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FYI - The fix has worked for some still under Karmic, but not for me. I
will wait until Lucid is released.
DELL LATITUDE D600
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2.6.31-21-generic fixed my E6400's erratic mouse. I've been using it for
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I've had karmic-proposed enabled since my system install and get them
regularly, but the ALPS DualPoint patch never appeared. Still have the
same problem.
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available in a few hours. Please test and give feedback here. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation how to
enable and use -proposed. Thank you in advance!
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DELL LATITUDE D600
UBUNTU 9.10 with proposed-updates
LINUX 2.6.31-20-generic
NAUTILUS 1:2.28.1-0ubuntu3
GNOME 2.28.1
FireFox 3.5.8
FireGestures 1.5.6
When using UBUNTU_JAUNTY, I get the same problems as described above
(log below) -- but with UBUNTU_KARMIC the problem has evolved somewhat:
-
sirald66,
Please test this in Lucid as this is the current development branch. Per
the kernel Engineer(stefan) the fix should be in lucid. Please respond here if
you still encounter it.
Thanks!
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I noticed the DualPoint TouchPad...lost sync messages in the output of
dmesg. I removed irqpoll from my kernel command line and rebooted, and
mouse movement (via either pointing stick or touchpad) is back to
normal. I'm using 32-bit Ubuntu 9.10 (Karmic) on a Dell Latitude D630.
Details:
* removed
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I declined the Lucid nomination because the fix is already released
there.
** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu Karmic)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Karmic)
Importance: Undecided = High
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Karmic)
Status: New = In
** Description changed:
+ SRU Justification:
+
+ Impact: With the special protocol which interleaves PS/2 packets with
+ ALPS packets when both the touchpad and trackpoint are used together,
+ both are unusable in a default installation.
+
+ Fix: The fix has been in debian for a while now and
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Thank you, Robert! Your instructions were very clear and helpful.
Some obvious touchpad bugs are clearly fixed on my E6500. I'll keep an
eye out for the other odd ones which were more sporadic, but so far, so
good.
For others attempting this on Jaunty, I'll point out:
- The referenced
I've been living with this horrible problem for a long time now. Is it
possible to apply the patch on Jaunty? I'd be willing to test if
somebody could walk me through the steps necessary.
Hardware: Dell Latitude E6500
$ uname -srmv
Linux 2.6.28-17-server #58-Ubuntu SMP Tue Dec 1 19:58:28 UTC
Download the patch file
mkdir ~/kernel
cd ~/kernel
git clone git://kernel.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ubuntu-jaunty.git (This take a while)
cd ubuntu-jaunty/
cp ~/alps-dave-2.6.31.patch .
patch -p1 alps-dave-2.6.31.patch
make oldconfig (Sit back and wait)
make prepare (Wait some more)
make (Wait some
In principle, the patch was engineered in a way that nothing changes for
old touchpads. Of course, you never know... I haven't heard of any
regressions yet.
- Sebastian
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Hi @all :-(
On the moment I'm on the lucid dev branch a DELL 4300.
Problems described @#154 still occur.
Testing which will work in Lucid... Will report back.
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GoofY,
the fix is not in Ubuntu yet.
Greets,
Sebastian
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OK, the patch is in mainline (2.6.33-rc1 as soon as it is released) now
it is for Ubuntu kernel guys to backport it to whatever kernel they are
using.
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Assignee: (unassigned) = Ubuntu Kernel Team (ubuntu-kernel-team)
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OK, the patch is in mainline (2.6.33-rc1 as soon as it is released) so
now it's up to Ubuntu kernel guys to backport it to whatever kernel they
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So something like:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=ISO-8859-1?
deviceinfo version=0.2
device
match key=info.product string=AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
merge key=xorg.ignore type=booltrue/merge
/match
/device
/deviceinfo
should do it? The setting is shown by lshal but it does not seem
The following in /etc/hal/fdi/preprobe seems to make the touchpad xinput
device disappear completely:
?xml version=1.0 encoding=UTF-8?
