I concur with Christian, et al. This defect is *NOT* fixed, and should
*NOT* be falsely marked as Fix Released.
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On Wed, Dec 10, 2008 at 03:48:44PM -, Noel J. Bergman wrote:
I concur with Christian, et al. This defect is *NOT* fixed, and should
*NOT* be falsely marked as Fix Released.
The original problem, which I reported and analyzed, has been fixed. If you
are having a problem with your hotkeys,
There are a whole bunch of bugs related to Thinkpad hotkeys at the
moment - I don't know if they all stem from the same ultimate issue. It
is possible that these represent symptoms of the same bugs or multiple
independent bugs, some old bugs that have been fixed but re-appeared
recently, and that
I'm having the same issue with my IBM/Lenovo T60p laptop.
Fn+F2 (lock) not working
Fn+F3 (bat) not working
Fn+F4 (sleep) not working, works with kscreensave runing
Fn+F5 (wifi) works
Brigthness buttons work but don't show the GUI
vol up and down are working with gui
vol mute mutes the sound but
Similar regression with 8.04. Are these related via the same kernel
issue?
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.22/+bug/125881
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/217504
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I guess this is a KDE4 issue for me - fixed it by installing kpowersave.
The process gets as far as acpid running 'fake_acpi 142', which opens
/dev/input/event1 and writes some data to it. Somewhere the event is
being silently dropped between Xorg and KDE4.
With kpowersave running, I can suspend,
I can confirm this problem. IT appears to be a kernel issue. The fn keys
for brightness, bluetooth and wifi work fine for me. fn-f4 (suspend)
will only work if I do modprobe -r thinkpad_acpi as noted above. The
issue also occurs if I switch to a console, so it would appear to be
some kind of
i can confirm it also on my ibm thinkpad x40
only Fn+F5 owrking (turning on and off bluetooth and wifi)
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I have a Inspirin 1420 and the problem it's not fully fixed for me...
some the buttons now work (multimedia keys), but I have to keep them
pressed for about 1~2 seconds or else they dont work
i have instaled the latest update to the hal package (0.5.11-4ubuntu2)
I still can't use FN+ESC
On Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 04:35:24PM -, Angelo Bernardi wrote:
I have a Inspirin 1420 and the problem it's not fully fixed for me...
some the buttons now work (multimedia keys), but I have to keep them
pressed for about 1~2 seconds or else they dont work
i have instaled the latest update
Sorry for breaking the party, but the problem remains in Kubuntu (under GNOME
all keys work fine).
Kubuntu 8.10 beta with all upgrades,
Thinkpad R61i.
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On Fri, Oct 10, 2008 at 06:44:39AM -, Katsudon wrote:
Sorry for breaking the party, but the problem remains in Kubuntu (under GNOME
all keys work fine).
Kubuntu 8.10 beta with all upgrades,
Thinkpad R61i.
Please file a separate bug about that.
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I've opened bug 280646 about the brightness issue, since it seems to be
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Yes, Aurimas's workaround for brightness keys works on my Thinkpad r61i,
however changing of brightness is really slow compared to it in Hardy
(about 1 unit per second), so this problem seems to be relevant...
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I was asked to upload this fdi file, so that we have a workaround for
intrepid, in time for beta.
I'll ship it in -input-evdev to do the right thing wrt. backports to
hardy.
** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-evdev (Ubuntu Intrepid)
Sourcepackagename: hal = xserver-xorg-input-evdev
Assignee:
Whoops, right. hal already ships the fdi for enabling input hotplug in
the first place, so backports of hal will be broken either way. Let's
keep it in hal then.
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This bug was fixed in the package hal - 0.5.11-3~ubuntu9
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* debian/10-x11-keymap.fdi: Disable -evdev for the ThinkPad extra buttons;
-evdev currently exclusively grabs that input device without properly
passing it on. This
Closing the acpi-support task since fixed in hal. (For Jaunty we'll
probably focus on getting acpi-support out of involvement for this
anyway.)
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Matt, could you post your lshal output to this bug (if you haven't
already - I couldn't see it)?
