[Bug 1313446] Re: window disappears on toggle shade

2016-02-29 Thread Derek Martin
Please raise the importance of this bug. Like Michael Fischer in update #27, I can confirm another case of data loss resulting from this bug. I accidentally (because at this point, I'm familiar with the bug) shaded my gvim window, and when I used alt-tab to un-minimize it, my entire X session

[Bug 1468832] [NEW] lightdm sources .profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
Public bug reported: It is a bug for any display manager to read .profile--you guys are absolutely killing me with this. The user's .profile is to be read by the shell, on interactive shell (i.e. terminal) logins ONLY. The man page for bash explains this in detail; it's also discussed in the

[Bug 1468832] Re: lightdm sources .profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
See also Bug #1468834. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468832 Title: lightdm sources .profile To manage notifications about this bug go to:

[Bug 1468834] [NEW] lightdm does not source .xsession

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
Public bug reported: There is a decades-old standard protocol for starting up a user's X session, which requires display managers to source the user's ~/.xsession file. lightdm fails to do this. See also Bug #1468832. ** Affects: lightdm (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New

[Bug 794315] Re: lightdm forgets to source /etc/profile and ~/.profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
Sigh. Display managers should NEVER source .profile at all... that file is exclusively for interactive shells, as is explicitly stated in all of the man pages of every shell ever. I just opened Bug #1468832 about this, where I also explained how to properly accomplish what people want here. --

[Bug 794315] Re: lightdm forgets to source /etc/profile and ~/.profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
See also Bug #1468834. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/794315 Title: lightdm forgets to source /etc/profile and ~/.profile To manage notifications about this bug go to:

[Bug 1468832] Re: lightdm sources .profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
Also slight correction: BASH does NOT automatically source .bashrc on login shells; so .profile would need to source the environment file as well. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468832

[Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
Try: man xsession The X window system has been reading this file since forever. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1468834 Title: lightdm does not source .xsession To manage

[Bug 1468832] Re: lightdm sources .profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
@Myself: in my description I repeatedly used interactive shell when I meant login shell instead. The distinction is important, (and thus the shell makes the distinction)--the user's .profile is only sourced in the latter case. On all other interactive shells it sources .bashrc instead. This is

[Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
From the debian manual: any user who defines ~/.xsession or ~/.Xsession is able to customize the action of /etc/X11/Xsession by completely overriding the system code. It does (or did) that by executing the script via exec... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
I don't follow the reason for closing this... It seems like maybe you're thinking I said this bug is all wrong, but it's not. The point is that instead of *sourcing* $HOME/.xsession, the Xsession system script should *exec* it if it exists, completely bypassing the rest of the system Xsession

[Bug 1468832] Re: lightdm sources .profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
In point of fact .xsession is supposed to be an executable shell script with a shebang line, it's not supposed to be sourced at all, or at least historically that has always been the case. Theoretically the .xsession file could be a C shell script so as long as it is executed instead of sourced,

[Bug 1468832] Re: lightdm sources .profile

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
Which is a good point actually... what if the user is a C shell user? How does sourcing .profile help them? The classic way of setting this up is clearly far superior. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1468834] Re: lightdm does not source .xsession

2015-06-25 Thread Derek Martin
It may well have, but it's a change that's bad. For what it's worth, the Debian manuals still document this: https://www.debian.org/doc/manuals/debian- reference/ch07.en.html#_customizing_the_x_session_classic_method I've been a member of the Linux community for 20 years--Take comfort in the

[Bug 1309942] Re: Window Controls not functioning.

2014-09-05 Thread Derek Martin
I think this bug (and1310056, dup of this bug) should not be closed as wont-fix, it should be reopened and reassigned to whatever software component (Unity, presumably) is making this behavior change impossible. It's absolutely shameful that the Linux desktop has been consistently and brutally

[Bug 1310056] Re: unity-tweak-tool cant move window buttons to the right in 14.04

2014-05-31 Thread Derek Martin
This affects me also. I upgraded to 14.04 from 13.10, and if it helps the theme I use is the default (Ambiance). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1310056 Title: unity-tweak-tool cant

[Bug 389322] Re: Yahoo server authentication changed: Pidgin =2.5.6 will not connect to Yahoo! servers.

2009-07-06 Thread Derek Martin
What is the status of this in Hardy (8.04 LTS)? -- Yahoo server authentication changed: Pidgin =2.5.6 will not connect to Yahoo! servers. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389322 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --