[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-26 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~xubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntustudio-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-26 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-gnome-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu-gnome.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~kubuntu-dev/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu-active.trusty ** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/edubuntu.trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-26 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
An issue with an undesired font being selected has been reported at bug #1227034. I would recommend everyone with an interest in the topic to get involved in that bug. Closing this bug report now. ** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Status: In Progress = Fix Released -- You received this bug

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-21 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Thanks for the explanation, Jack. Then I suppose that fonts-droid is already shipped in Ubuntu Kylin just like in standard Ubuntu. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title:

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-20 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/lubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/xubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/kubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntustudio.trusty- lp1173571 ** Branch

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
fonts-droid has been included in the Ubuntu seed for a few months now, and I have proposed that flavor distros change their seeds in the same way. @Aron: I couldn't find any ubuntukylin.trusty branch in ubuntu-seeds. Where did you hide it? ;-) -- You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-02-20 Thread Jack Yu
@gunnarhj, Ubuntu Kylin doesn't have seed, we only use default-settings package to customize. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-22 Thread Abel Cheung
See that. Probably right now it's the best arrangement for Hong Kong users as well given currently (limited) resource. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-21 Thread Abel Cheung
In reply to comment 41: The 2 reports are not entirely related. But I hope this report is only limited to the scope of 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. The case for Hong Kong is more serious, in that *none* of the fonts described above have enough coverage of Hong Kong Supplementary Character Set

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-21 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Actually, so far this bug has resulted in the changes stated in comment #21, #24 and #26, so Droid Sans Fallback is indeed used in zh-hk already. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/language- selector/trusty/view/head:/fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf It's also

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-20 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Bug #1270647 is possibly related. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf To manage

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-19 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
Yes, it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family if we want to have a better looking for Western characters. In short, my point is to use those fonts in better compliance with Taiwan's standard instead of those are not. I am not willing to have better

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-19 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
OK, I will try to figure out which configuration play a big role to list AR PL UMing as the first one in serif style when I am free, and then file another bug report for that issue. It might around Chinese new year though. :P -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-19 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
There is another way to fix this problem. That is make another Droid Sans Taiwanese font just like the way that Droid Sans Japanese font does. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-18 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
@fourdolars: I agree with the part helping the development of CJKUnifonts. However, it is no sense to use AR PL UMing for all styles as AR PL UMing is a serif style font and can only be used in serif part. BTW, the configuration is using AR PL UMing now. So the issue here is which font we

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-18 Thread Aron Xu
Just FYI, one of the reasons why WQY Microhei is not maintained is that, at some time a Droid Sans Fallback update released by Google contains many more characters than in Microhei, while the project's initial goal was to expand the original Droid Sans to get better coverage. It's currently

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-18 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
I suggest to use the fonts as the following order. Ubuntu, AR PL, cwTeX, MOE, and then CNS11643. Pro: Better looking in English and better following of Taiwan standard. Con: The programs that don't have font-config suppprt will be not able to see Chinese characters. If we find the programs don't

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-18 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
Your suggestion will create another issue on typography that ubuntu font is sans-serif style while AR PL UMing and CNS11643 are serif style. Plus, AR PL UMing covers more characters than cwTeX and MOE, there is low probability fallbacking to them. And we have already been using AR PL UMing for

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-18 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
How about to find another English font to replace Ubuntu font in serif style? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-18 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
I don't actually get what you mean here. But I guess that you are talking about it is better to use Western serif font listed before AR PL UMing for serif font family. 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf does not affect the result about serif font family strongly. It is always using AR PL UMing first

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-17 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
@zerng07: I think CJKUnifonts does want to follow Taiwan's standard (CNS11643), China's standard (GB18030), and other countries' standard also. However this project seema to stop the development since 2010 (http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software/CJKUnifonts/). CJKUnifonts is a truely open

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-17 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
BTW, there are other fonts: fonts-cwtex-* following Taiwan standard and licensed by GPL-2+. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-15 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
@fourdollars Actually, CJKUnifonts (AR PL UMing and AR PL UKai) do not follow Taiwan standard too. That's because they both were composed of Traditional style and Simplified style fonts before. AR PL UMing is compoesed of 文鼎細上海宋繁 and 文鼎報宋簡 while AR PL UKai is composed of 文鼎中楷繁 and 文鼎中楷簡. For

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-14 Thread Shih-Yuan Lee
The fonts that follow Taiwan standard are fonts-arphic-uming, fonts-arphic-ukai, fonts-moe-standard-kai, fonts-moe-standard-song fonts-cns11643-kai and fonts-cns11643-sung. I think we should avoid using other fonts in 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf. For more information, please see the

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2014-01-14 Thread Aron Xu
But Droid Sans can give way better screen experience than the alternatives you pointed above. And I believe it's more reasonable to default to those fonts in printing materials, i.e. in libreoffice. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-27 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
fonts-droid will now be seeded instead of ttf-wqy-microhei in the Ubuntu trusty ISOs. http://bazaar.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-core-dev/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty/revision/2189 Keeping the Ubuntu Seeds task open, since we should make this change for other distros if it proves to be well received in

