[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-25 Thread Pete Boyd
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian has the following things I consider errors: * 'Debian' is written 'debian' in the following: - They continue to stay active in contributing to Debian both in the course of their work on Ubuntu and directly in debian. - Debian and record the

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-24 Thread Matthew Nuzum
OK, we've resurrected the debian page and put it here: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/debian The old redirect, www.u.c/ubuntu/debian which has been pointing to the faq page has been updated to point to this new resource. However, it was a 301 so caches may not see it for quite some

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-24 Thread Raphael Hertzog
Thanks for the fix! FYI, I just submitted #156754 as the new page points to the components page to refer for more information about the sources used to create universe and that page doesn't give that information. https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-website/+bug/156754 -- Website does not

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-24 Thread Stefano Zacchiroli
Many thanks for the fix guys! -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-24 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Hi, Just two questions: - what about the idea of a technology page? - where is this page linked from? -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for

Re: [Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-24 Thread Matthew East
On 24/10/2007, Lucas Nussbaum [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - where is this page linked from? It's in the sidebar of the The Ubuntu Story section I've already written my opinion on your other question on the bug so won't comment again on that. -- Matthew East http://www.mdke.org gnupg pub

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-23 Thread Ali AbdulAziz
Thanks Raphaƫl Hertzog I am pleased to see a Debian member encouraging debian-ubuntu cooperation -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu.

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-23 Thread Ondrej Certik
I also agree with Raphael that the majority of Debian users/members are rather satisfied that Ubuntu is the most spread distribution. -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-22 Thread Scott James Remnant
I think it's concerning that Debian are demanding that Ubuntu carry reference to Debian, whilst simultaneously removing Ubuntu developers from their community resources such as Planet Debian. -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this

Re: [Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-22 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
On 22/10/07 at 13:14 -, Scott James Remnant wrote: I think it's concerning that Debian are demanding that Ubuntu carry reference to Debian, whilst simultaneously removing Ubuntu developers from their community resources such as Planet Debian. I can see feeds for the following Ubuntu

Re: [Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-22 Thread Matthew East
On 22/10/2007, Scott James Remnant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it's concerning that Debian are demanding that Ubuntu carry reference to Debian, whilst simultaneously removing Ubuntu developers from their community resources such as Planet Debian. If that's true, then it's worth addressing

Re: [Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-22 Thread Raphael Hertzog
On Mon, 22 Oct 2007, Scott James Remnant wrote: I think it's concerning that Debian are demanding that Ubuntu carry reference to Debian, whilst simultaneously removing Ubuntu developers from their community resources such as Planet Debian. I know you're a bit bitter with how some Debian member

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-21 Thread Lucas Nussbaum
Just to show how much this page is needed, here are some comments that were made by users on my blog post: - Usual ubuntu bashing by debian people. When debian Etch there were tons of congratulatory messages on planet ubuntu and ubuntu forums. On planet debian you just see venom against

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew East
Lucas - while I appreciate your enthusiasm, I don't think we need more comments to show that the page is needed: the bug has been marked as confirmed for some time... From my end all I see as necessary is to decide how to fix it. Corey, where (bearing in mind my comments above) would you see such

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-21 Thread Matthew East
** Changed in: ubuntu-website Status: Invalid = Confirmed -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-21 Thread racoon97
** Changed in: ubuntu-website Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-20 Thread Paul Sladen
Not *just* Debian ... :) -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-20 Thread Vit
Ha ha ;) http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/components universe component The universe component is a snapshot of the free, open source, and Linux world. In universe you can find almost every piece of open source software, and software available under a variety of less open

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-20 Thread Corey Burger
I think we should create a technology page, as sladen suggested, crediting not Debian, but also the Linux kernel, X.org, GNOME, etc. -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Raphael Hertzog
FWIW, during Debconf 2006 (in Mexico) we (me and some DD) suggested to Mark Shuttleworth and Matt Zimmerman to put a Debian logo on the Ubuntu CD distributed through shipit. Mark seemed very enthusiastic to do this but he feared some trademark problems and consulted the Debian Project Leader (who

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Matthew East
Corey - I think that creating a new page dedicated to something like this is going to require further and more detailed discussion, which I'd suggest takes place on the marketing mailing list. The problem for me is that the current structure of the website, splitting content between Ubuntu the

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Corey Burger
Ok, enough talk. Lets create a technology page as Paul suggests. -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Ali AbdulAziz
Then I guess we should rename ubuntu to be ubuntu-is-based-on-Debian -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Jean-Christophe Baptiste
This is definitely not enough. Telling that Ubuntu includes leaders from Debian and telling that Ubuntu is based on Debian sounds VERY different, doesn't it ? -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Daniel
Hi! I really don't think that this is a bug... If you go to the About us (http://www.ubuntu.com/aboutus), there they talk about Debian and I think there's the right place in the Website for doing this. I kind of agree with Ali AbdulAziz opinion: Ubuntu is currently being heavily marketed and

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread IM.tehk
There is no reason for it to be directly on the whatis page, as that page does not even mention linux or gnu, but a link( optional) to what ubuntu is technically on that page would provide a good starting point to explaining the relationship. It also is a good place to describe where all the

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Matthew Nuzum
I've changed the title of this bug. I can' t say for sure that the website *should* mention it (that's not my call) but I can confirm that the website does not do so at the moment. ** Summary changed: - Should reference Debian visibly + Website does not reference Debian visibly -- Website does

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Martin Albisetti
I have exchanged emails with Matt Zimmerman and Daniel Holbach back in September (there where close to a dozen CCs, so I'm assume it was public), I'll just extract a quick quote from them: On Tue, Sep 11, 2007 at 10:50:18PM -0300, Martin Albisetti wrote: Secondly, all references to Debian have

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Jean-Christophe Baptiste
You know well that this is exaggerating. You are not giving any argument like that. As some people wrote before, let's shut up and leave the place here for some constructive suggestions. -- Website does not reference Debian visibly https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/154274 You received this bug

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Ali AbdulAziz
ok. I am sorry about, but seriously, ubuntu gave Debian credit where it was due to it. Debian is also composed of many upstream projects.so not everything in Debian is their baby. let's just wait and see whether sabdfl can give a word in this matter. -- Website does not reference Debian

[Bug 154274] Re: Website does not reference Debian visibly

2007-10-19 Thread Matthew East
Guys, the comments on this report are getting a bit out of control. Everyone has valid opinions about this issue, but they should be expressed in another medium. Let's keep this bug report focused on the ways in which the problem can be fixed on the website. The editors have enough information to