Re: getting Orca back

[Rob Whyte]

Hi Glen,
I have seen you for several years now struggling to get an OS up and
running.

Do you change operating system a lot and if so why?
Have you considered using Vinux which is setup out of the box for you?

Thanks
Rob Whyte

On 19/11/16 14:12, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
> Hi All,
> After the latest of my attempts I tried from here, I still have no
> Orca, and sound tests yield nothing either.
> I hear pops while Ubuntu is starting.
> Anyone know how to get the audio back to defaults so I may get this
> thing working again?
> I'll have to type into a terminal without speech, hoping I get no typos.
> Thanks for any assistance.
> Glenn
>
>

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[Glenn / Lenny]

Hi All,
After the latest of my attempts I tried from here, I still have no Orca, and 
sound tests yield nothing either.
I hear pops while Ubuntu is starting.
Anyone know how to get the audio back to defaults so I may get this thing 
working again?
I'll have to type into a terminal without speech, hoping I get no typos.
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Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

[Jude DaShiell]

That may have to be run in user account, I just don't know what kind of 
control you'll have.  If that produces identical results then pulseaudio 
demon has to be started and the process repeated.  There may be a 
pulseaudio daemon service file somewhere which had best not be started 
until after you get stuff working since that could have really 
destructive accessibility results.


On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 13:37:00
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

I ran
pacmd
as root and it came back with:
home directory not accessible, permission denied
no pulseaudio deamon running or not running a session deamon.


Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work


My suggestion then would be to install pacmd and run that in a console
once you learn how to use it and see if you can change to c2 using pacmd
as root, then run alsactl store as root and see if that works.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:13:09
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: Jude DaShiell ,
ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

Hi,
For Juan, I did not have pacucontrol installed, so I installed it.
It was easy enough to get around with Orca, but I could only read the name
of the bluetooth speaker with the review controls, the actual cursor would
never let me navigate to it to control it.
Jude, I ran alsamixer, and it seemed unusable with Orca.
When I do aplay -l
I get a list, but bluetooth speaker on or off, there is no change, and it
does not show up in the list.

On another note, I did:
speaker-test -c 2
and the bluetooth speaker did the speaker test, but not the wired speaker
that Orca runs through.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work


That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your
system.  So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to
use to adjust output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l
since that will tell you about all available devices.  What I would do
is first shut the bluetooth speaker off and run aplay -l and check
output.  Then turn on bluetooth speaker and make sure bluetooth speaker
is paired and run aplay -l again.  See if the output is any different.
If so, you probably know which speaker to set as the default.  Next,
study pactl (good luck figuring out their terminology) and learn how to
use that if you have pulseaudio installed on your system.  If not, you
don't have to deal with pactl or pacmd.  Next study alsamixer and if you
don't have pulseaudio installed, adjust your speaker with alsamixer and
test with speakertest once adjusted with connected speakers attached and
on.  If the connected speakers are silent but your bluetooth speaker
runs then run alsactl store as root and then reboot and if all works
well, your problem is solved.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:42:12
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: making a bluetooth speaker work

Hi,
I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker
pocket Bluetooth Speaker.
I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in
control center, I can test it fine.
But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only
comes through connected speaker.
So how does one get it to default to the bluetooth speaker?
As mentioned, it works, as the left and right test sounds come from it,
but that is the only thing I can get it to do so far.
Thanks for any assistance.
Glenn








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Re: Ubuntu-accessibility Digest, Vol 129, Issue 7

[Glenn / Lenny]

Since the wired speakers did not work in the speaker test, but the bluetooth 
one did, I ran:
alsactl store
as suggested, but after rebooting, Orca sounded like another language and 
English mixed, like part of words were Swedish or something, so I went in 
and tweaked the Orca settings to American English and rebooted, but now, I 
have no speech at all, but I hear the speakers pop as usual on startup and a 
slight speaker hiss, but I just cannot get any audio from Orca.
I don't know if it is running or not.
I ran orca, and that did not help.
I ran as root:
espeak "hello"
which usually works, but does not now.
Speaker-test -c 2
does not do anything either.
The bluetooth speaker acts like it is paired, as it beeps after powering up, 
indicating it paired.
The speaker pops and hiss come from the wired speaker.
Is there something I can do to get Orca talking again?
Thanks.