deviceinfo version=0.2
device
match key=info.product string=AlpsPS/2 ALPS DualPoint TouchPad
merge key=info.ignore type=booltrue/merge
@Antti: I have not tested this but Xorg should ignore devices for which
HAL sets property xorg.ignore=true. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/InputHotplug
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@Dmitry: Sort of both and more. The touchpad is getting in the way of
typing but also in the way of using the trackpoint. With Sebastian's
patch and when the touchpad is disabled with e.g. gsynaptics, things are
almost OK. But the touchpad gets re-enabled seemingly at random. And
even when it
Why do you want to disable the touchpad? Is it getting in your way of
typing? Or is it due to the current problems that Sebastian's patch
tries to resolve but it's not in Ubuntu's kernel yet? For the former, I
recommend looking into syndaemon program. For the latter adding
option psmouse
I'm totally on your side -- I'll talk to Dmitry to see if he would
include such a thing in the kernel, if not, I'll post a patch here once
we have a final version.
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@Antti: From what I can tell, this is not possible completely, as the
hardware itself merges the two datastreams to some degree. It would be
reasonably simple to disable the touchpad part and hardware tapping, the
buttons on the touchpad are a different issue. So if you can live with
the touchpad
@Sebastian: I would only want to disable the touchpad (movement and
tapping). Leaving the buttons is OK. Actually even better than complete
disable.
I've tried cardboard/plastic on top of the pad, I even opened up my
laptop in a desperate attempt to find a wire/trace to cut but no - the
touchpad
First a thank you for the patch to all involved. The karmic stock
kernel is really unbearable on Dell latitude E4300.
Has anyone found an easy reliable way to disable the touchpad
completely? I've tried gpointing-device-settings and gsynaptics but the
touchpad gets continuously re-enabled. Would
Hey i haven't updated my patch to the newest one, but has anyone tried
this with vmware. I'm having issues clicking now with the new patch.
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I'm confused. Which version of the patch do you run?
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On Mo, 2009-11-23 at 19:02 +, Robert Hau wrote:
Sebastian,
Here is whats going on. I have run my VMware Windows VM lately.
I ran it after installed karmic, and all worked fine. I recently turn
it back on and the mouse won't click anywhere, and the mouse doesn't
seem to track like it
Correction this seems to be related to a java problem that caused
stranger behavior, rebooting solved it.
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@Mark: Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot to mention that this patch is against
upstream Linux. Please find attached a patch against karmic's kernel
source.
** Attachment added: Submitted patch, rearranged to apply to karmic kernel
@Sebastian:
I applied your patch to vanilla 2.6.32-rc8 and since then have been
playing around a little bit. On an E5500 I tried using pad and stick at
the same time, mixed button usage like mad and used the pad to scroll
but did not encounter any issues at all.
Thanks so much for providing this
I'm unable to apply your latest patch, Sebastian.
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Dave's patch seems to have solved my double-click problem (after testing
for a few hours). I'm guardedly optimistic!
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Sorry, I haven't been very responsive this week.
I have been in touch with Dmitry Torokhov who maintains the Input layer
for Linux. He suggested a few changes, and I wrote a new version of the
patch based on his suggestions. It also has a variant of Dave's 'button
router'. This is now on the
Ug. So nobody's seeing the double-clicking problem? I've had a hard
time getting some usable output from /var/log/messages, but it looks
like it's registering a second click when I use the lh pad or lh stick
button:
Nov 18 13:08:38 nightfall kernel: [54580.133189] alps.c: weirderbit: 0
Nov 18
I wrote this mini HOWTO for people without kernel compilation know how.
