Should be fixed in Maverick. (PackageKit and KPackageKit now do the
resolving) Can someone of the bug-reporters please confirm that it works
for them too?
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It works for me in Maverick.
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PackageKit allows applications to interact with the package
manager without knowing exactly what it is (yum, apt, zypper etc.)
What advantage has that in Kubuntu, since Kubuntu only uses apt/aptcc as
a backend?
Boot time security updates
I've never experienced this so far.
Installing files
Adept does not install plugins for applications or apps which can handle a new
file format automatically.
If I write an application, which installs e.g. a plugin automatically from the
repositories, I don't want any dependency on APT cause the application should
work on Fedora too. The solution
If this bug isn't going to be fixed this year, then I ask you guys to
please bring back Adept.
Even in 9.10 Adept still works awesome! And it's more user-friendly too. For
example, if a package fails to install, it gives an explanation to the user
what you can do to fix it.
Plus it's more
PackageKit has some great advantages over Adept, the Debian guys are working on
a better APT support at time.
I agree that PackageKit should give more feedback about the stuff it does. As
far as I know there already exists support for transporting log messages.
We'll see what the new versions
Alright, I believe you Matthias :)
One question though: what advantages does it have? Because I don't see
any advantages in KPackageKit in comparison to Adept.
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Basically, PackageKit allows applications to interact with the package
manager without knowing exactly what it is (yum, apt, zypper etc.).
It basically provides those advantages:
* Boot time security updates
* Installing files
Folks, I 've been trying Kubuntu Karmic for some weeks now and I really
like it. There are things still missing and some apps (e.g.: RKWard ,
Kjots , LyX and jockey-kde , usb-creator-kde, and more)
crash(ed) with no obvious reason to an end-user like me (while many of
them were working fine under
Adam Porter is right. Every release of kubuntu has been fundametally
broken in some way: in Intrepid I can't use my bluetooth mouse (and
wireless), in Jaunty I can't connect to my school wireless net, in
Karmic I can't update some packages with standard application. It's
ridiculous. I think Lucid
A Synaptic clone in Qt/KDE libs should be started years ago.
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So basically we will have a package manager which will be supported for five
years and in this time it will be unable to perform certain update operations.
I guess that someone without enough knowledge to execute apt-get or to use
synaptic will be very upset seeing how some updates remain
I'm going to go one further and propose that Kubuntu Lucid not be
released with anything less than fully-functional default package
manager and upgrade tools (the most fundamental system tool). If this
means that Kubuntu is released later than Ubuntu, so be it. It'd be far
better to release a
As a sidenode: PackageKit is a common layer on top of the native package
managers. The PackageKit backend used in Kubuntu is based on apt. So
nobody is rewritting something from scratch. This is nonsense.
Since the currently tracked 0.5 branch of PackageKit won't allow any API
changes this issue
I fully agree with Adam. In addition, I feel his argument is at the
crux of an inerrant problem with the decisions that Kubuntu 4.x
development made in general. Why rewrite most applications that worked
great to begin with? The new releases of Kubuntu applications have
broken or missing
It would be very nice if people could not nominate this for a specific
release. It does not speed up anything, indeed it slows down since these
false nominations clot the lists of actually fixable issue in those
releases. Thanks.
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Whenever problems like this arise in immature package management apps,
one can always fall back to apt-get or aptitude, smart, etc. They
work fine.
So, I wonder: where is the wisdom in replacing such mature, stable
systems with ones written from scratch that are intended to look
pretty? Don't
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Previously it was not possible to install even updates which would
require additional packages. So the linux-generic package could not pull
in new kernel images. But this is fixed in Karmic.
If you are a volunteer and have got a demanding daily work an half year
isn't much time.
For the 0.5
On Fri, Oct 23, 2009 at 04:26:51PM -, getaceres wrote:
Today I've found another blocked update because it needed to uninstall
two packages. We are past RC so I don't think this will be solved in
Karmic. Maybe it will be solved in Lucid, maybe not, who knows. Seeing
that all the efforts in
This is a bug reporting and not a trolling system. Please read the
reasons above why this is not supported.
