*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 204840 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/204840
** Tags removed: need-i386-retrace
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** Changed in: f-spot
Status: Unknown = New
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** Changed in: seahorse
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** Changed in: banshee
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** Changed in: evolution
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affects ubuntu/alsa-plugins
status invalid
affects ubuntu/alsa-lib
status inprogress
** Changed in: alsa-plugins (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Invalid
** Also affects: alsa-lib (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
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no, no locked root. Had that one on beta HH ;-) Iwas just updating, and
installed Nvidia driver (173 i think) after reboot it all went south.
On Mon, Oct 6, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Andreas Hasenack
[EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote:
Hello all,
did any of you by any chance had a locked root account? Like what
I guess if it does, there obviously would be many other bugreports
describing the issue for gnome-language-selector as it has a larger
userbase. Of course, as a Kubuntu user, I don't use the gnome
equivalent. :-) And as you can see, this patch is just against
QtLanguageSelector.py...
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[PATCH]
** Changed in: evolution
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** Changed in: fileroller
Status: Unknown = New
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I also tried to install virtualbox-2.0 from deb
http://download.virtualbox.org/virtualbox/debian hardy non-free so that
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Fixed in bzr. Will be uploaded shortly.
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Public bug reported:
I was updating from ubuntu 8.04 (ultimate edition 1.9) when i received
several faults, whene rebooting i couldn`t load the new kernel (my pc
keeps beeping and then it doesn`t load any further).
Happy thing about it is that the old kernel exists and i still can load
it.
Hope
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We apply a whopping 19 patches against Mono right now to make it usable.
Whilst a couple are minor things like autoreconfing, most are for pretty
major brokenness on important architectures (e.g. an arg checking bug
preventing compilation of xsp on AMD64). Each of those needs to be re-
audited.
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 257403 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257403
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 257403
[Intrepid] FFe request for Flash 10 RC2 (10.0.12.10)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278880
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This is now fixed in Debian, pending upload by Corsac (the fix has been
confirmed). Once uploaded to Debian, a merge will bring it to Uubuntu.
Since both Ubuntu and Debian have the same versions of orage, and the
upload to Debian is a bug-fix only change, I believe that is the correct
course of
Then I'll change the status to Confirmed.
** Changed in: bootchart (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
** Summary changed:
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I had the same stability issues when using x86_64 version of Hardy. This
problem is not related to vmware-player since I don't use that program and
still sees the same problem.
I did notice that we do have the same moderboard chipset and are both using a
quad core AMD Phenom CPU. I also have a
Uploading the lscpi.txt again. The last one was truncated...
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[hardy] random kernel Oops with 2.6.24-16-generic x86_64 started after last
hardy package update
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/221223
You
Public bug reported:
AFAIK openjdk-6-jre is a full replacement of sun-java6-jre and passes
Sun's Java Test Compatibility Kit. This means that this restricted extra
is not needed anymore since intrepid.
** Affects: ubuntu-restricted-extras (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: gtk2-engines-ubuntulooks
The tropic and blubuntu themes cannot be displayed correctly after
upgrading from 8.04.1 to Intrepid beta (all updates installed) because
ubuntulooks is no longer installed. But ubuntulooks cannot be installed
in synaptic without
Public bug reported:
I was updating from ubuntu 8.04 (ultimate edition 1.9) when i received
several faults, whene rebooting i couldn`t load the new kernel (my pc
keeps beeping and then it doesn`t load any further).
Happy thing about it is that the old kernel exists and i still can load
it.
Hope
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http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18285301/VarLogDistupgradeAptlog.gz
** Attachment added: VarLogDistupgradeApttermlog.gz
Just downloading the image.
System configuration attached as requested (from the running 2.6.22 kernel, of
course)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/279009
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 278419 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278419
** Changed in: tzdata (Debian)
Status: Unknown = Fix Released
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invalid dst change for Argentina on Oct 5, 2008
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278850
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Status: New = Fix Released
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Switching from Kwin to Compiz Fusion fixes the Probem for me.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278029
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** Changed in: hal (Debian)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/275825
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** Summary changed:
- [Intrepid Alpha 5] Black screen in TTY(virtual terminal)
+ [Intrepid Beta] Black screen in TTY(virtual terminal)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/271911
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** Changed in: facile (Debian)
Status: New = Fix Committed
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Indeed, there is a problem on Intrepid to install debug packages of
firefox. They should update the debug packages in order to be
installable. See:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+bug/259900
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Same problem here with firefox. Debug packages should be updated.
** Summary changed:
- firefox-3.0-dbgsym: Depends: firefox-3.0 (= 3.0~b5+nobinonly-0ubuntu3) but
3.0.1+build1+nobinonly-0ubuntu0.8.04.3 is to be installed
+ firefox-3.0-dbgsym: not possible to install on Intrepid (Broken
Is the Ubuntu Free Culture Showcase part of the example-content package
or separate? When/where will submissions open up for Jaunty Jackalope?
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/257098
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** Changed in: gtk-sharp2 (Debian)
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Works in 2.5.1 in intrepid.
** Changed in: pidgin (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Fix Committed
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Pidgin Notification Icon blinking incorrectly
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/208008
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Still not a duplicate of #140668 (see above). Please stop sending me
irrelevant emails, and please keep separate issues separate so they can
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Bluetooth Logitech Dinovo Keyboard/Mouse don't work
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/123920
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I haven't checked myself, but since 8.10 beta comes with Python 2.5.2
(package 2.5.2-1ubuntu1 at the time of writing), it's likely. I still
get amd64 Ubuntu users writing me about this on a regular basis: the fix
provided above always proved sufficient to them so far.
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adesklets broken on
Steps:
1- Use gnome-color-chooser or edit your .gtkrc-2.0 to change your panel
color. For instance, put the following lines in a file named .gtkrc-2.0
in your home directory:
style gnome-color-chooser-panel
{
bg[NORMAL] = #99
fg[NORMAL] = #ff
}
class *Panel* style
I fear they need a more detailed backtrace (they will notably appreciate
line number). So please try to do what I wrote.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278277
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It seems some change in the package updates between 06OCT2008 and
07OCT2008 triggered this problem again... it is random, so one cannot be
100% sure it ever went away, but I would say... 90% sure.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/227359
You
tiler
i found on another forum that ¨SUDO firefox¨ worked
it worked for me
but if it didnt help you im sorry but cant help you but good luck fixing iy
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bookmarks are gone, I can not add bookmarks or import bookmarks
backup, the toolbar does not work, the buttons
Reopening bug. Still occurs in Intrepid Ibex.
PS Sorry for the lag. I've missed those email :(
** Changed in: ubuntu
Status: Invalid = New
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Unable to change Name for .desktop files using X-Ubuntu-Gettext-Domain
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/159016
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Additionally, I'm closing the linux-source-2.6.20 task as this does not
qualify for a Stable Release Update. Please refer to
http://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates for more information. As
Markus noted above, if you can confirm this is still an issue with the
actively developed kernel
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 274639 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/274639
** Tags removed: need-duplicate-check
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With 90% certainty, the problem *was* gone, but came back with the
updates betwen 06OCT2008 and 07OCT2008. The set includes an update to
2.6.27-5-generic.
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regression: 2.6.27-4 does not always update screen after suspend
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/276830
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You can compile it without the KDE support, which basically means no
GUI at all.
./configure --with-kde-support=no
works in intrepid, and the binary can be used to generate reports. My
vote is still on this bug though, since the GUI is very nice.
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[Intrepid] TaskJuggler is broken. Missing
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: dolphin
Dolphin display russian folders and files names incorrectly if you
access them by fish (ssh) protocol. And there is no way to change
display encoding (like in krusader). In the attached file there is
example of such situation. Target directory
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/279504
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At least for me this is not true. I need access to a NPS-CMS, with
openjdk-6-jre this is not (yet) possible, for whatever reason (I don't
know, it simply does not work). sun-java6 is working fine, so there
still are minor differences. AFAIK sun-java6 is only an alternative to
openjdk-6, so at
ok guys, but the developers need a backtrace to find to origin of this
problem ;)
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/278691
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I experience the same bug with Intrepid beta1. Doing a telnet on port
80 to a slow site works. Doing a GET / is extremely slow, less than
100 Bytes per second. Because of this behaviour, any browser I used
(Firefox, Opera, Konqueror) give connection errors.
booting Intrepid beta 1 with a
Hi,
When I change in /etc/NetworkManager/nm-system-settings.conf:
from
[ifupdown]
managed=false
to
ifupdown]
managed=true
NM, after reboot show:
eth0 interface (this is O.K. - I have static config), and
ifupdown (eth0) interface ??? (not active, I can't delete this interface)
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[intrepid]
Ok ;)
So in such a case, simply set the report to invalid. 'commited' means a patch
was written and commited but the new versoin is not yet released.
** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Committed = Invalid
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Firefox crashes when opening and closing tabs with orkut and
I can confirm this bug in OpenOffice.Org Writer and can reproduce the
problem. It happens every time I open the program since a recent update.
It involves an OpenOffice.Org Writer window opening without a title bar,
but also occupying my full screen space, covering both gnome panels. For
me, the
Public bug reported:
At the 'Support' website linked from the default startpage for Firefox
http://start.ubuntu.com/8.10/ the section with the title 'Access Free
Documentation' links to http://help.ubuntu.com but does not use the
same icon as on the default Ubuntu desktop, the blue question mark
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
logout nach einem Fehlerbericht
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
logout nach einem Fehlerbericht
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
logout nach einem Fehlerbericht
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compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
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logout nach einem Fehlerbericht
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 145360
compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
logout nach einem Fehlerbericht
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 145360
compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 145360 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/145360
** This bug is no longer a duplicate of bug 201849
logout nach einem Fehlerbericht
** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 145360
compiz.real crashed with SIGSEGV
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compiz.real crashed with
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: netbeans
at least in libnb-apisupport1-java/ libnb-java2-java/
libnb-platform8-devel-java/ libnb-svnclientadapter-java/
libnb-ide9-java/ libnb-javaparser-java/ libnb-platform8-java/
the copyright file is
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: firefox
Firefox tabs displayed defected: some strange strips are depicted on the
bottom of the tabs heads
** Affects: firefox (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Tags: display tabs
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Incorrect display of tabs
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/279515
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Public bug reported:
Steps to reproduce :
1)edit an existing network manager openvpn connection
2)check or uncheck the box marked system setting
3)validate
4)reedit the same connexion
Expected result :
The system setting box is checked or unchecked according to 2)
Actual result :
The
Public bug reported:
I guess system setting checkbox means that this connexion should be made
before login. If that's the case (it doesn't work for me by the way, but
that's another bug), it should be something more meaningfull like :
Connect automatically before login
And should be converted
Public bug reported:
updates manager error
ProblemType: Package
Architecture: amd64
Dependencies:
libgcc1 1:4.3.2-1ubuntu9
gcc-4.3-base 4.3.2-1ubuntu9
findutils 4.4.0-2ubuntu3
libc6 2.8~20080505-0ubuntu7
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 8.10
ErrorMessage: échec de « fork »: Cannot allocate memory
** Attachment added: DpkgTerminalLog.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18285639/DpkgTerminalLog.txt
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/279511
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I'm using the Ubuntu Intrepid Ibex BETA . It's a clean install of the
system. The only thing I install is my wireless. So I do the following
steps:
1) activiation of wireless hardware on acer aspire 5024WLMi
sudo echo 1 /sys/devices/platform/acer-wmi/wireless
create the
Public bug reported:
Binary package hint: evolution
When keep signature above the original message on replying is selected
in the preferences, the signature will be inserted above the message you
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** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18285616/Dependencies.txt
** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18285617/ProcMaps.txt
** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/18285618/ProcStatus.txt
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Version of Dolphin:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ apt-cache policy dolphin
dolphin: Installed: 4:4.1.2-0ubuntu1
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Incorrect encoding in folders accessed by fish protocol
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/279504
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Hmmm, i'm not sure about this.
I definetly don't want to change this for intrepid.
** Changed in: ubuntu-restricted-extras (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low
** Changed in: ubuntu-restricted-extras (Ubuntu Intrepid)
Status: New = Won't Fix
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sun-java6 should be dropped from
Thanks for your report.
The error is:
Uitpakken van vervangende libnss3-1d ...
dpkg: fout bij afhandelen van
/var/cache/apt/archives/libnss3-1d_3.12.0.3-0ubuntu5_amd64.deb (--unpack):
beschadigd bestandssysteem tarbestand - beschadigd pakketarchief
Maybe an error occurs while downloading the
By the way, some other things use wrong colors. For instance, nm-applet
menus in the notification area are OK, but rhythmbox right-click menu in
that area has panel colors instead of menu colors. The dialog to create
a new personalized launcher has panel colors too. I know this is not
tha same
I also can't send file from PDA to Laptop using BT. It worked in Hardy
Heron.
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ strace -o obexftp.trace obexftp -v -b 00:17:E3:81:B3:96 -p
./aaa.jpg
Browsing 00:17:E3:81:B3:96 ...
Connecting...failed: connect
Still trying to connect
Connecting...failed: connect
Still trying to
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