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Over the weekend, I will:
- Look at a ThinkPad running 8.04 and figure out which path the hotkeys used to
take
- Try to get the same setup working on another ThinkPad running Intrepid
- Send lshal output from both systems
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I have a Thinkpad X61 running Hardy, and a Thinkpad T61p running
Intrepid. I'm posting the lshal data from each.
I can confirm that the Suspend button (fn+F4) works on Hardy, but does
not work on Intrepid. I can also confirm that `sudo acpi_fakekey 142`
works on Hardy, but does not work on
With some help from Dustin Kirkland and Julien Cristau on IRC, I have a
working theory for what's causing this:
Hardy: kernel acpi event - acpid - /etc/acpi/*btn.sh - acpi_fakekey
- /dev/input/eventX - hald-addon-input - hald
Intrepid: kernel acpi event - acpid - /etc/acpi/*btn.sh -
acpi_fakekey
Assuming these events are going via the ThinkPad Extra Buttons device,
Timo's FDI file seems like a reasonable way to get the current setup
working for Intrepid. I'm attaching it here to avoid digging through
the comments for it again.
There seem to be two outstanding issues though:
- Some folks
Found out how to fix Brightness Up/Down keys in my account based on Marc's idea:
1. rm -rf .gconf/desktop/gnome/peripherals/keyboard/host-`hostname`
2. Set System-Preferences-Keyboard-Keyboard model = Evdev-managed keyboard
3. edit ~/.Xmodmap and remove keycodes 233/234 (if there are any
Thanks Aurimas,
This worked for brightness on my X61s, too. This workaround also brought
back FN+F2 (locking the screen).
Thx Peter
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Thx @ Matt for the fdi File.
With these two workaround I can use all the functionality I used in
hardy. Thanks again.
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fwiw, brightness keys here have been working for me all along - but they
aren't generating ACPI events (nor are the volume up/down keys), and
nothing in GNOME handles them; they appear to be acting at the hardware
level. This is suboptimal, but at least in the case of the brightness
keys it's not
Here is some info about the Fn-F4 sleep button and ACPI, see message 34:
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=467374#34
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For me Timo's proposed /etc/hal/fdi/policy/thinkpad.fdi restores
Fn-F{2,3,4,12}, however, brightness Up/Down still don't work in my user account.
@Steve Langasek:
Sleep and Hibernate keys both have the delay (60 s or so), it is normal, I
remember
reading it on some Thinkpad R50 documentation a
On my T60 Timos proposed thinkpad.fdi made Fn-F 2,3,4 and 12 working again.
Brightness Up/Down never stopped working.
I don't have any delay after hitting the sleep or hibernate keys.
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Steve: I think it's a valid workaround at least for Intrepid unless a
proper fix is found in time.
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On Thu, Sep 25, 2008 at 01:45:42AM -, Steve Langasek wrote:
Matt does this match the behavior you see if you use the above
thinkpad.fdi?
Before adding FDI:
Fn+F2 (lock screen): doesn't work
Fn+F3 (battery): doesn't work
Fn+F4 (suspend): doesn't work
Fn+F5 (RF kill): works
Fn+F7 (detect
Timo, why don't you commit this workaround for Intrepid?
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Here's the fdi file to disable evdev from grabbing the device:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
deviceinfo version=0.2
device
match key=info.capabilities contains=input.keys
match key=info.product contains=ThinkPad Extra Buttons
merge key=input.x11_driver
I'm happy to report that Timo's proposed
/etc/hal/fdi/policy/thinkpad.fdi file works on my system as well,
restoring Fn-F{2,3,12} to working order under my normal account. Fn-F4
(sleep) does not appear to work - so the delta here for me is that
Fn-F12 (hibernate) has started working.
Fn-F4
Martin, at this point this behavior is also consistent with or without
acpid running (though I didn't uninstall it, here).
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I was able to identify that ~/.gconf or ~/.gconfd directories were
responsible for this. Once they were removed, from my home directory,
the hotkeys started working again.
Hope this helps someone.
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On 23.09.2008 19:16 Marc Jauvin wrote:
I was able to identify that ~/.gconf or ~/.gconfd directories were
responsible for this.