Glenn
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From: 

> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 10:44:27
> From: Jude DaShiell 
> To: Glenn / Lenny , 
> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work
>
> That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your 
> system.
> So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to use to 
> adjust
> output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l since that will 
> tell
> you about all available devices.  What I would do is first shut the 
> bluetooth
> speaker off and run aplay -l and check output.  Then turn on bluetooth
> speaker and make sure bluetooth speaker is paired and run aplay -l again.
> See if the output is any different. If so, you probably know which speaker 
> to
> set as the default.  Next, study pactl (good luck figuring out their
> terminology) and learn how to use that if you have pulseaudio installed on
> your system.  If not, you don't have to deal with pactl or pacmd.  Next 
> study
> alsamixer and if you don't have pulseaudio installed, adjust your speaker
> with alsamixer and test with speakertest once adjusted with connected
> speakers attached and on.  If the connected speakers are silent but your
> bluetooth speaker runs then run alsactl store as root and then reboot and 
> if
> all works well, your problem is solved.
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:42:12
>> From: Glenn / Lenny 
>> To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: making a bluetooth speaker work
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
>> I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker
>> pocket Bluetooth Speaker.
>> I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in
>> control center, I can test it fine.
>> But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only
>> comes through connected speaker.
>> So how does one get it to default to the bluetooth speaker?
>> As mentioned, it works, as the left and right test sounds come from it, 
>> but
>> that is the only thing I can get it to do so far.
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> Glenn
>
>

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Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 11:13:09 -0600
From: "Glenn / Lenny" 
To: "Jude DaShiell" ,

Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work
Message-ID: <9DF22249A7C54017A710350F8CB86F0F@LennyAcer5720>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

Hi,
For Juan, I did not have pacucontrol installed, so I installed it.
It was easy enough to get around with Orca, but I could only read the name
of the bluetooth speaker with the review controls, the actual cursor would
never let me navigate to it to control it.
Jude, I ran alsamixer, and it seemed unusable with Orca.
When I do aplay -l
I get a list, but bluetooth speaker on or off, there is no change, and it
does not show up in the list.

On another note, I did:
speaker-test -c 2
and the bluetooth speaker did the speaker test, but not the wired speaker
that Orca runs through.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work


That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your
system.  So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to
use to adjust output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l
since that will tell you about all available devices.  

Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

[Glenn / Lenny]

I ran
pacmd
as root and it came back with:
home directory not accessible, permission denied
no pulseaudio deamon running or not running a session deamon.


Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; 

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 11:42 AM
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work


My suggestion then would be to install pacmd and run that in a console
once you learn how to use it and see if you can change to c2 using pacmd
as root, then run alsactl store as root and see if that works.

