This is 2012, usability is rated as minor important, seriously?
Seeing that this problem is known since 2007 drives me mad.
In the end these small things decide if a Ui supports you in doing your work,
or make it a real pain.
I am glad that I found the work around - but editing some xml-
@michael-kraxner; are you seeing this issue in Unity2d or Unity3d?
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In my experience this is only a problem in unity 2d and not in unity.
Grabbing window borders and resizing is easy in Unity but a pain in
Unity 2d.
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+1 on this problem. Running in VMware with Unity2D, Ubuntu 12.04.
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Same here. Impossible to resize by grabbing windows borders on 12.04 -
64-bit - 1920x1080 screen. Using the workaround seems to have fixed it.
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This is also confirmed at my system; the window resize area at the border is 1
pixel wide.
Ubuntu 12.04 with Gnome classic, no effects.
With the Unity mode, the borders are grabbable but the corner resize area is
way too small.
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This problem or some related problem has come back for me after the
12.04 upgrade. On my 1920 x 1080 screen I am unable to click and drag on
the lower-left, bottom, lower-right, left, or right resize handles at
all, even if the resize mouse cursor is displayed. I can click and drag
on the
12.04 ... not fixed here. I think the devs must be all running MacOS.
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Inexplicably, I think Canonical wants to clone MacOS as much as
possible, without getting sued. Worstinterface..ever.
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I need to vent. The #1 comment in this thread, has at least a semi-valid
workaround that requires 3 line changes, but it hasn't been released in
5 years? Somethign is really wrong with Cannonical that this is a lower
priority than all the new UI features? Some people might not agree, I
just hope
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The bug affecting unity was really in compiz and is now marked as fixed:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/953839
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I am told that the next Unity release (due today or tomorrow) will fix
this again.
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Oh my god I can not believe this bug returned recently in 12.04. What a
regression! It's like a nightmare!
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On 22/03/12 09:45, Ingo Gerth wrote:
Oh my god I can not believe this bug returned recently in 12.04. What a
regression! It's like a nightmare!
I am starting to think there must be an evil force trying to make the
Ubuntu desktop harder to use! First this really annoying persistent bug,
then
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+1 confirmation that invisible borders are no longer active on
03/19/2012 daily build of Precise 12.04.
This behavior is extremely frustrating and brings back bad memories from
this old bug. A temporary regression let's hope!
** Also affects: unity
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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I confirm that in precise the invisible window borders are no more present and
the resize process is again difficult.
Maybe this is because unity-window-decorator has been replaced by
gtk-window-decorator?
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I don't think this really is actually fixed in Unity in Precise, or
rather, bizarrely, it seems intermittently fixed. This morning, it was
working ok, but now I have to be exactly over the very narrow border to
resize the windows.
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demonstration
** Attachment added: recording.ogv
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hm, launchpad isn't linking it, but https://bugs.launchpad.net/unity-
2d/+bug/160311/+attachment/2879264/+files/recording.ogv shows that it's
actually still hard to grab the window border in precise.
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I agree with Renbag. I use terminal windows without scroll bar all the
time. Thi is not a solution. The only reasonable solution is to restore
invisible grabbing area of size~5 pixels within all long window's
borders.
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I guess the work done here https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec
/packageselection-dx-n-resizing-windows was not ported to Unity?
It's sad that this basic usability bug affecting all users is over 4
years old, and people just keep trotting out workarounds.
Fortunately, the problem is not
In unity the bug has been fixed using invisible window grip support through
compiz and unity-window-decorator.
See: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/metacity/+bug/160311/comments/246
The resize difficulties remains only when using unity-2d.
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Are there any plans to address this bug for unity-2d, after having marked it as
critical? Recently the resize grips in the bottom right corner have been
entirely removed from precise, leaving the resize process of windows very
difficult in unity-2d.
I use the attached script
Renzo: In precise (ubuntu 12.04), you can resize the window by grabbing the
overlay scrollbar, which is much larger than the border, and available
regardless of the session type (unity-2d or anything else).
Yann Dìnendal
On Fri, Mar 9, 2012 at 16:42, Renzo Bagnati
Using the overlay scrollbar to resize is not very intuitive and can be
used only to drag horizontally. Moreover the scrollbar is visible only
if the window has a scrollable content, hence is not a general solution.
