I can confirm that on Ubuntu 10.10 this problem still exists.
The easiest way to observe it is to open a page that uses Helvetica in Firefox
4.
Unlinking 30-metric-aliases.conf fixes the problem so I guess this is still
exactly the same issue.
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I think this bug is a duplicate of bug #41411. Can you confirm this?
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Yes, kind of. But over at bug #41411 they haven't realized yet that that
30-metric-aliases.conf leads to a /chain/ of aliases, which is the
reason for Nimbus popping up everywhere.
Website==Arial → Helvetica → Nimbus Sans
Website==Times New Roman → Times → Nimbus Roman No9
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I'm normally not a user of office programs, still I fired it up to see
how Office is affected if 30-metric-aliases.conf is removed. The
relative merit of uncorrupted documents vs good looking hinting has
to be clear here.
So I made a series of tests:
reference: A line of WWW before page break, a
Arial: good
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Liberation Sans: good (metric compatible, but not DFSG free, and not in
main)
** Attachment added: Liberation Sans
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13034450/liberation-sans.png
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Nimbus Sans: broken layout
Liberation is not available, so Nimbus is aliased to Arial via the path
Arial → Helvetica → Nimbus
n.b.: This is the default setup! metric compatibility is not given.
** Attachment added: Nimbus Sans
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/13034470/nimbus-sans-l.png
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DejaVu Sans: broken layout
I unlinked /etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf. Same outcome,
layout is not preserved since no metric compatible font for Arial is
available.
In principle there's no difference wrt word processing unless Liberation
is shipped by default. The same holds for
I'm actually not arguing it from a office app perspective. I rarely use
Open Office, and that's not where I first noticed it. I noticed it
looking at a page in Firefox.
Whether preserving layouts or having good looking fonts in web pages is
more important is just a matter of opinion. I think it's
The Nimbus fonts are PostScript fonts and normally the right replacement
for the group Helvetica, Times, Courier, because those are Type1 fonts,
too. Unfortunately Helvetica is then aliased to Arial, which would
prefer Liberation Sans but that is not available, so Nimbus Sans gets
aliased to it.
No, liberation sans is not hinted. The only good hinted fonts that are
available by default are the DejaVu series and the Bitstream series
(essentially the same font).
I know about all the hinting settings, but that's not the problem here.
The problem here is that the default Gnome Desktop is set
It looks like it's this file:
/etc/fonts/conf.d/30-metric-aliases.conf
That's causing the problems. If that file is removed, then everything
goes back to the happy defaults from before (arial - Deja Vu Sans,
etc.)
I'm not sure what 30-metric-aliases.conf is trying to do, but it's
definitely
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