On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:13:09
> From: Glenn / Lenny 
> To: Jude DaShiell , 
> ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work
>
> Hi,
> For Juan, I did not have pacucontrol installed, so I installed it.
> It was easy enough to get around with Orca, but I could only read the name
> of the bluetooth speaker with the review controls, the actual cursor would
> never let me navigate to it to control it.
> Jude, I ran alsamixer, and it seemed unusable with Orca.
> When I do aplay -l
> I get a list, but bluetooth speaker on or off, there is no change, and it
> does not show up in the list.
>
> On another note, I did:
> speaker-test -c 2
> and the bluetooth speaker did the speaker test, but not the wired speaker
> that Orca runs through.
> Glenn
> - Original Message -
> From: "Jude DaShiell" 
> To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;
> 
> Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:44 AM
> Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work
>
>
> That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your
> system.  So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to
> use to adjust output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l
> since that will tell you about all available devices.  What I would do
> is first shut the bluetooth speaker off and run aplay -l and check
> output.  Then turn on bluetooth speaker and make sure bluetooth speaker
> is paired and run aplay -l again.  See if the output is any different.
> If so, you probably know which speaker to set as the default.  Next,
> study pactl (good luck figuring out their terminology) and learn how to
> use that if you have pulseaudio installed on your system.  If not, you
> don't have to deal with pactl or pacmd.  Next study alsamixer and if you
> don't have pulseaudio installed, adjust your speaker with alsamixer and
> test with speakertest once adjusted with connected speakers attached and
> on.  If the connected speakers are silent but your bluetooth speaker
> runs then run alsactl store as root and then reboot and if all works
> well, your problem is solved.
>
> On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
>
>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:42:12
>> From: Glenn / Lenny 
>> To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
>> Subject: making a bluetooth speaker work
>>
>> Hi,
>> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
>> I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker
>> pocket Bluetooth Speaker.
>> I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in
>> control center, I can test it fine.
>> But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only
>> comes through connected speaker.
>> So how does one get it to default to the bluetooth speaker?
>> As mentioned, it works, as the left and right test sounds come from it,
>> but that is the only thing I can get it to do so far.
>> Thanks for any assistance.
>> Glenn
>
>

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Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

[Jude DaShiell]

My suggestion then would be to install pacmd and run that in a console 
once you learn how to use it and see if you can change to c2 using pacmd 
as root, then run alsactl store as root and see if that works.


On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 12:13:09
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: Jude DaShiell , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

Hi,
For Juan, I did not have pacucontrol installed, so I installed it.
It was easy enough to get around with Orca, but I could only read the name
of the bluetooth speaker with the review controls, the actual cursor would
never let me navigate to it to control it.
Jude, I ran alsamixer, and it seemed unusable with Orca.
When I do aplay -l
I get a list, but bluetooth speaker on or off, there is no change, and it
does not show up in the list.

On another note, I did:
speaker-test -c 2
and the bluetooth speaker did the speaker test, but not the wired speaker
that Orca runs through.
Glenn
- Original Message -
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ;

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work


That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your
system.  So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to
use to adjust output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l
since that will tell you about all available devices.  What I would do
is first shut the bluetooth speaker off and run aplay -l and check
output.  Then turn on bluetooth speaker and make sure bluetooth speaker
is paired and run aplay -l again.  See if the output is any different.
If so, you probably know which speaker to set as the default.  Next,
study pactl (good luck figuring out their terminology) and learn how to
use that if you have pulseaudio installed on your system.  If not, you
don't have to deal with pactl or pacmd.  Next study alsamixer and if you
don't have pulseaudio installed, adjust your speaker with alsamixer and
test with speakertest once adjusted with connected speakers attached and
on.  If the connected speakers are silent but your bluetooth speaker
runs then run alsactl store as root and then reboot and if all works
well, your problem is solved.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:42:12
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: making a bluetooth speaker work

Hi,
I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker
pocket Bluetooth Speaker.
I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in
control center, I can test it fine.
But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only
comes through connected speaker.
So how does one get it to default to the bluetooth speaker?
As mentioned, it works, as the left and right test sounds come from it,
but that is the only thing I can get it to do so far.
Thanks for any assistance.
Glenn





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Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

[Glenn / Lenny]

Hi,
For Juan, I did not have pacucontrol installed, so I installed it.
It was easy enough to get around with Orca, but I could only read the name 
of the bluetooth speaker with the review controls, the actual cursor would 
never let me navigate to it to control it.
Jude, I ran alsamixer, and it seemed unusable with Orca.
When I do aplay -l
I get a list, but bluetooth speaker on or off, there is no change, and it 
does not show up in the list.

