Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-12 Thread Odysseus Flappington
Excuse me if I pipe in again, On 11/09/2008, Dylan McCall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-12 Thread John Baer
All, Shining a different light on the question I would say the purpose of the Art Team is to add value to Ubuntu. The method we use to accomplish this desire is artwork in the form of icons, banners, wallpapers, combined with computer code and other images. Some of this effort is bundled into

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-12 Thread Cory K.
John Baer wrote: All, Shining a different light on the question I would say the purpose of the Art Team is to add value to Ubuntu. The method we use to accomplish this desire is artwork in the form of icons, banners, wallpapers, combined with computer code and other images. Some of this

[ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
There really is no proper definition on this. So in the interest of defining that, here are my thoughts. What we are not: * A team that creates art for the default of Ubuntu. What we are/should be: * A team that creates artwork for community packages to be released in the repos

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Thorsten Wilms
On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:28 -0400, Cory K. wrote: * A team that creates art for the default of Ubuntu. What we are/should be: * A team that creates artwork for community packages to be released in the repos or on disk (not default) as disk size permits. I would not rule

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
Thorsten Wilms wrote: On Thu, 2008-09-11 at 11:28 -0400, Cory K. wrote: I would not rule out creating art for default, it's just not our decision and chances are not great. No. I think it *must* be ruled out. One *cannot* join this team and create with that being their motivation. It has been

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Conn
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:53 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What we have to eliminate is the preconception that this team creates default art. It's poison. -Cory K. Agreed, but you can make this preconception less of an issue if you simply rename this group to the Community Art Team.

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
Conn wrote: Agreed, but you can make this preconception less of an issue if you simply rename this group to the Community Art Team. That's an idea. One I would be for as long as there aren't an overwhelming amount of negatives. Pros/cons? -Cory K. -- ubuntu-art mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread SzerencseFia
Cory K. wrote: There really is no proper definition on this. So in the interest of defining that, here are my thoughts. What we are not: * A team that creates art for the default of Ubuntu. What we are/should be: * A team that creates artwork for community packages to be

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Odysseus Flappington
I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. This is myimmediate reaction when I see the term 'community' theme. i.e. * A team

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
This is also a team that doesn't help style projects that are created for Ubuntu (and linux). -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Kenneth Wimer
On Thursday 11 September 2008 19:07:52 Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. This is

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. Is this a problem for you or anyone? Is everyone

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread SzerencseFia
Cory K. wrote: Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. Is this a problem for you

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Who
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There really is no proper definition on this. So in the interest of defining that, here are my thoughts. What we are not: * A team that creates art for the default of Ubuntu. What we are/should be: * A team that

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
Who wrote: On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There really is no proper definition on this. So in the interest of defining that, here are my thoughts. What we are not: * A team that creates art for the default of Ubuntu. What we are/should be:

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Suraj James
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2008 19:49:24 +0100 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com Subject: Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team? On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 4:28 PM, Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There really is no proper definition on this. So in the interest of defining

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Dylan McCall
Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. Is this a problem for you or anyone? I do

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
Dylan McCall wrote: Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the default theme. Is this a problem

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/11 Cory K. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dylan McCall wrote: Odysseus Flappington wrote: I think just by slotting in the word 'community' into the definition, you're already implying that you aren't affiliated with Ubuntu officially, and have no decision making power in regards to the

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I wouldn't agree with that, since I don't agree with Cory's design initiative. It's better if it's a community art team. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
Well at the moment it is exactly how I described it, nothing more than voices on a mailing list, if that is what a community art team is, it isn't productive and is doomed to forever be a bunch of people chirping away in vain. Unless you or someone else provides an alternative structure to kick

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Why is there a need? Here's how it works - art team provides themes, Canonical chooses. That won't change. So what change would you like? Have a boss who tells each artist what to do or? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-art

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Why is there a need? Here's how it works - art team provides themes, Canonical chooses. That won't change. So what change would you like? Have a boss who tells each artist what to do or? -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
I see no clearly proposed solution except something, I don't know what, needs to be done!. By the way, mailing lists are how people cooperate on the Internet. Really. It's been done so for decades even. -- ubuntu-art mailing list ubuntu-art@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I see no clearly proposed solution except something, I don't know what, needs to be done!. By the way, mailing lists are how people cooperate on the Internet. Really. It's been done so for decades even. -- ubuntu-art mailing list

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Vadim Peretokin
Please do not straw man me, I subscribe to other mailing lists, non of them ubuntu and non are censored. I am not advocating that the mailing list should change, just that team should not be synonymous with the mailing list. Well, then, I resign from this conversation, because I see

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Michael Stephenson
2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not straw man me, I subscribe to other mailing lists, non of them ubuntu and non are censored. I am not advocating that the mailing list should change, just that team should not be synonymous with the mailing list. Well, then, I resign

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Cory K.
*If* I decide to make a run at any kinda leadership bid, I plan on getting together structure for what we generate. This has been part of what was missing. Along with the misconception that we are working on default art. There has been alot of good stuff that gets lost on our list and wiki. So, I

Re: [ubuntu-art] What is the art team?

2008-09-11 Thread Ken Vermette
On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Michael Stephenson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2008/9/12 Vadim Peretokin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Please do not straw man me, I subscribe to other mailing lists, non of them ubuntu and non are censored. I am not advocating that the mailing list should change, just