I have ssh on Björn Kautler's machine now (clean karmic) and took a look
at it. Keeping some notes:
* devkit-disks --mount /dev/fd0 - works (unmount, too)
* gvfs-mount -li- floppy appears as a volume
* gvfs-mount -d /dev/fd0 - works, floppy is mounted:
Volume changed: 'floppy0'
What that voice to text software does has nothing to do with Gnome or
KDE. Just go to a commandline and do mount /dev/fd0 if the line in
/etc/fstab is present for the floppy. If not, the command would just be
a bit longer, but that has the same effect when letting the voice to
text software do the
** Also affects: devicekit-disks (Ubuntu Lucid)
Importance: High
Status: Incomplete
** Also affects: linux (Ubuntu Lucid)
Importance: Medium
Assignee: Andy Whitcroft (apw)
Status: Invalid
** Also affects: udev (Ubuntu Lucid)
Importance: Medium
Status: Invalid
Besides that it is not true that there is no way to mount it, I have the
same problem and if needed I would provide root access for Martin to my
box for investigation. Just tell me if you need it.
@ John if you mount the floppy via command line it shows up exactly as
the voice to text software
Besides that it is not true that there is no way to mount it, I have the
same problem and if needed I would provide root access for Martin to my
box for investigation. Just tell me if you need it.
@ John if you mount the floppy via command line it shows up exactly as
the voice to text software
Splendid!
I appreciate very much, that something now is being done.
That was just not my observation after 4 different bug reports with a lot of
information (I myself had used more than 25 hours to investigate the bug).
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Ubuntu is on 2 desktops and one laptop as a stand alone O/S. MS only
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old computers and the use of floppies is a must for me. This includes
the 5.25 drives! I will be reverting the one desktop I upgraded to
9.10, back to 9.04
Ubuntu is on 2 desktops and one laptop as a stand alone O/S. MS only
exists inside Virtual Box on one desktop for testing reasons. I restore
old computers and the use of floppies is a must for me. This includes
the 5.25 drives! I will be reverting the one desktop I upgraded to
9.10, back to 9.04
Scott!
Your answer #111 to Antec is arrogant and impertinent!
We are the users!!!
A development team without a floppy drive ???.
Ubuntu clearly has build-in resources for floppies. How can a development team
then work without??? - That is one more critical bug!
This is very disappointing and
Torkil Olesen [2009-12-08 19:21 -]:
Scott!
Your answer #111 to Antec is arrogant and impertinent!
We are the users!!!
Right, but this is a bug tracker, and as such making comments _here_
which do not help to advance the state/debugging of this problem are
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I've a desktop with non-functional floppy available for ssh connections
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I sent IP address to both Martin and Scott thru email. I hope my emails
weren't delivered to spam boxes.
Cheers!
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Looking at /dev on 8.04 I see
brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 84 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1040
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 88 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1120
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 28 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1440
brw-r- 1 root
Looking at /dev on 8.04 I see
brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 84 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1040
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 88 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1120
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 28 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1440
brw-r- 1 root
Looking at /dev on 8.04 there are:
brw-rw 1 root floppy 2, 0 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 84 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1040
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 88 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1120
brw-r- 1 root disk 2, 28 2009-12-06 18:41 /dev/fd0u1440
brw-r- 1
The /dev directory in 9.10 seems to be missing all of the normal block
devices that have the associations for the different formats.
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This bugs is seams to affect both Karmic and Lucid! So I hope this can
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The rule to create those devices is still there, it must be failing to
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What is this help and fixit!!! If this is Lusid and carmic problem
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It is a problem to big? I don't sink that
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It is a problem to big? I don't sink that If you don't listen? It I a
big problem
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I work and my job take all migh time...but the ubuntu problrm is big
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Det är förbannat självklart att det här ska fixas annars är det rent av
åt helvete...En disketstation att den inte funkar i ett modernt system
är ren av åt helvete!!! Nu har jag sagt det
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!t seams them have 59 days to fix this bugWe people can see that we
have those wrong system!!!
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I think if they not fix this it is i big problem!!! in my country and i
live in sweden we use the floppy yetAnd my country is an iland
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We are in Europe Sweden is a country whith is 9 million people, and 1
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Antec: you really aren't adding anything to the bug, all you're doing is
annoying the users and developers who are subscribed to it.
We are aware that there appears to be a problem with floppy disk support
in the most recent version of Ubuntu.
However we have something of a difficulty obtaining
I can help but I most installing the Karmic in my computer, I have
Ubuntu 9,04 nowI installing Karmic tomorrow with floppy
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Now i have Karmic and the floppty. Please, i am not very god on this but
my computer is availably for anyone who is trying to solve this issue,
tell me how i can do? If you want, you can have my ip-adress an use this
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Scott,
I understand Antec's frustration with this list.
It seems that if we users do not *annoy* the great god developers, we
are ignored. I suppose that you think that if you do not answer us or
post some sort of arrogant rant that we will go away.
Not this time!
Thousands of us have
Today i going to an local service place and purchase an tp-cable how
going directly to the network.. If it is needed! And around my router
and directly to the internet! If it is needed my computer is fore anyone
who is trying to solve this issue!
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I can and i hope that is a help to solve this problem, i agree my
computer to solve this, it is importance that this bugs will be fixed,
if not we gonne see it in Lucid to
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OK, I'm afraid none of the logs really help me. I need to get ssh access
to a machine with a floppy drive and a floppy inserted, with admin
privileges. Can someone provide that?
Please install the third key from https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+sshkeys
, or send me an encrypted mail with the
OK, I'm afraid none of the logs really help me. I need to get ssh access
to a machine with a floppy drive and a floppy inserted, with admin
privileges. Can someone provide that?
Please install the third key from https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+sshkeys
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Martin Pitt wrote:
OK, I'm afraid none of the logs really help me. I need to get ssh access
to a machine with a floppy drive and a floppy inserted, with admin
privileges. Can someone provide that?
Please install the third key from https://launchpad.net/~pitti/+sshkeys
, or send me an
Has anyone examined the possibility, that use of floppy from GUI is
marked bad, in a way like sectors at a harddisk?
If the OS don't know, that a disk has been unmounted and another one
inserted, then the disk looks unreliable, because the data has changed
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The floppy problems seems not to be fix in 9,10 or 10,04sorry..
Ubuntu have to xl problem with Xorg! That problems take all the time...
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I seems this very confused! It is very laugh people who is don't
understand that!
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This needs a high priority/
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John. 9.04 works fine for me (both 32 and 64 bit), but not 9.10 or
10.04.
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John. 9.04 works fine for me (both 32 and 64 bit), but not 9.10 or
10.04.
I agree, 9.04 is better. 8.04 have also worked flawlessly for a long time.
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This bug it seems very big, it can be very triked to solve it. It's
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so your blkid output shows that blkid can detect it, and if you are able
to mount it with devkit-disks --mount, then I guess gnome is just
confused about the device not having any filesystem in udev (not knowing
that it can call FilesystemMount() nevertheless).
Can you confirm this with
Sergio,
so your blkid output shows that blkid can detect it, and if you are able
to mount it with devkit-disks --mount, then I guess gnome is just
confused about the device not having any filesystem in udev (not knowing
that it can call FilesystemMount() nevertheless).
Can you confirm this with
Sergio,
so your blkid output shows that blkid can detect it, and if you are able
to mount it with devkit-disks --mount, then I guess gnome is just
confused about the device not having any filesystem in udev (not knowing
that it can call FilesystemMount() nevertheless).
Can you confirm this with
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Sorry, I meant
gvfs-mount -oi /tmp/gvfs.log 21
Can you run that while doing devkit-disks --mount and attach
/tmp/gvfs.log?
So it seems that there are zero uevents when trying to mount the device,
which explains why the changed udev rule didn't gain anything. Does it
work if you keep the
Sorry, I meant
gvfs-mount -oi /tmp/gvfs.log 21
Can you run that while doing devkit-disks --mount and attach
/tmp/gvfs.log?