On another note, I did:
speaker-test -c 2
and the bluetooth speaker did the speaker test, but not the wired speaker 
that Orca runs through.
Glenn
- Original Message - 
From: "Jude DaShiell" 
To: "Glenn / Lenny" ; 

Sent: Friday, November 18, 2016 9:44 AM
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work


That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your
system.  So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to
use to adjust output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l
since that will tell you about all available devices.  What I would do
is first shut the bluetooth speaker off and run aplay -l and check
output.  Then turn on bluetooth speaker and make sure bluetooth speaker
is paired and run aplay -l again.  See if the output is any different.
If so, you probably know which speaker to set as the default.  Next,
study pactl (good luck figuring out their terminology) and learn how to
use that if you have pulseaudio installed on your system.  If not, you
don't have to deal with pactl or pacmd.  Next study alsamixer and if you
don't have pulseaudio installed, adjust your speaker with alsamixer and
test with speakertest once adjusted with connected speakers attached and
on.  If the connected speakers are silent but your bluetooth speaker
runs then run alsactl store as root and then reboot and if all works
well, your problem is solved.

On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:

> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:42:12
> From: Glenn / Lenny 
> To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
> Subject: making a bluetooth speaker work
>
> Hi,
> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
> I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker 
> pocket Bluetooth Speaker.
> I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in 
> control center, I can test it fine.
> But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only 
> comes through connected speaker.
> So how does one get it to default to the bluetooth speaker?
> As mentioned, it works, as the left and right test sounds come from it, 
> but that is the only thing I can get it to do so far.
> Thanks for any assistance.
> Glenn

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Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

[Jude DaShiell]

Sometimes a bluetooth dongle is needed and sometimes not if one of those 
is part of your hardware.  Whichever the case may be, see if you can get 
the version of the bluetooth card and if that version is less than 3.0 
that could be some or all of your problem.


On Fri, 18 Nov 2016, Jude DaShiell wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 10:44:27
From: Jude DaShiell 
To: Glenn / Lenny , ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

That's a pulseaudio/alsa problem depending on what you have on your system. 
So pactl or alsamixer will be an intermediate tool for you to use to adjust 
output.  A primary command to run for output is aplay -l since that will tell 
you about all available devices.  What I would do is first shut the bluetooth 
speaker off and run aplay -l and check output.  Then turn on bluetooth 
speaker and make sure bluetooth speaker is paired and run aplay -l again. 
See if the output is any different. If so, you probably know which speaker to 
set as the default.  Next, study pactl (good luck figuring out their 
terminology) and learn how to use that if you have pulseaudio installed on 
your system.  If not, you don't have to deal with pactl or pacmd.  Next study 
alsamixer and if you don't have pulseaudio installed, adjust your speaker 
with alsamixer and test with speakertest once adjusted with connected 
speakers attached and on.  If the connected speakers are silent but your 
bluetooth speaker runs then run alsactl store as root and then reboot and if 
all works well, your problem is solved.


On Thu, 17 Nov 2016, Glenn / Lenny wrote:


Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2016 00:42:12
From: Glenn / Lenny 
To: ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com
Subject: making a bluetooth speaker work

Hi,
I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker 
pocket Bluetooth Speaker.
I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in 
control center, I can test it fine.
But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only 
comes through connected speaker.

So how does one get it to default to the bluetooth speaker?
As mentioned, it works, as the left and right test sounds come from it, but 
that is the only thing I can get it to do so far.

Thanks for any assistance.
Glenn





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Re: making a bluetooth speaker work

[Glenn / Lenny]

Hi Luke and All,
I could not find any audio settings that would allow me to change this.
Could it also be that it has to do with the fact that it's Bluetooth 3.0?
Also, I looked on the applications tab of the sound in hardware, and there is a 
bunch of speech dispatchers, and they all are not muted and have a valid number 
for the volume gain.
Thanks for any more ideas.

Glenn


It may be that the device does not support sample rates below 44100.

Luke




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On Fri, Nov 18, 2016 at 04:42:12PM AEDT, Glenn / Lenny wrote:
> Hi,
> I am running Ubuntu 16.04 on an Intel NUC PPYH.
> I have been using a regular speaker on it, but I want to use an Anker pocket 
> Bluetooth Speaker.
> I got it found and configured from the Bluetooth manager, and in sound in 
> control center, I can test it fine.
> But I cannot get system sounds or Orca to speak from it, the audio only comes 
> through connected speaker.
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