[Bug 746914] Re: MSI 785GT with Realtek RTL8111/8168B locks up only with heavy gigabit traffic -and- heavy PCI load (10.10 at least)

2011-07-18 Thread Grondr
I have never been comfortable using apport because I've never found a way to be 100% sure I can see exactly what it submits before it sends it, so it's a privacy problem. If a developer actually wants to work on this and has difficulties reproducing it, I would be happy to share configuration

[Bug 671065] Re: deliver broken because dovecot.conf uses !include_try

2011-07-08 Thread Grondr
This is problematic because it lays a trap. Just because the special package sets up mailbox_command to do this doesn't mean the bug won't screw someone who thinks that deliver will obey inclusions. It's -especially- bad if someone tries to use virtual domains and hence removes that

[Bug 671065] Re: deliver broken because dovecot.conf uses !include_try

2011-07-08 Thread Grondr
This is problematic because it lays a trap. Just because the special package sets up mailbox_command to do this doesn't mean the bug won't screw someone who thinks that deliver will obey inclusions. It's -especially- bad if someone tries to use virtual domains and hence removes that

[Bug 661294] Re: System lock-up when receiving large files (big data amount) from NFS server

2011-04-29 Thread Grondr
...and I'd like to point out that I've done a ton of NFS (v3 only, since I'm talking to hosts running Hoary---yes, really) with the Intel NIC and had no problems whatsoever. To everyone who is blaming NFS here, TRY NETCAT. And DO NOT try scp or ssh because they're doing crypto which will slow

[Bug 756920] [NEW] Natty manual-partitioner is dangerously forgetful

2011-04-10 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: live-installer Using the daily build of 4/8 (AMD64 desktop) and trying to install to a disk that was NOT /dev/sda, I discovered that the manual partitioner kept RESETTING the device on which to install the bootloader to /dev/sda every single time I added

[Bug 731340] Re: LUKS is extremely slow on amd64 builds but not on i386

2011-04-10 Thread Grondr
I just installed Natty and brought it up-to-date as of about 4/8; this is using kernel 2.6.38-8-generic. Two identical 2TB 4K-sector disks show about a 2x slowdown in LUKS using XTS and 512-bit keys: doing time find usr -ls | wc -l reported about 37 seconds on the ext4 disk, and 1m4s on the

[Bug 746914] Re: MSI 785GT with Realtek RTL8111/8168B locks up only with heavy gigabit traffic -and- heavy PCI load (10.10 at least)

2011-04-10 Thread Grondr
To follow up: using the Intel PCIe NIC instantly solved all my problems. No more lockups under combined network and PCI load. I won't be going back to Realtek NICs ever. (If someone can point to a specific purported bugfix that's in some kernel I can simply download and install without

[Bug 747707] Re: kswapd0 freaks out if rsync runs on an USB disk

2011-04-10 Thread Grondr
To follow up: Trying 2.6.38-8 (installed the beta and let it update to whatever was current as of 4/9) fixed the problem. kswapd0 no longer hogs CPU, and unlike the OP's report of 4/5, I don't see kworker chewing up time and I see no freezes or other issues. For me, it Just Works. Note that my

[Bug 731340] Re: LUKS is extremely slow on amd64 builds but not on i386

2011-04-05 Thread Grondr
It's not just AMD64, or this is two different bugs---I think it's actually 10.10 in both AMD64 and i386. I just installed 10.10 on a WD 500GB IDE disk inside a -non- encrypted LVM using the alternate installer last week. I spent some time last night benchmarking I/O using (a) a 2TB SATA

[Bug 747707] Re: kswapd0 freaks out if rsync runs on an USB disk

2011-04-05 Thread Grondr
It's not just USB access---it's anything that hits a filesystem hard. I can confirm that 2.6.38-7-generic on AMD64 freaks out exactly the same way: kswapd0 goes to 100% if driven by 'nc -l 1234 | tar xvfp -' to ext4 (no crypto, no LVM, no RAID, just an ordinary partition) on an ordinary SATA

[Bug 747707] Re: kswapd0 freaks out if rsync runs on an USB disk

2011-04-05 Thread Grondr
Oh yuck, sorry for the horrible formatting of the previous; I usually yank in text from Emacs, but this time I typed it directly into the box. Apparently it's hard-wrapped at 80 columns, but the box is about double that width. Yet another bug in Launchpad, but I've learned that reporting those

[Bug 731340] Re: LUKS is extremely slow on amd64 builds but not on i386

2011-04-05 Thread Grondr
** Description changed: TL;DR: Disk I/O with LUKS is extremely slow on amd64 builds, however, it is much faster on i386 builds. This has been verified by testing on multiple hardware platforms and with multiple versions of Ubuntu. The possible cause of the slowness has been shown to

