[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-17 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
This bug was fixed in the package net-tools - 1.60-19ubuntu2 --- net-tools (1.60-19ubuntu2) intrepid; urgency=low * Change units to be multiples of 10, there is compelling argument that this is better for transfer speeds and bandwidths. Remove mention of IEC 60027-2 units

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-16 Thread Neal McBurnett
See the original change to ifconfig in Ubuntu for gutsy at https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/net-tools/+bug/119998 That was was a request to change to reporting by decimal multiples, but ended up just changing the names of the units from e.g. GiB to GB. -- Ifconfig uses incorrect

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-15 Thread Neal McBurnett
I agree that a good citation on the units used for of datacom like ethernet would be useful. A bit of poking thru http://standards.ieee.org/getieee802/download/802.3-2005_section1.pdf shows lots of references to things like 100 Mb/s and 1000 Mb/s but I haven't found a totally clear statement

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
Our policy is to use the most appropriate unit that might be expected. For disk sizes and partitioning, we use thousands of bytes since that is what disk manufacturers use. This means that a drive that is termed by the manufacturer as 80 GB will be shown as 80 GB. For memory sizes and RAM, we

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-14 Thread Scott James Remnant
Colin next to me pointed out we should find out what the actual speeds of things like 802.3 (ethernet), 802.11 (wifi), DSL, etc. are quoted in. Is a 100 Mb/s LAN 100,000,000 b/s or 104,857,600 b/s? If someone can provide a cited reference to the specification, we'll know what unit to use for

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-14 Thread Neal McBurnett
I vote for using standards consistently and logically. Doing otherwise leads to ongoing confusion. Haven't we learned, and championed, this message over and over in the past? Marketing materials and even usage in standards will vary by country, culture, time and market niche. Basing technical

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-14 Thread Kasper Meerts
Why do you think using WRONG units will decrease confusion. That's about as paradoxical as it gets. Standards were instituted for a reason. Is this not what we blame Microsoft always for? It's this that is making me confused. If I see MB I don't know whether it means a million or a million 48

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-07-14 Thread Neal McBurnett
Bandwidth is generally measured using decimal multiples. 100 Mb/sec Ethernet is 100,000,000 bits/sec, and a 128 kbit/s MP3 stream consumes 128,000 bits per second. IEEE, ISO, IEC, NIST and CENELEC all deprecate the use of SI units for other than powers of 10, and endorse binary prefixes like

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-18 Thread Brian Murray
** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #118006 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=118006 ** Also affects: net-tools (Fedora) via https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=118006 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Ifconfig uses incorrect units

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: net-tools (Fedora) Status: Unknown = Fix Released -- Ifconfig uses incorrect units https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-16 Thread Brian Murray
I think the more correct thing to do is change how units are display in ifconfig output from GB to GiB, rather than changing how the math is done. I found a corresponding upstream bug report with a patch for this and will add a bug watch for it. ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #241501

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: net-tools (Debian) Status: Unknown = New -- Ifconfig uses incorrect units https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-15 Thread Danilo Penna Queiroz
** Changed in: net-tools (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Ifconfig uses incorrect units https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-14 Thread Kasper Meerts
** Attachment added: Use correct units http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15320362/ifconfig.patch -- Ifconfig uses incorrect units https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 240073] Re: Ifconfig uses incorrect units

2008-06-14 Thread Kasper Meerts
Eternal shame is mine. This is a correcter patch. ** Attachment added: ifconfig.patch http://launchpadlibrarian.net/15320383/ifconfig.patch -- Ifconfig uses incorrect units https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/240073 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs,