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To manage
I call FUD. I've encountered the whiteness bug on an AMD Athlon X2 /
nVidia nForce combo so Intel has nothing to do with it.
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Please. Travis already explained (clearly) what causes the bug, this
has nothing to do with it.
On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 6:19 AM, mantonfl273 mantonel...@gmail.com wrote:
I have an Nvidia video card and downloaded the latest driver as
recommended. I have had no problems. I think the problem
I have an Nvidia video card and downloaded the latest driver as
recommended. I have had no problems. I think the problem might be that
the rest of you are running a system using an Intel chipset. I am using
the Beta of Ubuntu 9.10, 32 bit version of Ubuntu on an AMD 64 Athlon X2
chipset. I have
I'm upstream too. :)
When you first start compiz it has to redirect all of your windows so it
can manipulate them. Unredirect Fullscreen Windows makes compiz stop
managing the fullscreen window. This also puts the fullscreen window
above everything else so all the windows compiz is managing will
How odd.
Well, then, I guess everything is settled. Thanks for the detailing,
Travis.
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Well but as some one in here said if this is an option and it behaves in
this way, we should remove that option from there, what could we use
that for?
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In the past it was worth using for the performance benefits even if it
did cause flickering for fullscreen applications that aren't video
games. We don't know if that is still the case for anyone so for karmic
at least the option will still be there for people that may need it.
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But I do really ask something: Does it have to flash when it is enabled
necessarily?
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There is no way for me to explain it better than I already have so I'll
just say this: yes.
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Adding papercut task and milestones from the dup.
This bug was fixed by turning off the Compiz unredirect fullscreen
windows by default , so fixed as per the dup [ Bug #451907 ] bug's
request.
compiz (1:0.8.3+git20090917-0ubuntu2) karmic; urgency=low
* debian/rules:
- remove metacity
ok this has being fixed.. BUT should windows in full screen flick or
flash when unredirect windows in fullscreen option is enabled?
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Manzur: I believe that the bug addressed the fact that applications were
flickering. Disabling that option fixed it, so the bug is fixed. It no
longer flickers.
I know where you're going, though. But I think that the fact that when
the option is enabled it does that calls for another bug. Again,
Chauncellor: I know where you're going, though. But I think that the
fact that when the option is enabled it does that calls for another bug.
Again, the problem of stock settings making things flicker has been
fixed.
answer: I have reported this issue.. saying that even with Unredirect
Windows in
There is no way to fix the flickering when this option is enabled,
that's a side effect of what that option does. The only fix it to not
use that option.
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I doubt that the flickering is an intention, otherwise the option
wouldn't even be there in the first place.
Manzur: Have you submitted the report upstream to opencompositing.org?
Even if LP doesn't do a good job of sorting out the bugs, I'm sure that
if the compiz devs know the issue, they'll
Oh, hell, I'm stupid. The bug has been reported (though the description
is a little crappy).
So the right people know what's up. :)
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I recently ran into this bug with my nvidia 185.18.36 driver for my GTX
260 running an up-to-date copy of Ubuntu Karmic. while finding a
workaround to enabling fullscreen Youtube videos with opera and Firefox.
The fix states to uncheck the 'undirect fullscreen windows' option,
which did indeed
I've ran into problems with Wolf:ET too, although I've been able to
solve them by enabling UFW , running the game and then disabling UFW
again. Instead of running et I've created a simple script which must
be run:
gconftool-2 --set
Hi guys, thought you might like to know we've developed a workaround and
hope to get it included in the beta release. If it doesn't make it in
time for the beta it'll be in the repos right after the beta release.
If you want to test it now you can go to
http://people.ubuntu.com/~amaranth/compiz/
That's good to hear but my nvidia system is 32-bit and I only see amd64
packages, sorry.
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For those that don't like glxgears, I ran Nexuiz fullscreen on Ultra
high quality with Unredirect both on and off.
Both ran at an average of 20 FPS. I did not notice any difference at all
in performance. In other words, both options sucked majorly, considering
this card should be able to more
Setting UFW to false has been most excellent improvement for me!
I do run nvidia's driver for my 7600gt and am affected by that whiteout
bug but I don't notice any performance drops here. I tested both
settings with the Phoronix Test Suite (unigine being the quickest full
screen test to set up)
Last one:
Here're two Phoronix benchmark tests.
8600 GT
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Again, we're not as worried about performance problems as bug 160264.
Even if every single nvidia user reported here saying performance was
fine you would not get this fix until bug 160264 is fixed.
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Right, thanks for the testing guys. Marking this bug as fixed. Only one
user seems to have performance problems with unredirect fullscreen
windows being disabled and that's with a driver that (at least used to
be) known for working just fine no matter what that setting was.
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I can still reproduce this bug on a fully up to date 64 bit Ubuntu 9.10
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This is because the change was reverted on the latest update:
compiz (1:0.8.3+git20090917-0ubuntu1) karmic; urgency=low
* New git snapshot of the 0.8 stable branch:
- fix assert failure when core is loaded twice
* debian/patches/029_default_options:
- revert 'set Unredirect
So far, it seems that it's only caused problems to _some_ NVidia
systems, but the flickering problem affects _ALL_ systems.