I concur with your request for people to stop trolling; that is not
helpful.
However, I'm slightly confused as to where the reasons for not
supporting this are given. Could you please
I updated the description of the bug sometime ago. It should provide a
brief summary.
You have to make a difference for stable and development versions: It is
very unlikely that a security update of a stable release will remove an
already installed package. But this will happen quite often in the
Sebastian,
Thank you for explaining that. The preceding comments make much more
sense now.
I see now that all of this area generates a series of compromises.
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I'm sorry for my last comment. I know you are doing your job but I was very
upset because adept never worked as expected and now kpackagekit isn't working
either, so for two years there hasn't been a fully functional package manager
in Kubuntu and that's one of the obvious examples of Kubuntu
It is very unlikely that a security update of a stable release will remove an
already installed package.
I'm not convinced by this assertion. See how many times kernel updates are
mentioned in this bug report and in duplicates #347377, #374861, and #395022.
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I didn't think it was a great idea to change your package managerment
program before it was full tested and had no problem. Adept worked well
since last release, but you guys abandoned it and replaced it with a
not so much mature program.
Well, this bug was reported about six months ago, but it
I second Toni observation in comment #22, how this bug is going to
affect upgrades from Jaunty to Karmic?
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This bug has nothing to do in the upgrade to karmic process, upgrade is done
by some independent python scripts called from update-notifier-kde tool.
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Today I've found another blocked update because it needed to uninstall
two packages. We are past RC so I don't think this will be solved in
Karmic. Maybe it will be solved in Lucid, maybe not, who knows. Seeing
that all the efforts in kpackagekit in more than six months have gone in
adding some
I've had it with Kubuntu developers. They break previously working
functions, ignore the impact of their actions on the community and add
unnecessary puff to applications. I've pulled Kubuntu from all of my
systems. Better if the Kubuntu developers go work for Microsoft where they
can be
Today I've found two blocked updates in kpackagekit while all the
updates were installable in Synaptic (it just needed to remove a package
automatically and Synaptic detected it). I'm using an up to date karmic
and this bug is certainly not fixed.
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hello,
I have right buy new Quad core2 64 bits and installed the Kubuntu Karmic
beta1, 2.6.31-11-generic,
and i have many update to do after my first start but Kpackagekit or
synaptic wouldn't do while there say i have no privilege.
I am admin and i can only install by APT.
I hope to be
I'm not certain this is the same issue but I've installed Kubuntu 9.10
twice and each time I try and run the kpackagekit updates even
immediately after install it fails saying I don't have priveleges...
What gives, that's pretty basic.
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I'm using Karmic Alpha 6 updated to 23 Sept 2009 (kpackagekit
0.4.2-0ubuntu2) and it's still not fixed. Today I've found an update for
amarok which requires the removal of libtag-extras0 and the installation
of libtag-extras1. It was marked as blocked in kpackagekit while I could
install it using
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This bug has not been fixed. The packagekit update description even says
so:
Updates depending on the removal of a package are still blocked
Shouldn't this bug remain opened?
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Please fix this problem in Kubuntu 9.04. My customers are not getting a
warm fuzzy feeling from Kubuntu when they have to constantly move to the
newest release to get some bugs fixed while newer applications get less
functionality than previous releases!
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* New upstream snapshot provding a lot of APT backend improvements:
- Allow to install updates which require the installation of additional
Updates depending on the removal of a package are still blocked
So why was this bug marked as Fix Released?
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I changed the policy in the 0.4.x and 0.5.x branch of PackageKit. It
should be part of the next release. An open issue is kpackagekit since
it doesn't yet call GetDepends(~installed, IDS_OF_UPDATES) to present
the user a list of changes (e.g. additional packages that would be
installed). Dantti is
Is there anything in the progress to fix this bug? Just curious how
things are going...