[Bug 661294] Re: System lock-up when receiving large files (big data amount) from NFS server

2011-04-05 Thread Grondr
I just happened to trip over this report, and at least one of the lcpci entries shows a Realtek NIC, which makes me suspicious in light of the report I just filed at bug #746914. You might want to take a look at that in case it seems relevant and/or try the nc | tar pipelines I was using (I

[Bug 746914] [NEW] MSI 785GT with Realtek RTL8111/8168B locks up only with heavy gigabit traffic -and- heavy PCI load (10.10 at least)

2011-03-31 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: I'm submitting this bug report to encourage driver developers to try this particular use case because a network-only test would not uncover the bug. I know (now, alas :) that the Realtek NIC is the subject of many prior bug reports, but someone who thinks those are fixed in

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2011-03-31 Thread Grondr
I'm the original reporter of this bug thread. I have to say, I'm completely dissatisfied so far. Every proposal has been to effectively kick this downrange and make it someone else's problem, and I'm -particularly- unhappy that this is viewed as a window manager issue! It means the (a) behavior

[Bug 590925] Re: broken version of netcat installed by default

2010-06-11 Thread Grondr
Aha! In that case, I agree with everything you've said. :) (Yes, I agree that it's pointlessly incompatible, but I thought someone must have had a good reason for it---e.g., I'd simply assumed there was -some- point that I was missing, and that Ubuntu had gone along. I also agree that -having-

[Bug 590925] Re: broken version of netcat installed by default

2010-06-10 Thread Grondr
Wait, what? Are you saying that nc -should- accept -p with -l? In other words, that nc -l -p 1234 is the same thing as nc -l 1234 in OpenBSD nc? If so, I very much agree with that sentiment! But that wasn't what the manpage seemed to indicate -at all-. It goes out of its way, in several

[Bug 590925] Re: broken version of netcat installed by default

2010-06-09 Thread Grondr
I'll try one more time to make the point I'm trying to make, and then I'll give up until someone who seems to understand it chimes in. (And by the way, calling a usability complaint flamebait isn't exactly setting the right tone yourself.) 100% of my usage of nc is in building tunnels. 50% of

[Bug 590925] [NEW] broken version of netcat installed by default

2010-06-07 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: netcat-openbsd In a recent Lucid installation, I just got screwed by the substitution of the netcat that's been around for decades with the so-called better OpenBSD version. There are a LOT of problems here: (a) The version you're shipping does not

[Bug 590925] Re: broken version of netcat installed by default

2010-06-07 Thread Grondr
I believe I was quite clear: (a) nc -l -p 1234 spits out a usage message. The traditional version actually listens on port 1234. Having finally found nc's manpage, I see that the OpenBSD version uses completely incompatible arguments, hence breaking scripts that expect the decades-old

[Bug 590300] [NEW] RIdiculously misleading error message from passwd

2010-06-05 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: In Ubuntu server 10.04 LTS, I typed passwd to change my password and accidentally typed the new password in response to the prompt for the current password. Instead of saying incorrect password or something equally reasonable, which would have caused me to smack my forehead

[Bug 565535] Re: Kernel 2.6.32-21-generic freezes Dell Inspiration 1150 on boot; 2.6.32-20 is fine

2010-04-28 Thread Grondr
I'm dubious that the testing you want me to do is either useful or feasible: (a) The current ISO image is only 2 days later than when I filed this bug report, and the machine was absolutely up-to-date on available package via update-manager at that time. Does the current CD image really

[Bug 565535] Re: Kernel 2.6.32-21-generic freezes Dell Inspiration 1150 on boot; 2.6.32-20 is fine

2010-04-18 Thread Grondr
I just noticed, in case it isn't completely obvious to anyone reading this report, that I misreported the machine model. it's a Dell Inspiron 1150, not a Dell Inspiration. *sigh* -- Kernel 2.6.32-21-generic freezes Dell Inspiration 1150 on boot; 2.6.32-20 is fine

[Bug 565535] [NEW] Kernel 2.6.32-21-generic freezes Dell Inspiration 1150 on boot; 2.6.32-20 is fine

2010-04-17 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: On a Dell Inspiration 1150 running Lucid, I took the update of 4/16/10 and discovered that the machine froze reproduceably on boot with kernel 2.6.32-21. Only dropping back to the kernel just before the update (kernel 2.6.32-20) enabled the machine to boot. The machine is

[Bug 505367] [NEW] Can't sudo in Karmic image made via usb-creator (plus many other problems)

2010-01-09 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: usb-creator usb-creator needs some serious QA. Here's a laundry list of bugs that have made it almost unusable for me. (I was running it under an up-to- date Karmic amd64 on a desktop, trying to create an i386 image for a ThinkPad whose CDROM drive is