So it seems that there are zero uevents when trying to mount the device,
which explains why the changed udev rule didn't gain anything. Does it
work if you keep the
Here you have.
Just a note:
I gave all previous commands with the modified udev rules file
/lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules
Is that ok?
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I did
sudo udevadm trigger --action=change --sysname-match=fd0
but nothing happened and giving
devkit-disks --dump
there is still no file system info in floppy section.
Obviously no luck in opening floppy using GNOME.
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Me too. Using Places-either floppy drive, the light blinks for about a
second. Places-Computer then selecting a floppy, the light runs for a second
then Unable to mount location -- no media in the drive
Yes, either floppy drive -- my parents still have some 5.25s around and
so
Me too. Using Places-either floppy drive, the light blinks for about a
second. Places-Computer then selecting a floppy, the light runs for a second
then Unable to mount location -- no media in the drive
Yes, either floppy drive -- my parents still have some 5.25s around and
so
i have ckek the code
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It seems to be problem with gnom and kde and the floppy is to be fatal
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I tried changing /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules but after
reboot nothing changed, unable to mount from GUI and devkit-disks
--mount /dev/fd0 mounts floppy.
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If it can help, output of 'blkid -p /dev/fd0' is:
/dev/fd0: SEC_TYPE=msdos LABEL=PKBACK# 001 VERSION=FAT12
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From the udev side, everything seems to be okay. Sergios' dmesg has
[80538.492091] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[81237.645087] floppy0: data CRC error: track 5, head 0, sector 2, size 2
[81237.845784] floppy0: data CRC error: track 5, head 0, sector 2, size 2
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I have a icon for floppy (both in Places and in 'Computer' folder).
There is just one difference, double click from the folder gives me Unable to
mount no device media found, clicking on Places-Floppy don't give me any
information.
In both cases I get the same log from
devkit-disks
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Thanks. So dk-d knows about it, but does not know about the file system
on the device.
Does devkit-disks --mount /dev/fd0 work?
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So part of the problem would be that 60-persistent-storage.rules doesn't
probe for file systems on floppy devices.
I suppose devkit-disks --mount says Not a mountable file system?
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change
KERNEL==fd*|mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*,
GOTO=persistent_storage_end
to not have the fd* in it, i. e.
KERNEL==mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*,
GOTO=persistent_storage_end
Then udev should probe the floppy
Could anyone try this: In /lib/udev/rules.d/60-persistent-storage.rules,
change
KERNEL==fd*|mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*,
GOTO=persistent_storage_end
to not have the fd* in it, i. e.
KERNEL==mtd*|nbd*|gnbd*|btibm*|dm-*|md*,
GOTO=persistent_storage_end
Then udev should probe the floppy
It shouldn't be retrofitted into the normal persistent storage rules
like that, because we don't have media detection for floppies - and you
don't want the usual persistent symlinks for them anyway even if they
did.
Basically you really just want blkid run on it - if we have a floppy
present
It shouldn't be retrofitted into the normal persistent storage rules
like that, because we don't have media detection for floppies - and you
don't want the usual persistent symlinks for them anyway even if they
did.
Basically you really just want blkid run on it - if we have a floppy
present
Giving:
devkit-disks --mount /dev/fd0
it mounts floppy:
Mounted /org/freedesktop/DeviceKit/Disks/devices/fd0 at /media/floppy0
and creates another floppy icon called floppy0 that is browseable.
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Giving:
devkit-disks --mount /dev/fd0
it mounts floppy:
Mounted /org/freedesktop/DeviceKit/Disks/devices/fd0 at /media/floppy0
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It shouldn't be retrofitted into the normal persistent storage rules
like that
I agree. This is purely for testing, to see what else is missing.
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I'll try that tomorrow morning and I let you know, I don't have the pc
with floppy in this moment.
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I will try to see this problem with the computers knowledge:
Logical or idiotic, computers continue to do, what they have been ordered to.