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Importance: Undecided = Critical
** Changed in: unity-2d
Status: New = Confirmed
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2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu
Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :)
Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded
into the theme right?
But is this really necessary?
Three options:
- review feedback and pick a sensible
Actually the size of the shadow sounds as a good starting point!
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2011/12/22 u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu
Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab
On 22 December 2011 02:21, Paul Sladen ubu...@paul.sladen.org wrote:
Steve Flynn: are you on Unity 2D or Unity 3D?
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@jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing
behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In
both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom
of the windows that is dragable, in fact I think the dragable area in
Ubuntu is
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net
@jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing
behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In
both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom
of the windows that is dragable,
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@stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also
affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the
dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes
the size could be increased, but 5px also seems workable. For those who
need *
2011/12/21 John Lea 160...@bugs.launchpad.net
@stapostol; thanks for your response, I've marked the bug as also
affects unity2d. Re. the sizing of the dragable area, in WindowsXP the
dragable area is 5px (but it may well be larger in Windows 7). So yes
the size could be increased, but 5px
Hy!
I'm a little bit afraid of a larger resize area.. If I click 10px far
from a window, I probably want to raise the window below. 5-6px is ok,
but more is risky, especially because that area is invisible.
Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu
On 12/21/2011 03:56 PM, The Fiddler wrote:
Hi John,
On 22/12/11 01:59, John Lea wrote:
@jan-bakuwel-gmail; in what way is the current Ubuntu window resizing
behaviour different from the Microsoft window resizing behaviour? In
both Windows and Ubuntu we have several px on the left, right and bottom
of the windows that is dragable, in
Perhaps the developers should simply use a laptop with a touchpad and
high resolution screen and see if they can resize windows without
inflicting RSI on themselves.
Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives
me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system
On 21 December 2011 20:54, David N. Welton davidnwel...@gmail.com
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Bingo! My laptop has a very high resolution screen, and this bug drives
me batty. Don't the developers ever test on a system with a high
resolution screen and a trackpad?
Try using a trackball. Absolute nightmare.
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Hy!
I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61
(14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible
to catch with any display and pointing device.
Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu
On 12/21/2011 10:53 PM, Steve Flynn wrote:
On 21 December 2011
On 21 December 2011 22:27, u-foka ta...@eisenberger.hu wrote:
Hy!
I can grab the 5px areas easily with trackball or touchpad on my T61
(14,1 1440x900), on the other hand, the 1px area is nearly impossible
to catch with any display and pointing device.
Alienware m15x, 1900 * 1200. If I hit
Steve Flynn: are you on Unity 2D or Unity 3D?
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Maybe the best would be a configurable size for the hidden grab area :)
Currently it's difficult to change, how I seen the size is hardcoded
into the theme right?
Eisenberger Tamás ta...@eisenberger.hu
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On 21 December 2011 22:27,
On 21/12/11 11:32, Nacnud Nosmoht wrote:
Broken on Oneiric. And I still haven't seen a fix. And I don't care if
this is or isn't a bug, and all the other nuances, I just want a way to
be able to resize windows. I can make it work if I have a mouse plugged
in, but using the touchpad, with my
Broken on Oneiric. And I still haven't seen a fix. And I don't care if
this is or isn't a bug, and all the other nuances, I just want a way to
be able to resize windows. I can make it work if I have a mouse plugged
in, but using the touchpad, with my calloused fingers, it's completely
No offense, but I also agree with Nacnud.
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I have experienced the same problem with a fresh installation of Ubuntu 11.04
natty.
I have fixed it with the following:
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Workaround: Edit /usr/share/themes/Ambiance/metacity-1/metacity-theme-1.xml.
Set the following values in frame_geometry_normal as desired:
distance
yep, it regressed for me too. and to make the matter worse, the gtk
resize grip in the bottom-right corner is gone too (or at least it's
gone when using gnome-shell, not sure about unity)
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2011/8/21 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com
Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d
Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some
effort? If so, where should they be implemented?
On Mon, Aug 22, 2011 at 9:22 PM, Fabien Tassin f...@ubuntu.com wrote:
yep, it regressed for me too. and to make the matter worse, the gtk
resize grip in the bottom-right corner is gone too (or at least it's
gone when using gnome-shell, not sure about unity)
They will be back once we work out
2011/8/21 RussianNeuroMancer 160...@bugs.launchpad.net
Now it's again issue in Oneiric.