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@Chauncellor:
did your get these figures with glxgears -fullscreen ?
Was the test really FULLscreen? (no gnome panels, tooltips or sth) ?
I can reproduce this performance issue on a 9600M GT, a 9500 GT and a
Intel ??? (Asus K50IJ)
From the reason given in the changelog above
it causes problems
tankdriver:
The command was glxgears -fullscreen, but there were gnome panels
present (that's another bug, I belive). That shouldn't make a
difference, though, should it?
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Disabling unredirect fullscreen windows is the fix.
Yes, there's a performance loss (700fps-280fps in fullscreen) on my GeForce
8600M GT, but it's totally worth it.
I've been using it like this since the release of Jaunty, the flickering was
unacceptable.
Bad performance on nvidia cards should
This bug is fixed. Your bug is in your drivers.
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Sorry, actually it'll be fixed again in the next upload of compiz. The
change was reverted due to bug 160264 but to make sure we don't hit that
bit of fun in the nvidia driver again the compiz startup script will
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Does this mean that if compiz detects an NVidia card, it will tick
unredirect windows?
Basically, that means that this bug is fixed for everyone but NVidia
cards, right? Or am I reading this wrong.
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@Chauncellor: (#47):
yes, the panels make a big difference!!
@Chauncellor: (#51):
I think you read it right.
This script will make high-graphics-performance tuned, mostly nvidia systems,
flickering again!
(sorry for bad grammar)
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Right, nvidia users will have this option enabled every time they start
compiz. Until bug 160264 is fixed this and all other bugs caused by
unredirect fullscreen windows are effectively Won't Fix for nvidia
users. Luckily that means this bug is fixed for 70% of users according
to current GPU
I'm glad that this was at least partially resolved. Thank you all.
And I plan on buying an ATI as my next card. I've been fed up with
NVidia for a long time. I doubt their driver is going to be amazing
anytime soon, anyway.
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Writing in to say that this bug still happens with an Intel card on the
latest Karmic alpha 6 packages. I get a flash to desktop when typing 10%
of the time, and when clicking the History arrow in Firefox 100% of the
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The closest I've found is from
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=95034, post 12:
Unredirect Fullscreen Windows
Unfortunately, the damn thing doesn't work properly. At this moment, it
doesn't seem to help the FPS lags, but in UT2004 it does manage to steal
the mouse focus so you
Thanks too.
Is there already a bugreport/forumthread at nvidia concerning this special
issue?
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Looks like there are no threads on nvnews about this bug I believe I
told AaronP about this directly on IRC when we first discovered the
problem so there wouldn't be any record of that.
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Louis: Yeah, the bug was fixed then unfixed due to bug 160264 but it is
fixed again in our compiz packaging bzr repo so the fix will be in the
next upload of the compiz package happening some time this week
(hopefully tomorrow).
Also, my last comment was missing a period after 'bug'. :)
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Travis (#59): Ok :) Thanks for the status update. Will watch the
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Please don't use glxgears as benchmark - the results are irrelevant. See
http://lwn.net/Articles/323648/ .
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I created a thread:
http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=2089815
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The performance loss is bad but the main thing you guys should be
telling nvidia about is bug 160264 since nvidia won't get unredirect
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I can see that https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160264 is filed with
nvidia-graphics-drivers-180,
and karmic has 185, so am I right that it doesn't matter in karmic?
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On Mon, Sep 21, 2009 at 6:36 PM, Travis Watkins amara...@ubuntu.com
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I am sorry nvidia users, you should pester nvidia until they fix their
driver or vote with your wallet and switch to a Radeon.
Did I blink and miss something? Since when was AMD/ATI considered a better
hardware/driver
tankdriver: No, launchpad works on source packages and the source
package for the 185 driver is, confusingly enough, nvidia-graphics-
drivers-180.
Oli: I don't get several duplicate crash bugs every week from fglrx
users. I don't get the same bugs for 3 years with fglrx users. Sure,
fglrx might
ubuntu 9.10 alpha 6 with latest updates... I can still reproduce this
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I'm not a heavy gamer, and I'm not a professional graphics artist. I
have a friend running an ATI that is slightly less good than my 8600 GT
quality wise, but it ran out of the box perfectly, no questions asked.
The only problem I've run into was a little bit of tearing.
What did I get with
(On my nvidia machines, with enabled unredirect fullscreen windows, VSync
enabled:)
I find It very interesting, that if you have a fullscreen video running and you
move with your mouse to get the control bar, the flickering is a frame with
the desktop background.
And if your wait (control bar
Unfortunately it's not, when compiz is being activated (either this way
or when starting it with `compiz`) everything disappears and the
background you are seeing is your X root window. At this point compiz
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OK, like I said performance is bad with disabled unredirect fullscreen windows.
