[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-04 Thread Michael Vogt
Why is there now a open task for every package manager we have in ubuntu? What exactly is the task for them here? -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292403 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-04 Thread Alexander Sack
i assume packagekit can --no-install-recommends. ** Changed in: packagekit (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: synaptic (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: smart (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-04 Thread Alexander Sack
all package tools that can --no-install-recommends are ok. ** Changed in: apt (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid ** Changed in: aptitude (Ubuntu) Status: New = Invalid -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292403 You received this

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-04 Thread Alexander Sack
** Changed in: adept (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Wishlist Status: New = Confirmed -- MASTER support to select apps without recommends in app-install-data https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292403 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Harald Sitter
http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html Recommends This declares a strong, but not absolute, dependency. The Recommends field should list packages that would be found together with this one in all but unusual installations. Suggests This is used to declare that one package

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Russell Ault
I'm not sure I quite understand why this is happening; ubufox is still just listed as a recommended and not a true dependency. Is the new apt-get default behaviour to install recommended packages as well? -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Alexander Sack
adding adept. setting firefox 3 to wont fix. if you think adept shouldnt add a hack for kde users thats fine. Its just nothing i will change in firefox. not installing -gnome-support will make a bunch of features disappear ... suggest is not good enough. similar to ubufox. its a core ubuntu

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Alexander Sack
as it simply best works with it ... - recommends. its more or less essential to get a complete firefox experience ... not an optional addon. political - kde is an unusual install as they dont have the gnome libs. we support that by not putting gnome stuff into firefox package, but in a

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Sel Goona
All we need is to remove ubufox as Firefox dependency. Ubunfox is anyway a completely unnecessary Extension. Firefox need ubufox, ubufox need apturl, apturl need synaptic ... an so on -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292403 You

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Harald Sitter
** Also affects: apt (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: aptitude (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: synaptic (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Also affects: packagekit (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Scott Kitterman
Since Firefox is part of the Ubuntu default install, how about (for Jaunty) dropping ubufox to suggests and seeding it directly for Ubuntu? -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292403 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Harald Sitter
We aren't sure about the affect on update-manager. [18:55:05] apachelogger JontheEchidna: would update-manager actually install the recommends? [18:55:22] -*- apachelogger isn't too sure about that [18:55:28] JontheEchidna perhaps if firefox got dragged in as a new package that needed to be

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Roderick B. Greening
I think we all need to realize there are differences between gtk as a toolkit and gnome as a desktop environment and what constitutes a reasonable requirement to have a strong relationship which forces one to install a gnome dep for an app which is supposed to be gtk based and desktop agnostic. If

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread James Westby
Alexander, you are proposing that every package management tool adds a special case to not install -gnome-support and ubufox when installing firefox and on kde? I'm not sure exactly what features these provide, but I would tend to agree with ScottK. If a KDE user installs firefox without

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-03 Thread Roderick B. Greening
The issue is that ubufox deps on apturl which in itself is a Gnome app and requires a lot of gnome deps. Instead, it would be better if ubufox had alternatives it could call for apturl (possibly install-package for KDE) and let either/or satisfy the dep in ubufox. So, this perhaps then is not a

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-02 Thread Alexander Sack
still incomplete. please provide me with the asked information (even though this is a MASTER now) ** Summary changed: - firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps + MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps ** Changed in: firefox-3.0 (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-02 Thread Greg Coit
The command sudo apt-get install --no-install-recommends firefox installs: firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding libidl0 libstartup-notification0 xulrunner-1.9 sudo apt-get install firefox installs: apturl docbook-xml firefox firefox-3.0 firefox-3.0-branding gamin gconf2

[Bug 292403] Re: MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps

2008-11-02 Thread Alexander Sack
adept should fix its install data then. ** Changed in: adept (Ubuntu) Sourcepackagename: firefox-3.0 = adept Importance: Undecided = Medium Status: Incomplete = Triaged -- MASTER firefox 3.03 in kubuntu 8.10 requires gnome apps https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/292403 You received this