It needed a few changes to /etc/default/grub then for update-grub to get
run and now I can have orca working in ubuntu and espeakup even before
orca gets going.
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A friend needs orca to speak faster and with less punctuation than is in
the defaults in gsettings in ubuntu 19.10.
Since I'm most of 900 miles away from him and he has no other linux
support in that community I figured installing and running espeakup in
console and only running orca for a few