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-14 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
** Also affects: ubuntu-seeds Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-14 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu-seeds/ubuntu.trusty-lp1173571 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-14 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Status: New = In Progress ** Changed in: ubuntu-seeds Assignee: (unassigned) = Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-07 Thread Iain Lane
ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed? ttf-wqy-microhei (from ttf-wqy-microhei) is seeded in: edubuntu: dvd kubuntu-active: daily-live kubuntu: daily-live lubuntu: daily, daily-live, daily-preinstalled ubuntu-gnome: daily-live ubuntu: daily-live ubuntukylin:

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-07 Thread Iain Lane
fonts-android is not in main. laney@raleigh rmadison -S -s trusty fonts-android fonts-android |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | source fonts-droid |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | all fonts-roboto |1:4.3-1 | trusty/universe | all -- You received this bug notification because you are a member

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-branches/ubuntu/trusty/ttf-wqy-microhei /trusty-proposed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-07 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package ttf-wqy-microhei - 0.2.0-beta-1.1ubuntu4 --- ttf-wqy-microhei (0.2.0-beta-1.1ubuntu4) trusty; urgency=low * debian/65-ttf-wqy-microhei.conf: Outdated DejaVu bindings removed (LP: #1173571). -- Gunnar Hjalmarsson gunna...@ubuntu.com Wed, 06

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-07 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Right, Iain, I was wrong when I said in comment #20 that fonts-android is already in main, and have now filed a MIR application as bug #1249132. On 2013-11-07 12:12, Iain Lane wrote: ttf-wqy-microhei is seeded too. Should this be changed? Seeding fonts-droid instead of ttf-wqy-microhei is

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-06 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/trusty/ttf-wqy-microhei/lp-1173571 ** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/language-selector -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-06 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
The fonts-droid binary is now included in the fonts-android source package, which is already in main, so no MIR application is needed. I have uploaded changes to language-selector, which make fonts-droid the preferred font for both traditional and simplified Chinese. We are early in the 14.04

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-11-06 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package language-selector - 0.118 --- language-selector (0.118) trusty; urgency=low * data/pkg_depends: ttf-wqy-zenhei replaced with fonts-droid for Chinese (LP: #1173571). * fontconfig/69-language-selector-zh-hk.conf, -zh-cn.conf, -zh-sg.conf:

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-09-13 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
Could we start the MIP for fonts-droid these days to finish this issue? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-07-04 Thread Alvin
Gunnar Hjalmarsson (gunnarhj) wrote on 2013-05-29: Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese? I think it is much more readible and pretty for WQY Micro Hei than WQY Zen Hei in simplified Chinese reader's

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-06-18 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
I think that the changes you made are right. I STRONGLY recommend fonts-droid instead of wqy-microhei because WenQuanYi project is not having any major progress or new releases in last three years. Plus, wqy-microhei fail to display Korean characters. It is not solved for some years since the day

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-06-17 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Thanks for the tests and analyses! I have prepared a language-selector branch and a ttf-wqy-microhei branch with the changes you propose. Please check them out carefully to help prevent misunderstandings. There is a but, though. ttf-wqy-microhei is already in the main pocket of the Ubuntu

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-06-17 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/saucy/language-selector/fonts- droid ** Branch linked: lp:~gunnarhj/ubuntu/saucy/ttf-wqy-microhei/fonts-droid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-06-15 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
Hi, could anyone who could fix or improve the configurations review my proposal? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-06-02 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
After my testing, the good news is that insatalling fonts-droid will provide better visual appearence and more readible than WQY zen-hei in Chinese charaters. However, 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf has a weird UNACCEPTABLE side effect. It matches DejaVu Serif for sans-serif and monospace

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-06-02 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
** Patch removed: this is the patch to make WenQuanYi Micro Hei back to zh-tw configuration https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/language-selector/+bug/1173571/+attachment/3656094/+files/add-microhei-back.patch -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-05-30 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Looking forward to the result of that test. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1173571 Title: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh- tw.conf To manage

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-05-29 Thread Gunnar Hjalmarsson
Thanks for your efforts on this matter, Cheng-Chia Tseng. I have subscribed Ding Zhou to this bug report, since he was consulted by Iain Lane about the Raring changes. On 2013-05-26 11:34, Cheng-Chia Tseng wrote: 1. make Droid Sans Fallback as the first Chinese character providing font listed

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-05-29 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
I will check that if the -zh-tw.conf provided in raring (which put Droid Sans Fallback into first one) works fine or not if we install Droid Sans Fallback recently. Would it possibly make sense to make those changes for traditional Chinese, while keeping WenQuanYi Zen Hei for simplified Chinese?

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-05-26 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
Another way to improve the unreadible Chinese characters is to install Droid Sans Fallback and use it instead of WenQuanYi Zen Hei. The reason to use Droid Sans Fallback instead of WenQaun Yi Micro Hei is that WenQuanYi almostly stopped the development progress for about three years while Droid

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-05-25 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
** Summary changed: - please add wenquanyi micro hei settings back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf + please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1173571] Re: please change wenquanyi micro hei back with 69-language-selector-zh-tw.conf

2013-05-25 Thread Cheng-Chia Tseng
I think that my title is not well described and does not fit my idea well, so I change that. Maybe that mislead readers to think that I was asking to add those outdated settings about Micro Hei back in language-selector confs, but that's not. To be clear, I just want to make Micro Hei back as the