It's very easy, just apply those steps, I took care for everything else
(I hope). :) I'm attaching the latest version of our patch - it was
written by Sebastian and me. There is still one hidden hiccup, HW-based,
which we
@charles: Hello Charles, the latest patch I just submitted fixes this
behaviour. I noticed it too, in a different way, but I think I know what
you mean. The patch is still being worked on; the button merging
algorithm which is responsible for the double clicking was the most
straightforward way to
HOWTO update1: The patching line:
# patch -p1 -b /usr/src/alps-dave-2.6.31.patch
refers to the patch uploaded as part of the HOWTO post and saved earlier
by you into /usr/src/. I forgot to mention this implicit step, but I
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On Mi, 2009-11-18 at 22:06 +, Dave wrote:
I wrote this mini HOWTO for people without kernel compilation know how.
It's very easy, just apply those steps, I took care for everything else
(I hope). :) I'm attaching the latest version of our patch - it was
written by Sebastian and me. There
Guys,
I finally got my e6500 back from dell repair. My laptop had 3 buttons on
the trackpoint and 2 for the touchpad.
i remember when i was playing with this before, after upgrading to 9.10
i saw some errors in the background, but never had a chance to capture
them. I checked all of the
Ok, so Thanks to Charles, I managed to re-compile the git and get my
psmouse.ko file. The mouse seems much better. I still see during reboot
the errors above.
usb_id[818]: unable to access
/devices/pci:00/:00:1a.0/usb3/3-1/3-1.2/3-1.2:1.0/input/input6/event6
usb_id[819]: unable to
On Di, 2009-11-17 at 13:08 +, Robert Hau wrote:
Guys,
I finally got my e6500 back from dell repair. My laptop had 3 buttons
on the trackpoint and 2 for the touchpad.
i remember when i was playing with this before, after upgrading to 9.10
i saw some errors in the background, but
My system is affected by this, but for some reason, right now, I woke up
my laptop, and the flakiness is gone.
I have a feeling if I re-boot, things will go back to normal (normal
means, it will do all the things already described here...)
My touchpad cursor is moving slower than usual, all
@James: That happens after a lot of desync issues. The kernel module
reverts to proto=bare. You can replicate this behavior on a running
system by issuing the following commands as root:
# modprobe -r psmouse
# modprobe psmouse proto=bare
You can also modify your Grub config to get this at
After two full days of using the patch, most of my problems are all gone - it's
been great. BUT:
Has anyone else noticed a 'double-click' issue? I've been having a tough time
hitting a single click on the RH button - I end up grabbing/resizing window
when I try to bring it to the front,
@Sebastian: The patches work for me! Fantastic!
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OK, from scratch. These three patches, applied in sequence should fix
most of the problem, including the locked mouse buttons chaos.
--- They don't fix --- the three-button combo of death (e.g. press three
buttons and move the touchpad). I've been thinking about it and there
just seems no way to
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Hello Sebastian, I had to give it a rest for a day and a half. I hope to
start coding tomorrow.
If you don't mind, I'll be working on the vanilla .31 kernel source +
your first 9p extension. It seems the cleanest and I have nice packet
dumping integrated. :)
One extra thing I found, which caused
On Sa, 2009-11-14 at 17:52 +, Dave wrote:
Hello Sebastian, I had to give it a rest for a day and a half. I hope to
start coding tomorrow.
If you don't mind, I'll be working on the vanilla .31 kernel source +
your first 9p extension. It seems the cleanest and I have nice packet
dumping
@Sebastian -
WOW. I applied your patches installed the modified module about an hour or
so ago, and have NOT seen the button lock problem yet (although I haven't been
using my machine too extensively in that time).
So far, it also appears that my touchpad is registering scroll commands
(along
@Sebastian: I guess I didn't make myself clear. Typical usage is
Stick+Pad are OR'd by the X in the core pointer. As you say. The point
of the state machine (it's a s.m. only theoretically, it's very simple
actually and there won't be any corner cases) is to *emulate* two
independent mice when
While I'm hunting for the complete 9p flag, consider this. I think we
might be able to emulate two independent mouses. When Stick button is
pressed, we remember it and until released, do not report this button in
the Pad events. When Pad button is pressed, we remember it, and until
released, do
Wow, that's a huge load of research :-) If we keep pushing like this, I
think we can nail it.
