Same problem as many people here...
The update popup is an inelegant solution. Like blimblam I have wasted
several hours trying to bring back the old behaviour from Xubuntu 12.04
LTS, of an icon in the notification area.
There are must be at least configurable option to keep notification area
Popup window behavior is weird. There are must be at least configurable
option to keep notification area icon.
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update-notifier does not
Removing basic features that users have gotten used too and rely on, is
probably the best way of
driving them to other distributions.
The update popup window drives me personally crazy, because it such an
inelegant solution. I have now wasted several hours trying to bring back
the old
I want to add that I have Attention Deficit Disorder, and this
change—that “everybody wants auto-launch”—makes the system much more
inaccessible to me. Pop-up distractions, however well-intentioned, are
absolute murder on my workflow and concentration. A “one size fits all”
approach isn’t just
Matthew,
While I appreciate your explanation, I agree with hackel about the
issue. Your usability studies may very well show what normal people
want, but I freely admit this is not me, hence why I dropped Ubuntu when
Unity came out (switched to Xubuntu) and don't run Xfwm on Xubuntu, but
rather
(I'm trying to remember whether it also steals keystrokes from other
applications in which the user might be typing, as pop-up dialogs
usually do, but I don't know how to trigger this behavior right now.)
Yes it does - I've been caught more than once with the way I have
Xubuntu set up - that I've
** Tags added: xubuntu
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update-notifier does not show a tray icon in xubuntu 13.10
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This really needs to be fixed. I'm actually a Unity user myself, but I
certainly do not want update-manager to run automatically whenever there
are updates, uselessly consuming resources until I manually close it. I
want to be *notified* that there are updates, and then choose whether I
want to
Will this be fix'd soon in Xubuntu Trusty or should I apply the patch?
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To
Forest, you have suggested that this behavior is related to Unity. That
is not the case. We concluded that the notification area was a bad way
to notify people of software updates way back in 2009 -- well before
Unity was designed or developed.
That decision was based partly on usability tests,
Matthew, I appreciate that you're genuinely trying to make things
better, and that you're being communicative here.
However, the statement, we concluded that the notification area was a
bad way to notify people, pretty much sums up the problem here: It
might seem like a bad way for you, but it is
This affects me on Fluxbox. I unset the auto_launch option a long time
ago, because I find the popups extremely intrusive and annoying (but I
do still find it useful to get a more subtle notification in the tray).
I think the volume of online HOWTOs explaining how to disable this
behaviour
Side note for those using my patch: I have confirmed that update-manager
now tells the user when a reboot is required, so it seems there's no
need to restore that functionality in update-notifier.
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apparently this was a design decision, but it should appear open, rather
than minimised.
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That's disappointing news, considering that it's a step backwards for
Xubuntu users and others who rely on update-notifier without Unity.
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The patched version works fine for me. However I don't get any 'restart
required'-notification on saucy. Can someone confirm this?
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I don't get Rerstart required message too, e.g. after
installing/updating fglrx.
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Title:
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That's expected. I restored the update notification code from the
earlier version, but didn't do anything about the restart required
code that had also been removed. I think I read somewhere that update-
manager now tells the user when a reboot is required. Is that not the
case?
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Yes, the issue still exists in Trusty.
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ok. I'll try and package the patch in a few days.
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Thank you, Jackson.
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Is this still any issue with trusty? If so, fixing it there should be
pretty easy.
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update-notifier does not show a tray icon in xubuntu
I'm attaching a patch against update-notifier 0.147.1 that restores tray
icon notifications. Once the patched version is installed, you'll want
to make sure the auto-launch feature is disabled* and then restart
update-notifier (or log out and back in).
If you don't want to mess around with source
The attachment restore_tray_icon.patch seems to be a patch. If it
isn't, please remove the patch flag from the attachment, remove the
patch tag, and if you are a member of the ~ubuntu-reviewers,
unsubscribe the team.
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** Also affects: update-notifier
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update-notifier does not show a tray icon in xubuntu 13.10
Okay, I have identified the problem.
update-notifier supports a mode called auto-launch. When it discovers
new updates and auto-launch mode is enabled, it doesn't notify the user
at all, but launches update-manager instead. If update-manager detects
important security updates, it immediately
output of apt-get upgrade, seems like it's related to the bug:
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Подготовка к замене пакета python-apport 2.12.5-0ubuntu2.1 (используется файл
…/python-apport_2.12.5-0ubuntu2.2_all.deb) …
Распаковывается замена для пакета python-apport …
Обрабатываются триггеры для ureadahead …
ureadahead will
The same problem. After sudo apt-get update indicator of update-notifier
doesn't appear if updates available. All files in /var/lib/update-
notifier are empty.
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It seems my notification tray problem was an unrelated bug. Now that
that's sorted out, I see that update-notifier does eventually appear
(minimized) when it finds that updates are ready for me, and sometimes
even opens its window on the desktop. I'm not sure yet, but it might be
that it's
** Tags added: saucy
** Tags added: regression-release
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It still remains the question, if a minimized window is a meaningful
way to inform the user about new updates.
The answer to that question is no.
The question in my mind is: what causes problem?
I didn't notice until just now, but it seems the upgrade from Xubuntu
13.04 to 13.10 removed the
(Ugh... please pardon the terrible misuse of punctuation above. I'm
tired.)
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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
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Ok, I see. The 'restart required' request is now integrated in the
software-updater window. With the fix for #1232363 this should be ok.
It still remains the question, if a minimized window is a meaningful way to
inform the user about new updates.
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1) Same for Unity. The update-notifier does not show up as indicator, so it
might be the new default behavior.
2) You have to re-launch the update-manager after creating this file. Now you
will get asked to restart the system.
3) What kind of notification did you get?
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