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It might be this bug that is causing the following erroneous behavior:
- Update notifier comes up with 14 bug fixes and 6 blocked updates
- I checked from sudo apt-get update sudo apt-get dist-upgrade and it
wanted to INSTALL 6 and UPDATE 20
- This included the new kernel version to be installed
I'm seeing this problem with four kernel-related updates showing as blocked
when I click on the updater icon.
linux-headers-generic - 2.6.28.11.15 (amd64)
linux-restricted-modules-generic - 2.6.28.11.15 (amd64)
linux-generic - 2.6.28.11.15 (amd64)
linux-image-generic - 2.6.28.11.15 (amd64)
I just want to say a workaround for people suffering this problem:
1) Open terminal.
2) Run command: $ sudo aptitude update; sudo aptitude full-upgrade
And your system will be fully updated.
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Knowing how Ubuntu works this bug will not be corrected in Jaunty for
the stupid hard freeze in code, even for bugs. As Kubuntu is a second
class distro, let's hope that it will be corrected in Karmic. I suppose
that they will release a new tool to update from Jaunty to Karmic or
that they will
Karmic upgrade is not screwed as Adept, Synaptic, KPackageKit are not involved,
DistUpgrade python scripts are involved.
Anyway Kubuntu's crew has to start thinking and planning a bit better package
portfolio that DOES at least all that DOES the previous version and nothing
less.
And do not
I've found another kpackagekit bug. It can't install Meta Packages, such
as kubuntu-restrict-extras and ubuntu-desktop. I've opened another bug,
but nothing happened after that.
Am i the only person having this problem?
Bug #372256
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I can only repeat what previous posters said: this HAS to be high priority.
either that or adept should be the default package manager until it is solved.
for users that make it here and post a comment it probably isn't such a
big problem since they can figure out how to solve it, but i can
Another embarrassing Kubuntu version is released, waiting waiting waiting...
this is what every release we told us to do.
I thought that Adept 3.0beta4 was embarrassing enough but with this bug
compared to KPackageKit it might become e great software :(
Let's see what they will regress on 9.10,
KpackageKit is one of the prominent advertised features in Kubuntu. Not
being able to carry out half the things it's supposed to do is really
bad for Kubuntu reputation.
This kind of thing gives every user a problem they should solve (even
the ones who don't like problem-solving).
It should
If this is not fixed in Jaunty, how will Kubuntu Jaunty users be able to
apply updates that require removing or adding packages? How will they
be able to install packages with those requirements? This seems like a
major, critical regression.
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Kubuntu is again less ready then Ubuntu.
I use synaptic in kubuntu. And apt-get from the CLI.
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probably the same bug. I had to explain my gf how to install digikam
from the konsole.. but i doubt this will be fixed before 9.10, or will
it?
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I don't think so. We are now so close to release and new features aren't
implemented once a distribution has been released. I think that we will
have to wait to 9.10 to see a fully functional kpackagekit, although it
may be impossible to upgrade from 9.04 to 9.10 using it.
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maybe this is the same bug?
installing digikam konflikts with libgpod4-nogtk which is needed by
amarok
Using KpackageKit to install digikam after a fresh install of Kubuntu 9.04RC
you are forced to deinstall libgpod4-nogtk, which also deinstalls amarok. After
installing digikam libgpod4 is
I agree with Iwan. I find this of high importance considering Jaunty will be
released in a week and system updates requiring package additions and removals
fail and are blocked. I have been able to apply the updates using synaptic,
but that isn't installed to a system by default, KPackageKit
I noticed that this bug also occurs when simply pressing the update
notifier icon from within KDE4's panel. If any packages need to be added
for supporting an update, KPackageKit blocks it for no apparent reason.
It seems to me that this bug is very visible to all Kubuntu end users,
regardless of
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Actually PackageKit should have a better error message.
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+ By convention the apt backend doesn't allow to
Hi Sebastian,
Isn't this a bit of a design flaw in packagekit's naïve separation of
privileges then?
Have you spoken to Richard about it?
Thanks,
James
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