About X11: X11 does support multiple independent mice. It does have a
so-called 'core pointer' which most apps use, and which is all the mice
merged together. But there should be a few apps around
(I'm just working through your messages, so please don't be offended if
I'm stating something stupid *g*)
IMHO there must be a way to tell apart a 6-byte packet with all buttons
set from a 9-byte packet; this of course must be in the first 6 bytes of
the packet.
BTW, your post in message #79
@Charles: Thanks for confirming that there's still a weird condition in
the two-buttons model. It's not a top priority at the moment, but of
course we'll need to find out why that happens, too. Can you provide a
'dmesg' log with the logging patch applied when it happens? I've been
struggling to
Guys,
Is there anything I can do to help. I'm really interested in testing the
psmouse.ko, but I don't have an understanding how to use it or implement it.
RH
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That being said, we still need a way to recognize fake 9p's on M4400's.
@Bystanders: Sorry for the spam, I hope we'll arrive at a reasonable
driver at least in exchange for all that nonsense mails being sent.
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@Robert: You shouldn't replace your mouse module in /lib just yet. You
can load a modified .ko by unloading the unmodified one (rmmod psmouse)
and loading the one in your homedir by insmod some/path/psmouse.ko.
@Dave: OK, im officially giving up. My hardware reports button one as
pressed in a
@Sebastian(#112): Unless the fake 9p is related to the button state
issue, I don't think it's vital that we differentiate 9p and 3 actual
button presses. Unless people a) Actually need to press all three at
the same time or b) accidentally do this occasionally.
Has anyone tried to contact Alps
Could any of the be caused by these mouses are supposed to be multi-
touch devices.
RH
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Sebastian,
I tried what you suggested and i can to the rmmod no problem but the insmod
errors when i try to use the psmouse.ko that submitted. Is it specific to the
kernel he ran at the time.
insmod: error inserting '/home/rhau/Downloads/psmouse.ko': -1 Invalid
module format
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@Sebastian - I'd be happy to test the button-locking problem I'm
observing. I'd be most grateful if Dave can post the compiled
psmouse.ko module with that patch - that simplifies things greatly for
me.
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You
I don't know if it's been mentioned yet, and I hope that I'm not
misunderstanding you, but there's no reason to recompile the whole
kernel just to apply a patch to a single module. Get the source for your
kernel, copy the config file from the boot directory, copy the
Modules.symvers from the
@Robert: Not sure what you mean by multi-touch device. At least from
data it currently sends (in the mode it's put in by the driver), you
can't get more than one position.
W.r.t. your insmod question: Seems like you have to recompile your
kernel with the patch applied. There's no way around it
I can confirm that Sebastian's patch solves the lost sync issue on my
Dell E6400. Great work! But I'm still having the same problem as Erik
mentioned in comment #81. However, I don't get any lost sync events.
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Robert, get and apply Sebastian's patch - it fixes this erratic, mildly
destructive, behaviour.
I'm uploading the fixed module (psmouse) in case you don't know how to
apply a patch to the kernel and make a package. You'd have to use the
same Ubuntu kernel version as I do, though! It's the latest
Robert, one more thing. If you want your settings permanent, to remain
even after reset, mouse disconnect, etc you have to apply them via HAL.
It is very easy, you've done the hard part already.
Just use gsynaptics or whatever and set your parameters. Then use
synclient -l to list all properties
@Dave - Thanks for uploading the patched kernel module. Unfortunately, it's
not working for me - I'm getting the following error on insmod:
insmod: error inserting 'psmouse.ko': -1 Invalid module format
And /var/log/messages reports
Nov 12 12:12:58 nightfall kernel: [ 4859.142421]
I'm sorry guys, I can't reproduce the buttons bug. Is there any syslog
messages when this happens?
Which application are you seeing this behaviour in? I tried Firefox and
Nautilus, both under Metacity. No luck.
That being said, even if this bug really is to blame on the Alps driver,
the patch
@Charles: Yes. PAE extension isn't harmful, you can use it just as well.
