[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-31 Thread Ted Gould
** Changed in: indicator-applet Status: New = Invalid -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346159 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-22 Thread Ryan
Even the most well intentioned changes create an incompatibility, not only with how GNOME behaves by default, but with Debian and other Debian-based distros where DEB packages may have just worked. Instead of just doing all of this outside of the GNOME project and throwing Ubuntu's weight around

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-22 Thread Bruce Cowan
I find this hiding behind the HIG when GNOME programs (such as Empathy) don't actually follow it in the first place. -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346159 You received this bug notification because you are a member

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
There is no incompatible changes there only options and notify-osd has fallback icons in hicolor so it will work with any theme, you should move your false claims to some other forums now -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
crapplet is even breaking the Minimize to Tray plugin for Rhythmbox. do you really think that being insulting will make people consider your comments? the changes there have nothing to do with rhythmbox -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
you can also read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Jaunty/StracciatellaSession on how to use vanilla upstream behaviour -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346159 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Bruce Cowan
Ryan, please don't use language like that, it just angers people, making it much harder for them to read your reasoning. -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346159 You received this bug notification because you are a

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Ryan
Bruce: My reasoning is this, the Message Indicator (being polite) is a tweak that changes the user interface in a way that breaks standard GNOME behavior. This may be OK if Ubuntu wants to maintain out of tree patches for everything in their repository that wants to use the notification area,

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Ryan
@Sebastien It's quite easy to see how this wrecks Rhythmbox if you'll humor me. Open Rhythmbox, Edit/Plugins, select Minimize to Tray (grits teeth), exit that menu, and then click the X button (close), the plug in is designed to send it to the notification area instead of to close it, therefore

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
I've not read all you rant but the message indicator is an applet which is used by a specific lib, it has nothing to do with the notification area and rhyhtmbox got no distro change so whatever you have with rhythmbox is not the due this one -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Ryan
You can call it a rant if you like, I call it being angry that Ubuntu is becoming so untenable that I have just backed up over a years worth of data to go find something else to use, I'm sure that I won't be alone in feeling that this breakdown of usability is occurring. I thought maybe saying

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Bruce Cowan
I'm also sorry to see Ubuntu move in this direction, but a bug report is not the right place to change their mind. The mailing list is. ** Changed in: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Invalid -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Sebastien Bacher
you are welcome to use an another os but there is nothing in those change that you can't change to tbe intrepid behaviour, they are really simple configuration options -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/346159 You

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Ryan
So if you don't mind my asking, what do you have to remove to make GNOME behave properly? What settings, if any do you have to tweak? And please don't say Install fluff, because I don't do fluff. -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-21 Thread Andrew Starr-Bochicchio
Not that you're attitude makes me want to help you, but if you want Pidgin (which isn't part of GNOME btw) to behave the way you think it should. Simply go to: Tools - Preferences - System Tray Icon and change it to Always. No need to install or un-install any thing. Rhythmbox minimizes to tray

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-20 Thread Bruce Cowan
This is clearly a bad thing. ** Also affects: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: indicator-applet (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-20 Thread Brian Curtis
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. Unfortunately, we can't fix it because your description didn't include enough information. You may find it helpful to read How to report bugs effectively http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html.

[Bug 346159] Re: Closing or removing indicator-applet does not restore correct GNOME behavior

2009-03-20 Thread Ryan
1. I dislike the way that thing replaces Pidgin and Evolution icons instead of letting them reside in the notification menu, which is how GNOME should work. Removing the indicator applet from the GNOME panel does not restore the correct behavior, my guess is that the applications themselves