In both unity and unity2d.
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Now it's again issue in Oneiric.
In both unity and unity2d.
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Invisible borders are not implemented in unity-2d
Are they technically infeasible or could they be implemented with some
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On 21 Apr 2011, at 09:11, Peter 160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
thanks to scaine #58 for something that works
can't believe it took 4 years for some to realise windows that are
extremely difficult to grab the sides of is not the intention of a
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Are you running unity-window-decorator?
ps aux | grep unity-window-decorator
On one of my machines I have similar issue. unity-window-decorator is
not running. After:
$ compiz --replace
$ unity-window-decorator --replace
border is more than 1px. Which package should I re/install to
Well, I got Ubuntu 11.04 (Unity) up-to-date, but still this border grip
problem isn't fixed.
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Worked for me with a fresh install. Extra grab space is on the outside of
the window in the shadow area
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That is strange I just use Unity 3d and unity 2d (no classic) with
the default Ambiance theme, I didn't change a thing.
I also did a fresh Ubuntu 11.04 install, so what do I wrong?
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your assistance. Please could you file a /new/ bug report (and post the
bug number here) so we can keep what you're seeing separate from the
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unity-window-decorator is not running
my themes are in:
/usr/share/themes/
And do not remember installing any theme manually. I always used just the ones
that came with Ubuntu.
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It says in this thread that a fix was commited. I upraded to Ubuntu
11.04 using the classic gnome desktop and still my window borders in the
ambiance and radiance themes are only 1 pixel wide, so resizing windows
with the mouse alone is still a pain in the ass. I thought it was fixed
now. Is
On Sat, Jul 16, 2011 at 10:56 PM, UeB moritz_nad...@gmx.de wrote:
It says in this thread that a fix was commited. I upraded to Ubuntu
11.04 using the classic gnome desktop and still my window borders in the
ambiance and radiance themes are only 1 pixel wide, so resizing windows
with the mouse
thanks to scaine #58 for something that works
can't believe it took 4 years for some to realise windows that are extremely
difficult to grab the sides of is not the intention of a Graphical User
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We can't backport it unless we backport compiz too since it is
dependent on the reparenting feature of compiz which was introduced in
the unstable version in Natty.
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160...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote:
I agree that this should be backported, especialy
Peter (#257): you are correct to note [I] can't believe it took 4 years
.. to. The problem itself has had been known about for three years
(as evidenced by this bug report filed in December 2007) before designs
were done, those designs tested, and ultimately deployed.
The word realisation can
I agree that this should be backported, especialy to 10.04 LTS
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Thanks for getting it fixed for Natty. Please backport that fix to
10.04LTS and 10.10.
I know it says no more comments needed, but I'm not certain that is
totally accurate. With one hand having a small tremor, and the other
not, I guess I qualify under both usability and accessibility. So I add
Sorry, I meant to repeat my thanks at the end of that last post. Bug
tracking, fixing, testing, and finally deploying the associated
patch(es) is often a thankless and unglamorous set of tasks. Rest
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In reply to #245 by The Fiddler:
I'm not sure if our experience differs or if I did not explain my
proposed solution well enough. I find that I have no difficulty getting
the resize pointer to appear momentarily while moving across the window
border, the problem lies in actually clicking while
In reply to #245 by The Fiddler:
I'm not sure if our experience differs or if I did not explain my
proposed solution well enough. I find that I have no difficulty getting
the resize pointer to appear momentarily while moving across the window
border, the problem lies in actually clicking while
#245:
Our experience is indeed different. I simply cannot make the pointer
appear using a trackpad. It often takes me upwards of 5'' to find the
correct pixel.
Funnily enough, I've had four separate Ubuntu users comment on this
behavior independently, just during the last week. I'm glad to see
Its fixed in natty alpha2
R
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This bug was fixed in the package light-themes - 0.1.8.5
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[ Sam Spilsbury ]
* New Ambiance properties for shadow and padding added to
metacity theme files (for invisible window grip support).
These are read by
Solution applied in Natty (will be in Ubuntu 11.04).
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: Confirmed = Fix Released
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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metacity (1:2.30.3-0ubuntu2) natty; urgency=low
* debian/patches/06_Add_UXD_shadows_and_borders.patch:
- patch for a new key in the ubuntu theme for shows and borders
-- Didier Roche didro...@ubuntu.com Thu, 13 Jan 2011 17:55:35 +0100
** Changed in: metacity (Ubuntu)
Status:
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Milestone: lucid-round-3 = nt3-ayatana
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts
Assignee: (unassigned) = Sam SmSpillaz Spilsbury (smspillaz)
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** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/light-themes
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The fix works marvellously in the Ubuntu classic desktop! Thanks!
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I think a good modification to the invisible drag handle proposal
would be to rather use resize border resistance. This is a solution
that won't require more than 1 px of UI space to work well. How I
envisage it working is:
1) keep your arbitrarily small window border resize
2) Define a
2011/1/24 Neilen Marais launch...@chatsubo.lagged.za.net
I think a good modification to the invisible drag handle proposal
would be to rather use resize border resistance. This is a solution
that won't require more than 1 px of UI space to work well. How I
envisage it working is:
1) keep
I thought I was the only one who really had a problem with this. But
then I thought that wouldn't make sense, and that probably nobody had
filed a bug.
So I searched and found this.
And I'm shocked this HUGE bug has been filed here for around 3 years yet it's
low priority.
How can this be low
MikeLoco14: Yes, corner drag functionality is already in natty (which will
likely become Ubuntu 11.04 in April 2011).
As the blog post from 9 October 2010 notes: The credit for this work goes to
Cody Russell. Cody is an Ubuntu Member, see Cody's Launchpad page:
I'm getting worried. There is this *very* annoying bug that affects
every day the usability of the whole OS and this bug has been open and
not fixed for 3 years!!! Don't you listen to users at all?!
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hannuko: I don't think the One Hundred Paper Cuts project is being taken
very seriously. Of all bugs in the project, this one has the highest
number of comments and second-highest number of people affected, but is
tagged as Low importance.
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** Description changed:
*
- No more comments needed
+ No more comments needed
- This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier
releases as well.
+ This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to
+ earlier releases as well.
+
Thanks Vish.
Would it be possible to amend the following sentence so it reads:
+ This should mostly be fixed for Natty and *will* get backported to
10.04 and might get backported to earlier releases as well.
10.04 is a LTS after all...
thanks,
Jan
On 03/01/11 07:53, Vish wrote:
**
On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 10:49 PM, Martin Spacek launch...@mspacek.mm.st wrote:
Sorry for the noise, but as others have pointed out (over the years!),
one workaround is using ALT+middle mouse button to resize from anywhere
within a window. Just want to add that there's a key in gconf that let's
** Description changed:
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*
- No more comments needed
+ No more comments needed
This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier
releases as well.
*
Binary package hint: metacity
- The issue has been an issue for users
** Description changed:
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No more comments needed
This should mostly be fixed for Natty and might get backported to earlier
releases as well.
*
Binary package hint: metacity
- The issue has been an issue for users (especially of large) screens for
[cut]
The best fix for this usability bug is to create an invisible region
around each non-maximized window about 4px thick that can be used for
resizing
I would suggest creating this resizing area only _inside_ this window, 4
pixels close to border.
Or perhaps there should be a border
Sorry for the noise, but as others have pointed out (over the years!),
one workaround is using ALT+middle mouse button to resize from anywhere
within a window. Just want to add that there's a key in gconf that let's
you change that to using ALT+right mouse button instead:
Whatever solution you people come up with for 11.04 makes no difference
to me, but holy heck this needs to be fixed. It's embarrassing to have a
100 Paper Cuts project without this being on it.
If you're going to make a 1 pixel border on your default theme, you'd
better figure out a way for
I completely agree, resizing windows in Ubuntu 10.10 (with default
theme) is a frustrating experience. And I'm using a *normal* resolution
(1366 x 768)...
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How can that be true? Why itsn't it fix in that Ubuntu release? :S
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Seem to be solved in GNOME 3
http://blogs.fedoraproject.org/wp/mclasen/2010/10/09/getting-a-grip/
On Sat, Oct 23, 2010 at 20:48, Ben Shadwick benshadw...@gmail.com wrote:
Does anyone know if this issue still exists in the current state of
Gnome 3?
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Resizing windows by grabbing window
I'm sad to see that a corner grip is the way they've decided to address
things, as it's really just a workaround.
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Resizing windows by grabbing window borders is difficult [please no more
comments; patches welcome]
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/160311
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