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2010-01-08 Thread Grondr
Yes, I agree re part 3---safer to leave it in as long as metacity claims responsibility. (But it has no business claiming responsibility---leave that to PulseAudio.) We haven't heard yet about getting this bug punted to the metacity folks, so it may be time take more direct action in letting

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2010-01-02 Thread Grondr
Confirmed---your patch fixes the issue. Now I can migrate to Karmic without going mad. (I'll make a post showing all the extant bugs what fixes them, since this is but one part of all the bell lossage we've discovered, but this is certainly the most-annoying one and the one that got us

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2010-01-02 Thread Grondr
Oh btw, someone else will to have to verify if the patch is well-formed; I applied it by hand, since I was poking around to verify each piece. -- System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/486154 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2010-01-02 Thread Grondr
Okay, for anyone who's trying to restore the pre-Karmic behavior of beeping, here's what to do. It will give you old-style motherboard beeps when you hit rubout at an empty shell prompt in gnome-terminal or at an empty password prompt during gdm login; it will make xkbbell work; all rate-limiting

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-27 Thread Grondr
I can't quite reproduce your it-must-be-metacity results, because when -I- try compiz, I just lose X bells completely. BUT---metacity is -definitely- doing something wacky. Read on. Starting from metacity, xkbbell (and rubout at an empty shell prompt) work in the same not-really-working manner

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-22 Thread Grondr
Oy. I know this is probably going to be an unpopular discovery, but I am no longer sure this is necessarily a metacity bug. The problem is, then, whose bug -is- it? I just spent a couple hours hacking around in the metacity source code doing things like commenting out XkbSelectEvents and

[Bug 466281] Re: [ubuntu karmic] Synaptic's Quick Search is flawed

2009-12-22 Thread Grondr
I just got hit with exactly the same bug. Fresh install from the Karmic 9.10 amd64 LiveCD and up-to-date as of today. Various other packages installed over the last few days. Just noticed that typing myth into Quick Search shows only a few hits, but adding a b to the end of the string doubles

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-22 Thread Grondr
I'm beginning to wonder if this might be a gtk issue. Or gdm. Or gdk. Does anyone know how to tell which application might have called XkbSelectEvents or XkbChangeEnabledControls? Can I ask X somehow? For the moment, I'm reduced to, e.g., doing apt-get --dry-run build-dep gdm, noting which

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-22 Thread Grondr
Aha! You've done -exactly- the debugging I was thinking of asking you to do... :) [More, even, since I didn't realize you could easily try out 9.04; I don't have any 9.04 systems and didn't really want to install one just for testing, though i guess I could. I'd assumed this was broken before

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-22 Thread Grondr
Yes, I had the same behavior with killall metacity (which I was using because I was recompiling it with various things commented out). I'll run some compiz tests and make sure I can reproduce your results. I think there -is- some negotiation going on, and I'm not sure what happens if a

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-15 Thread Grondr
I've rerun all my tests. I've attached a table and legends for it, since no doubt it would otherwise be smashed by the automatic reformatting done by launchpad (is there any way to turn that off?). Note that EVERYTHING works fine in Hoary, Dapper, and Breezy. I did not test 9.04. But 9.10

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-14 Thread Grondr
Robert: Re the rmmod/modprobe fandango I'm doing: I've done a bunch of testing (my next post will detail it), but I'm pretty sure what's going on with rmmod/modprobe is simply a kernel regression---if pcspkr is loaded too early, it doesn't work correctly. So if it's blacklisted, and then loaded

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-11 Thread Grondr
Robert: Thanks for the summary. I'm going to prepare a little table for the studio audience to try to make things clearer, especially since you correctly pointed out in comment #27 that there's ambiguity over whether I'm talking about bell.ogg or the squarewave beep coming out of line-out

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-10 Thread Grondr
Daniel: If this bug is truly independent of PulseAudio, then why does renaming /usr/share/sounds/ubuntu/stereo/bell.ogg change the behavior? If your argument is that libcanberra is looking at that file, then why is it necessary to remove a -PA- cache file to fix the bell after renaming the file

[Bug 493127] Re: After updates, sound disappeared

2009-12-10 Thread Grondr
The OP just directed my attention to this bug, which -might- be a duplicate of bug #486154; interested parties might want to take a look at it. (Robert Schroll and I have spent the last three weeks characterizing the multiple problems with the Karmic system bell in that report; I think there are

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-10 Thread Grondr
Thanks! I just put a pointer in your bug back to here, so hopefully people will see both and figure out if we're talking about the same thing. -- System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/486154 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-10 Thread Grondr
[IG: I don't understand your comments re the bell working in metacity -instead of- compiz. If that's true, you're talking about something different than we are. You should also strive to be more precise in your description. For example, when you say system bell, I'm not sure if you're talking

