[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-17 Thread dotancohen
An excellent solution that I can live with. Thank you for sharing that. -- KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182786 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-16 Thread O. Sinclair
quote: The point of this post is to say: This discussion is pointless, Kubuntu won't be LTS, it will have a KDE 4 install CD and it will be KDE 3 via upgrades. As you see from other comments and in other discussions the it is not pointless to the users. The LTS thing is accepted, putting KDE4

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-16 Thread dotancohen
Why not have the option of desktop in the installer. It could be worded like this: 1) Stable System: based upon current generation KDE technology. 2) Advanced System:based upon next generation KDE technology. I insist that the 3.x branch of KDE is the current generation, especially at stated by

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-16 Thread Jonathan Patrick Davies
Please read: http://people.ubuntuwire.com/~jpatrick/minutes/kubuntu- meeting-20071222.pdf There will be: 1) A Kubuntu Hardy KDE 4 CD (seed in progress) 2) A Kubuntu Hardy KDE 3 CD (based on kubuntu-desktop seed) Take your pick from the website. -- KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-15 Thread Jonathan Patrick Davies
Kubuntu will NOT be LTS anyway, with or without KDE 3 or KDE 4. Why? Canonical says so. Why not have KDE 3? Because the majority of KDE developers are right now developing the new and exciting technologies of KDE 4! Will there be KDE developers working on KDE 3 in three years time with updates

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-15 Thread O. Sinclair
I of course want KDE4 to be great and all that BUT I have a number of production machines with reasonably happy users and the last thing I want is to put them in an untested and/or buggy environment. That said, I still want to be able to upgrade or do fresh installs when 8.04 arrives as I have

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-15 Thread dotancohen
Last I heard, Fedora was the experimental bleeding edge distro, and [K]ubuntu was meant to be a stable, reliable OS. That's why my daily driver is running Kubuntu. If Kubuntu starts including incomplete, unstable, and bug-ridden software that even the developers say is not fit for everyday use,

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-15 Thread Terence Simpson
Canonical clearly states... Canonical stated nothing, that's the Kubuntu statement, not Canonical. I find that letting your upstream providers dictate what your final configuration will be... Upstream always dictates what you have in the end, they are upstream after all and they make the

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-15 Thread dotancohen
Upstream always dictates what you have in the end, they are upstream after all and they make the code. Not true, Kubuntu could ship with KDE 1.4 should they want to. This discussion is pointless, The discussion as to what will be the default UI is far from pointless, in fact, I'd say that it

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-15 Thread dhcolesj
I guess since its obvious users aren't important here, so I guess I too will find a new distro. I guess I'll have to learn Gnome, that seems to be where more and more distros are headed anyway. Now I know why. Its absolutely ludicrous to move Kubuntu to KDE 4 knowing that everyone who used it

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-14 Thread O. Sinclair
I just want to add my support to this for whatever it is worth. I would even suggest branching Kubuntu in a KDE4 flavor and a stable KDE 3.5 distro instead of messing with the well working and stable Kubuntu I use. -- KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182786

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-14 Thread Terence Simpson
Kubuntu 8.04 will not be LTS anyway ** Changed in: meta-kde (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182786 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu.

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-14 Thread dhcolesj
I also would like KDE 3 as a standard. After seeing KDE 4's inabilities I don't think its ready for prime time. Not only that, but its foolish to have Ubuntu at LTS level and Kubuntu not. Keep the 3.5.8 as the default, and make KDE 4 and also can do option in the installer. -- KDE4 should not

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-14 Thread Clay Weber
As Canonical made the decision to not have a *Kubuntu* LTS version for 8.04, and that there will be choice (if I understand correctly) of either version of KDE in Hardy, this is a rather moot subject. -- KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/182786 You received

[Bug 182786] Re: KDE4 should not be standard in 8.04 LTS

2008-01-14 Thread dotancohen
Even if Kubuntu 8.04 is not LTS, KDE 4.0 is not production ready. So say the KDE devs. Why was this marked invalid? If it is because of the LTS misstatement, than that is not good enough reason to invalidate the bug. Rather, it is good reason to simply change the bug's title. I will revalidate