In linux and unix it has been an order, that everything has to be mounted
before use and unmounted after use. The computer knows this, and if a floppy
disk
I will try to see this problem with the computers knowledge:
Logical or idiotic, computers continue to do, what they have been ordered to.
In linux and unix it has been an order, that everything has to be mounted
before use and unmounted after use. The computer knows this, and if a floppy
disk
I will try to see this problem with the computers knowledge:
Logical or idiotic, computers continue to do, what they have been ordered to.
In linux and unix it has been an order, that everything has to be mounted
before use and unmounted after use. The computer knows this, and if a floppy
disk
I will try to see this problem with the computers knowledge:
Logical or idiotic, computers continue to do, what they have been ordered to.
In linux and unix it has been an order, that everything has to be mounted
before use and unmounted after use. The computer knows this, and if a floppy
disk
I got an error, when trying to post the comment (do not know why), and
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I just want to comment, that my floppy drive works well in an updated
version of 9.04 to 9.10, but it does not work from the common GUI
interface.
See my description in Bug #485684
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the duplicate bug mentioned in recent comments indicate the devicekit-
disks interface has issues with the floppy drive too, seems rather a bug
in devicekit-disks there
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This bug affects Lucid Lynx too.
For more info and logs see duplicate bug #475500.
Could someone open two task against Karmic and Lucid respectively,
please?
Due to the fact that this seems to affect a quite large number of users I mark
it with high importance.
There are countries in which
Thanks Sergio Zanchetta, this bugs is in level high and i think so
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More and more Linux users are dropping microsoft alltogether and using
Linux as a stand-alone OS and needing basic functions to read and write
files on media such as 'floppy'. For some time Linux has been going from
a secondary OS to a solitary OS in its usage. floppy is an important
function to
The company i work on have 103 Ubuntu computers and 80 of them are
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS the rest is 9.04. We have four to test the new Ubuntu
9.10. If the 9.10 not work properly can we not upgrade any more
computers and we must wait and look on next LTS version and test them
very hard. OpenSUSE 11,2
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dmesg (after mounting with 'sudo gvfs-mount etc.')
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[Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)
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ls -l /dev/fd0
** Attachment added: fd0.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35978143/fd0.txt
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[Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)
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udev log
** Attachment added: udev.txt
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/35978240/udev.txt
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[Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)
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The device seems to be being detected correctly and udev informed as we
do get a /dev/fd0. So it seems either the device does not have
appropriate permissions, or the notification not being passed on to
higher layers, or indeed those layers may not be taking appropriate
action. Therefore adding
As the device is seen by udev and correctly created during the early
boot it does not seem to be a bug in the kernel. It may be a
permissions issue with the fd drive device as made by udev, or
alternatively an issue at a higher level:
KERNEL[1258912797.217841] add
Antec wrote:
The company i work on have 103 Ubuntu computers and 80 of them are
Ubuntu 8.04 LTS the rest is 9.04. We have four to test the new Ubuntu
9.10. If the 9.10 not work properly can we not upgrade any more
computers and we must wait and look on next LTS version and test them
very
Andy Whitcroft wrote:
The device seems to be being detected correctly and udev informed as we
do get a /dev/fd0. So it seems either the device does not have
appropriate permissions, or the notification not being passed on to
higher layers, or indeed those layers may not be taking appropriate
Andy Whitcroft wrote:
As the device is seen by udev and correctly created during the early
boot it does not seem to be a bug in the kernel. It may be a
permissions issue with the fd drive device as made by udev, or
alternatively an issue at a higher level:
KERNEL[1258912797.217841] add
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
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[Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/441835
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The attached udev log shows that a device was created
** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Invalid
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[Karmic] floppy is not working (Ubuntu 9.10)
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Scott James Remnant wrote:
The attached udev log shows that a device was created
** Changed in: udev (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Invalid
I don't know anything about how it was made, I just know it don't work,
so we will keep using older versions until it is fixed on the rest of
the
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