This is wrong as your home or /etc/ directory is reponsible for this.
The GConf directories contain configuration information for your
applications. You should rather
I prefer to lose those settings and get back the hotkeys. It's a matter
of minutes to redo those settings anyway. If someone wants to have fun
with those keys, go ahead, at least we know a little bit more where to
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On my T42 (2379-R5U):
Fn-F4 (suspend to RAM) and Fn-12 (hibernate) started working as a result
of removing the packages Martin Pitt mentioned. The power button and
lock screen combo (Fn-F3) were working beforehand (and still do).
Fn-F5 (wireless toggle) doesn't seem to be working anymore
When some people reported some of the hotkeys working as guest user, I
decided to try to delete my home directory, logout and log back in, and
suddenly, some of the hotkeys work again.
- Fn-F2(Lock): does NOT work
- Fn-F3(Battery): does NOT work
- Fn-F4 (Suspend): works
- Fn-Home/Fn-End
Correction: Fn-F2 (Lock) works from a clean home directory.
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well comparing with acpi-support 0.110 (not 109), 111-pre1 changes
nothing
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Situation on Thinkpad R61i, Kubuntu, Intrepid alpha 6
Fn+F2 (should lock the screen): does nothing
Fn+F3 (battery state): does nothing
Fn+F4 (should suspend to RAM) : does nothing [worked fine in Hardy]
Fn+F5 (should toggle wireless connections): seems to toggle bluetooth, does not
toggle wifi
On my T61p with acpi-support_0.111-pre1_i386.deb:
Fn+F2 (lock screen) - works
Fn+F3 (battery) - does not work
Fn+F4 (sleep) works
Fn+F12 (hibernate) - does not work
Brightness Up/Down - dims and brightens but no GUI brightness scale support
(GUI only appears whe un-/plugging power)
Linux
Just to collect some data here: It would be interesting to know what
happens if we entirely remove acpi-support and acpid. Nowadays hal has
tons of FDI files for pretty much the same purpose, so at some point
those two should just disappear completely. It works fine on my Dell
Latitude.
For
@Martin Pitt
tired what you suggested, but after reboot none of these keys work:
Fn+F2, Fn+F3, Fn+F4, Fn+F5, Fn+F12, BrightnessUp/Down
but i guess it wasn't unexpected, as my Thinkpad is custom made [T61
(7659-Y7H)] so it is very unlikely
that it is added to any FDI file.
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tried Ubuntu 8.10 alpha 6 LiveCD:
hotkeys Fn+F2 (lock), Fn+F4 (sleep), Brightness Up/Down
work there.
What is interesting, is that
if I log in/switch to a newly created user, same hotkeys
work there. Using acpi-support_0.110 (same happens when
using acpi-support_0.111-pre1).
What could prevent
@jojo, thanks for testing, however what we need to know is how behaviors
changed - does 111 work the same, better, or worse than 109?
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I confirm that if I log to the guest user, Fn-F2(lock) and Brightness-
up/down work, but sleep (Fn-F4) does not work.
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I spent some time today porting in some changes from Debian to acpi-
support:
http://bryceharrington.org/ubuntu/ACPI/
We seem to be the upstream for this package, yet have not been keeping
it up to date with Debian's changes. This update includes a
cherrypicked set of fixes that look relevant
Tried updated (0.111-pre1) acpi-support, but hotkeys:
Fn+F2 (lock screen)
Fn+F3 (battery)
Fn+F4 (sleep)
Fn+F12 (hibernate)
Brightness Up/Down
on Thinkpad T61 still don't work.
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Just a heads up to folks, I'm tracking this down and will report back
here when I find something.
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@E_rulez, thanks for testing it. There's more that could be pulled in
but I'll wait until Ben's had some time to investigate.
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Target: intrepid-alpha-6 = ubuntu-8.10-beta
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Hm, I still have thinkpad_acpi loaded and now after resume the Fn-F2
(lock) works.
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Something's not right in the analysis, here; these are keys that worked
fine in hardy, whereas bug #217504 is clearly a bug reported /against/
hardy. Has the KEY_MAX value been changed in later kernels, or why else
is this thought to be the same bug?
