337 > Troy, OH 45373 > > On Oct 17, 2017 8:38 PM, "Mark Stephenson" <m...@gobeewireless.com> wrote: > >> I have a small all-Ubiquiti WISP with M Series devices like: Rocket >> M900s, Rocket M2, PowerBeam M2, Nanostation M2, PicoStation M2, Airgrid >> M2, Bullet M2, and Nanostation M5 (none of that cool AC equipment >> unfortunately). All devices are running on version 5.6.9 of Airmax. I >> used to keep up with the latest versions but when version 6 came out I >> stopped after talk on this list of various problems. Please tell me if I >> can safely upgrade to version 6.1.2 now. Should I do APs first? I am not >> worried about going back to old versions (signed or unsigned), just want >> a version that works well. >> >> Thanks much! >> Mark Stephenson >> Go Bee Wireless >> >> >> ___ >> Ubnt_users mailing list >> Ubnt_users@wispa.org >> http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users >> > > ___ > Ubnt_users mailing list > Ubnt_users@wispa.org > http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users > > ___ Ubnt_users mailing list Ubnt_users@wispa.org http://lists.wispa.org/mailman/listinfo/ubnt_users