Thats bad for:
- 3D Games,
- even Video performance (Mythtv) is worse (Video Playback speed feels wavy)
- other visual applications that are used to display smooth movements
set Unredirect Fullscreen windows to false
tankdriver schrieb:
OK, like I said performance is bad with disabled unredirect fullscreen
windows.
Thats bad for:
- 3D Games,
I tested that with Quake Live. I don't see any difference in terms of
fps. What did you get with what game?
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For example:
Nexuiz v2.5.1, singleplayer level 1, effects pretty high
Unredirect Fullscreen windows true : 30 - 35 fps
Unredirect Fullscreen windows to false: 55 - 60 fps
UbanTerror: max effects: 60fps in every configuration, but with true
the game is shivering (unplayable)
I somehow can't start
ok, now I got glxgears in fullscreen:
Unredirect Fullscreen windows true:
~$ glxgears -fullscreen
Running synchronized to the vertical refresh. The framerate should be
approximately the same as the monitor refresh rate.
2698 frames in 5.0 seconds
3293 frames in 5.0 seconds
3258 frames in 5.0
I played Deus Ex through wine a few weeks ago perfectly fine with
Unredirect set to false. Of course, that's an outdated game, but I
haven't had any problems graphically since I first disabled it when
Jaunty came out. I've also played some tremulous as well. I'm on an
NVidia 8600GT
Unredirect
Hi I've been watching this bug for a while because I wrote a small
fullscreen app that ran into this problem until I disabled unredirect.
I haven't noticed any performance degredation in the 5 months I've been
running 9.04 with the unredirect disabled. So I decided to run some
benchmarks against
Well looks like I failed at alignment. Here 's just the results in
launchpad friendly format:
Driver Version = 173.14 Unredirect = Enabled min/avg/max FPS = 15/58/61
Driver Version = 173.14 Unredirect = Disabled min/avg/max FPS = 16/57/61
Driver Version = 180.44 Unredirect = Enabled
after the latest updates the flickering is over for me.
compiz (1:0.8.3+git20090915-0ubuntu1)
But is seems to be that the 3D performance is very bad now.
The bug is NOT FIXED, thats just a BAD workaround.
(see changelog: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz )
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There is no other possible fix, unredirect fullscreen windows basically
turns off compiz when you have a fullscreen window so then when another
window (totem play/pause bar for example) appears compiz has to be
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it's more than just a flicker for me on Karmic A5, now. It's full-blown
chaotic flickering that doesn't stop until you leave your mouse still.
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This bug is still happening in Karmic as of Alpha 5, I have consolidated
another duplicate bug, but the workaround posted on tombuntu or Bruched
fix are effective for alleviating the flicker behavior in Firefox.
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This is most annoying with the new notification system.
Imagine watching a fullscreen video and a notification about some IM contact
appearing online causes a fllicker (a quick desktop background flash).
If one has a lot of contacts these notifications appear many times a minute and
the
(just a theory:)
I think this bug causes in some way #420419 (mouse settings messed up after
flickering during gaming)
(This is to heavy to be a papercut, Am I right?)
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Has anyone had less performance with this option checked? If not, why
don't we just have this option by default?
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because it is not the right way to solve, i think it is due to an
internal code error
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After I posted my last response, I realized that the Legacy Fullscreen
option in compizconfig-settings-manager didn't actually resolve the problem.
It reduced it, but flickers to show the desktop still occur.
On Thu, Aug 13, 2009 at 11:28 AM, manzur sl.sola...@gmail.com wrote:
because it is not
I experience this problem in a fresh install of Jaunty on machine with
an Intel video chipset. The unredirect workaround solves the problem for
me.
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Although the undirect fullscreen windows fix worked for me, I still
believe that my bug has been marked as a duplicate of this one in error.
The author of this bug states that garbage appears on the screen when a
popup appears. In my case I can confirm that it is always the desktop
background.
Brucehd's fix worked for me on Jaunty.
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On April 24, i removed Ubuntu 7.10 and erase partition, and I installed
Jaunty.
I didn't install Compiz yet and i didn't made the tests yet.
With this PC, i didn't like Compiz in the past, I keep regular mode no extra
effect.
In the future, when I will get a new PC with more memory and Video Card
I also confirm presence of this problem on Jaunty (i386) with Nvidia
proprietary driver.
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I can confirm this on the Jaunty RC, and also confirm that brucehd's fix
works, at least in Firefox.
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Confirmed on up-to-date Jaunty beta (April-11) : flickering occurs in
fullscreen mode with compiz activated in VLC and Totem at least.
Nvidia GeForce 7300 LE with proprietary driver v180 activated and 512MB
dedicated.
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HP G60 Laptop, Intel Graphics card, 2.0GHz Dual Core, 2Gig Memory, 16 wide
screen (1366x768).
I seem to have the similar problem, when running Firefox in full screen
mode, everytime I right click the whole screen flickers. Rather
annoying.
A couple of test I did and wanted to
It has indeed started again in jaunty. Confirming.
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this issue reappeared again in Ubuntu 9.04
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This seems to have been fixed in jaunty. Feel free to re-open this bug
if the issue persists.
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