It only allows more than 4GB RAM on a 32bit machine.
@Sebastian: I sort of debugged the problem, it's definitely the driver,
not X or WM. Try following:
Exit X (so your /dev/input devices are not grabbed) and run (from
@Dave Can you please try the attached patch on top of the original one
and send me the output of dmesg|grep alps after it happened.
Cheers, Sebastian.
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@Dave - Thanks, I got it. I'm running the pae kernel now, and have
successfully installed the patch. I haven't had a lost-sync moment yet.
I just need to do some configuration so my scroll is a bit more
consistent, and I should be in good shape.
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I think this might have something to do with my other (and last) issue -
the ALT+left/right move/resize windows one. With some button events not
getting delivered OR being delivered as coming from a different device
than actually generated them...
Because that's exactly what happens to me:
A)
Moving Stick/Pad pointer spews just this:
[112187.964927] alps.c: report ps2 pkt 0
This is the sequence of packets doing +PadLeft, +StickLeft, -StickLeft,
-PadLeft:
[112192.799333] alps.c: report pad pkt 1
[112192.799337]
[112196.169118] alps.c: report ps2 pkt 1
[112196.169122]
Packet dumps now? :)
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Sebastian,
I've uploaded a Youtube video demonstrating the bug. I'm certain that
I'm only using your patch, as I performed a clean installation before
doing my testing. I'm using an m4400, which seems to have the same
Dualpoint. You're right that the patch is a vast improvement, but the
I should add that I'm using Compiz in the video, but the same behavior
exists with Metacity.
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Question regarding installing the psmouse.ko.
I read someone where you can put the file in
/lib/modules/2.6.31-14-generic/kernel/drivers/input/mouse and replace
the psmouse.ko Is that true. I tried with my install and i lost my mouse
completely on reboot.
Does the psmouse.ko have to match the
I watched the behavior on you-tube, and i can confirm the behavior as
well.
It seams that the trackpoint mouse has a click to the trackpoint by
itself.
It almost seams likes its doing a click-lock behavior.
If you gently move the trackpoint it doesn't lock for me. but i only use
the touchpad
I'm a bit on the opposite side as Robert - I only use the touchpad for
scrolling, and use the pointy stick almost exclusively. But I commonly
see the LH stick button lock on, and have to hit one of the other
buttons (generally LH pad button) to free it up.
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ALPS DualPoint Touchpad flaky
@Erik: WTF, you have three buttons on the Touchpad? I only have two on
the touchpad and three on the trackpoint. I'm not really surprised that
this breaks the driver as it is. We'll have to do further research on
your model.
[Background: 9-byte packets on my model are marked by having all three
Sebastian:
Correct, there are three buttons for each device on my Dualpoint. It's
actually pretty convenient, once you get used to it!
Thanks for all of your work and patience.
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ALPS DualPoint Touchpad flaky performance
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/296610
You received this bug
Robert: If I remember correctly, these devices are represented by two
input devs in the code, each with its own set of buttons. There was
something weird about how the buttons were represented in the 9-byte
packet, and what happened with the old patch was that the button state
for dev would
@Dave: Input layer is not guilty here. A release event for the dev2 is
not being sent, so the buttons sticks. This is a bug in the Alps driver.
Exactly, that's how I meant it. The driver doesn't translate all packets
into the input layer. Only 3 event are generated for those 4 packets.
BTW,
@Sebastian - No, I've got a Dell E6400 Latitude with the alps
touchpad/trackpoint combination.
@Erik - Perhaps I miscommunicated - I almost NEVER use the touchpad
buttons in any kind of normal operation, and have pretty well trained
myself NOT to touch the touchpad unless I scroll. Scrolling
Please apply the attached patch on top of the other two. I'd like the
complete output of dmesg | grep alps (since the init of the module,
please reload between tests) for the following:
1. Press all three touchpad buttons at once.
2. Use touchpad and trackpoint movement at the same time (which
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