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@Bryce perhaps you should talk to Richard Hughes at freedesktop.org about this.
He has some
interesting pages about HAL.
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/quirk-keymap-intro.html
http://people.freedesktop.org/~hughsient/quirk/
http://hughsient.livejournal.com/29730.html
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@Bryce: I mean talk to Richard Hughes about how to rework the whole
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@Bryce: I'm not sure I understand what people mean by guest session. It's not
just a different user account is it? Why would that make a difference? Unless
you're talking about higher level
On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 02:11:33PM -, registername wrote:
@Steve for me this was broken in Hardy with a Thinkpad. Perhaps people who
reported it working in Hardy could give more info.
What info is needed?
Or did they mean Gutsy or earlier?
No, it has been stated from the beginning of the
On my Thinkpad T61, Fn-Home (brightness up) and Fn-End (brightness down)
don't work either and the other Fn still doesn't work until now
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@Steve for me this was broken in Hardy with a Thinkpad. Perhaps people who
reported it working in Hardy could give more info.
What info is needed?
I mean, we know from bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/217504 that
acpi_fakekey has
been broken since 2.6.24 was introduced, i.e. Hardy. So I
It's 152 that is lock, not 154. That has started to work for me suddenly
both by hitting Fn-F2 and with acpi_fakekey.
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Sorry that was a typo from me, I did try 152 for lock.
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On Wed, Sep 17, 2008 at 12:00:37AM -, registername wrote:
Just to be clear: this is not a kernel bug -- the behaviour was changed
deliberately in 2.6.24. Hardy should not have been released using acpi-
fakekey in /etc/acpi scripts. And neither should Intrepid.
You're talking about a
Is this bug the same as the long-standing bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/217504 ? That one is
caused because the kernel now rejects the fake keypresses from acpi-fakekey if
they are beyond KEY_MAX. This is now by design so acpi-fakekey is dead -- it is
no longer a viable way to handle
On my Thinkpad T61, Fn-Home (brightness up) and Fn-End (brightness down)
don't work either.
And yes, this seems to be related to bug #217504 as registername
wrote.
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Just to be clear: this is not a kernel bug -- the behaviour was changed
deliberately in 2.6.24. Hardy should not have been released using acpi-
fakekey in /etc/acpi scripts. And neither should Intrepid.
How can a critical bug be assigned to nobody?
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If this is indeed a dupe of the old 217504, could someone verify that
the kernel fix mentioned in this comment solves it?
https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/217504/comments/58
I do agree in reading that bug, it sounds suspiciously like our culprit.
Thanks for pointing to
registername, thanks for your clarification. So sounds like the acpi
scripts need to be modified to not use acpi-fakekey for propagating
these events. What should they be using?
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@registername, also one question - if the kernel is no longer accepting
the fake keypresses, then how is it that the keys appear to work in a
guest sessions as described in comment #31, etc.?
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Bug 162895 reports a similar issue of hotkeys not working on thinkpads.
The reporter said that after removing the thinkpad_acpi module, the
laptop would suspend and resume properly.
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I confirm that doing a modprobe -r thinkpad_acpi makes Suspend (Fn-F4)
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Note: other hotkeys still don't work (Fn-F2: lock, Fn-Home: brightness
up, Fn-End: brightness down, etc)
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OK, seems after a Suspend-Resume cycle, Brightness-Up/Dn now works as
well.
Note: Fn-F2(Lock) still does not work, though.
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Bryce Harrington [2008-09-13 22:08 -]:
I've broken out the suspend key problem that I ran into as bug 269951.
Pitti, I believe that this is the issue you're running into. If you
could, please check your symptoms against what I described there and
comment either way there
Done. Thanks!
I've broken out the .Xmodmap problem slangasek had run into as bug
269619.
I've broken out the suspend key problem that I ran into as bug 269951.
Pitti, I believe that this is the issue you're running into. If you
could, please check your symptoms against what I described there and
comment
[Unassigning from timo since it appears to slangasek and I to be a
kernel issue rather than X.]
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