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-07 Thread Grondr
Robert: I think actually we had exactly the same problem, and your workaround works for me. I'll explain, 'cause it'll help in debugging this for real. First off, I've now gotten to a state where my system bell is coming out of line-out. It wasn't before. I'm reasonably sure that this was

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-01 Thread Grondr
I now think that Gnome, Metacity, or Pulseaudio are implicated. The hardware and X itself are probably not. Details: I think I've managed to pry this bug quite a bit farther open, but it's not quite there yet. In particular, I -can- get the system bell to work under bare X as any user. And I

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-01 Thread Grondr
Robert: It looks like the reason module-x11-bell isn't loaded by default is because it's commented out in /etc/pulse/default.pa (along with the load-sample mentioning it near the top of that file). Presumably, uncommenting and restarting pulse (or just rebooting) would load it. But of course,

[Bug 489855] Re: System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-12-01 Thread Grondr
[If you're happy with the data I attached, can someone please mark this as something other than Incomplete so it won't vanish? Thanks.] I now think that this bug might not implicate X, or it might be a bad interaction where X's bell event is being mishandled by gnome/metacity/pulseaudio. Please

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-12-01 Thread Grondr
Oh, right, so some quick research indicates the .tdb files in ~/.pulse are Trivial Database Files. Installing the tdbtools package (bug #557819 already complains about their total lack of documentation) lets you run tdbtool on 'em and use commands like keys and dump, although the values of the

[Bug 489855] Re: System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-11-29 Thread Grondr
Sure thing. I'm attaching two slightly-different X logs (I don't know why the older one is talking about evdev but the newer one isn't). They're both from the amd64 LiveCD. I'd purged PulseAudio at some point and had been restarting X after various changes to see if anything happened; I don't

[Bug 489855] Re: System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-11-29 Thread Grondr
** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36234483/Xorg.0.log -- System bell broken under X in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/489855 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing

[Bug 489855] Re: System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-11-29 Thread Grondr
** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log.old http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36234423/Xorg.0.log.old -- System bell broken under X in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/489855 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 489855] Re: System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-11-29 Thread Grondr
** Attachment added: lspci http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36234514/lspci -- System bell broken under X in Karmic https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/489855 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 489855] Re: System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-11-29 Thread Grondr
Just for yucks, here's the Xorg.log from the same LiveCD, freshly booted. (System bell doesn't work there, either, of course.) ** Attachment added: Xorg.0.log.virgin http://launchpadlibrarian.net/36243854/Xorg.0.log.virgin -- System bell broken under X in Karmic

[Bug 489855] [NEW] System bell broken under X in Karmic

2009-11-28 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: Binary package hint: xorg As far as I can determine, the system bell (e.g., built-in motherboard beeper) is completely broken in Karmic under X. Non-X beeping does work after extensive workarounds; please see bug #486154 for my hardware software versions, what I did to

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-11-27 Thread Grondr
Still no joy. I just tried booting the Karmic LiveCD---hence running in 32-bit mode. I repeated all of the steps listed above, and the behavior is unchanged. The beep program continues to work (assuming, of course, that you've modprobed pcspkr, which is the first thing I did while reproducing all

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-11-27 Thread Grondr
Ah, and my comment above about reboot---I just tried shutdown -r 3 from the LiveCD, and -that- beeped the speaker! echo foo | wall also beeps. I rebooted the normal 64-bit system and noticed that echo foo | wall didn't beep the system bell. (Although I was also ssh'ed in from elsewhere and

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-11-27 Thread Grondr
Btw, these tests under X that I'm doing---I'm doing them typing directly on the machine's actual keyboard and using its actual display. Don't get confused by my comments about ssh'ing in from elsewhere---I'm making sure to run the tests directly on the machine's actual I/O hardware so I can't get

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-11-25 Thread Grondr
Btw, I just verified that the missing system bell is -not- coming out of either the line-out or the center-out jacks on my motherboard; I hooked up speakers and verified that both jacks give output when I play a random audio file through mplayer, but the missing system bell isn't there. Oddly

[Bug 486154] Re: System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-11-21 Thread Grondr
Yes, I'd seen bug #77010 very early on when trying to debug this, and I also tried the workaround in bug #398161 (which is to rmmod and then modprobe the module again), and the workaround does not work for me. (I can easily see that rmmod made the module vanish and that modprobe puts it back,

[Bug 486154] [NEW] System beep broken in Karmic despite heroic efforts to fix it

2009-11-20 Thread Grondr
Public bug reported: In a fully up-to-date AMD64 Karmic on an MSI MS-7511 aka a K9N2G Neo-FD motherboard (2.6.31-14-generic #48-Ubuntu SMP Fri Oct 16 14:05:01 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux): I -know- my hardware works, but I cannot get the motherboard-based system beep to work at all. I also know