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On 23 Apr 2011, at 21:59, Patrick Scott 452...@bugs.launchpad.net
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On 24 Apr 2011, at 00:59, Patrick Scott 452...@bugs.launchpad.net
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 550824 ***
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 550824 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550824
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On 23 Apr 2011, at 05:19, Patrick Scott 452...@bugs.launchpad.net
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 550824 ***
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 550824 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/550824
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On 23 Apr 2011, at 15:15, Patrick Scott 452...@bugs.launchpad.net
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 550824 ***
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*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 550824 ***
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On 23 Apr 2011, at 03:58, Patrick Scott 452...@bugs.launchpad.net
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I don't need to run empathy to activate the me menu on any of my two
natty installations, so the problem you're seeing may be specific to
your set up.
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Oh dear, In that case I apologise for the confusion! I had seen
somebody else report the same issue I was having in bug 550824, so maybe
its an upgrade issue left over since Lucid or Maverick. I'll do a
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For what it's worth, both my natty systems are clean installs, so this
might be an issue with upgrades.
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I just did a clean install of Natty Beta 2 -x86 on an old spare hard
drive. I'm afraid I am still seeing the issue even on a clean install,
when I start ubuntu, the Change Status options in the Me Menu are
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No, I don't have empathy in startup applications.. Two other things that might
influence the behaviour of the me menu to some extent:
- I use automatic login, and my default keyring has an empty password
- I
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No neither of these changes worked for me, I'm afraid. Although I never
knew you could set a password keyring to blank, very useful!
I'm quite happy with my workaround to add empathy as a Startup
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Yup, but bear in mind that your passwords are stored as plain text,
which from a security point of view is a Bad Thing. About 'empathy -h',
watch you compiz options, see bug #765469.
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This bug is not a duplicate of bug 550824. These are two very different
issues. Bug 550824 is related to the 'Chat Status' change options
becoming disabled (greyed out) after the user changes uses the Me Menu
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@Patrick: that is not the case. You do have to open empathy *once* to
set up your accounts, but the me-menu remains active thereafter, even if
you close your session/reboot/etc. I don't think it would be
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I think our wires are crossed, of course I agree with you that accounts
need to be specified before the user can go online. My issue is that
every time I boot my machine I need to open empathy once per
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Once status is set to offline the me menu becomes disabled so can't be used
to go online
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If the MeMenu sets a symbolic flag for Presence, the next consumer for this
information on DBus should be selected in Preferred Applications in a new
section for Instant Messaging.
Perhaps somebody wants to set Skype as default application for making voice
calls!?
And the same somebody wants to
@clemmy:
There seems to be a misunderstanding. I'm not involved in any way with
the development, so please take those compliments back. :)
Anyway, like I said before, allowing the change of default chat app is
not trivial. The eog example you gave is just a matter of choosing which
app opens a
@Conscious User
Oh, of course I understand that there are some technical difficulties.. and the
solution I proposed maybe needs al lot of coding, so it is not easy to
implement..you can consider this feature as a 'whishlist', and maybe one day
you'll implement it! :-)
Maybe it easier to put
David Siegel wrote on 2010-03-29:#10
Think about what Available means -- the user who clicks on available
wants to be contactable. They don't necessarily want to see their buddy
list, they just want to be reachable via instant messaging.
I totally agree with this point.
It describes
@clemmy:
The ability to change the default chat application does not currently
exist and might not be implemented in any near future. From a
*idealistic* perspective, I agree with everything you said. From a
*realistic* perspective, it is important to consider the current
constraints.
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So, in which situation are we in? The current behavior of graying out
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On Tue, 2010-03-30 at 09:02 +, Conscious User wrote:
So, in which situation are we in? The current behavior of graying out
when Empathy is closed will be kept for Lucid?
Yes. Changing it would be too big of a change at this point in the
release cycle.
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We can do this, but user complained vigorously. In fact we did it. And
removed it. I don't think it's really possible unless we make the Me
Menu only work with one IM client only. Otherwise people who've
experimented with another one will get it launching continuously.
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I agree with Ted. My original report (Bug #528244), later considered a
duplicate of this bug, was more about the inconsistency between opening
Empathy for the first time and other times. Now that the status changing
is properly grayed out whenever Empathy is closed, I believe everything
is fine
I think people are rightly frustrated by what's going on here but are
proposing a solution that does more than necessary to solve the problem.
Problem: Users are frustrated by insensitive menu items, especially
when most of the Me menu is insensitive and it's not obvious why I can't
just click
If I click Available, sign me on but don't launch Empathy.
David, what exactly did you mean by that? I didn't understand.
Also, I can guess that users complained because the implementation tied
the Me Menu with Empathy and they used Pidgin. In my original report
(Bug #442603), I pointed out this
This feature truly defines 'social from the start'
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I mean, let me click Available is Empathy isn't running, and put me
online using Telepathy without launching Empathy. If someone sends me an
IM, empathy launches to display it.
Think about what Available means -- the user who clicks on available
wants to be contactable. They don't necessarily
In theory this is not a bad idea, but from the looks of your response it
seems that you are settled on the idea of tying the entire thing to
Empathy/Telepathy.
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On Mon, 2010-03-29 at 14:43 +, David Siegel wrote:
Ted, why did users complain?
The problem was largely based on the fact that we support both Pidgin
and Empathy. So if someone configured Empathy once, we'd end up
starting. We couldn't detect what someone really wanted with regards
to
I perfectly agree with David here.
Conscious User I don't see the problem of tying that to Telepathy.
It's like tying Totem to GStreamer. Telepathy is there specifically to
enable you to do that kind of stuffs.
As for the pidgin/empathy confilct, IMHO, pidgin will not be supported
anymore in a
from the looks of your response it seems that you are settled on the
idea of tying the entire thing to Empathy/Telepathy
Not sure how you read that between the lines, especially since I prefer
Pidgin to Empathy ;)
If we need to be able to tell which chat application the user prefers,
we may just
In my opinion, there is no need for extra complexity and I stand by what
I reported as Bug #548994: the status options, like the broadcasting
field, should simply not appear if no adequate program is running. This
way there would be no grayed out frustration.
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@David, my bad, I've got the wrong idea. It's just that your paragraph
revolved around Telepathy and Empathy, but I guess you were just using
them as examples.
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So, there are two relevant holes in the Me menu specification.
The first is that it isn't specific about which chat client it's
referring to. When we said the IM statuses section is present only if
you have set up any instant messaging accounts, we meant only if any
instant messaging accounts are
I've now added two test cases.
Test case: Set up a Facebook Chat account, and no other account, in Empathy.
Log out, then log in again. “Offline” should be checked, “Available” should be
sensitive, and the other IM status items should be insensitive.
Test case: Set up an XMPP
This missing functionality (by the way, the specification at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MeMenu seems to suggest it, at least in spirit)
also greatly complicates the process of discovering features involving
Social From The Start. It's turning into a jigsaw puzzle. The message
indicator has some
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At the moment the status icons are grayed out if empathy is not running.
this should be changed, a simple example is that when gwibber is not
running (accounts are set) and some text in typed in the MeMenu it
starts gwibber and broadcasts the status. So empathy should have a
similar behavior i.e.
Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. However, a paper cut
should be a small usability issue , in the default Ubuntu 9.10 install ,
that affects many people and is quick and easy to fix. So this bug can't
be addressed as part of the project.
this is a feature request so not a papercut
I agree. This was removed from Karmic as there was a desire to have a
Shutdown icon somewhere on the panel. Hopefully we can fix both of
these issues for Lucid. I talked with the Telepathy guys at GNOME
Boston Summit about this as well.
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