[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-10-06 Thread Daniel Stone
While hardware not detected is troublesome.. documentation on getting the wireless chip to work is documented. Ubuntu and linux often need modification to work or function as the end user would like( this is a known learning curve) The solution can be found easily because it is not just on

Re: [Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-10-06 Thread nUboon2Age
Hi Daniel, indeed the CL is how i solved my problem, but that is completely beside the point. We're talking about the User Experience bug on Jockey. Jockey is often ineffective in installing wifi, there's a bug written against it. end of story On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 7:28 AM, Daniel Stone

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-10-06 Thread Daniel Stone
** Changed in: new-user-experience-team Importance: Undecided = Wishlist -- Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/578970 You received this bug notification because you are a member

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-08-22 Thread nUboon2Age
@Alberto Milone wrote: Also you mention workarounds for the Jockey bug(s), such as the need to connect to the Internet some other way and run the script to work b43-fwcutter package or ndiswrapper or bmcwl sources. I would be glad if you could describe the exact steps that you followed to get your

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-19 Thread Alberto Milone
You said that Jockey fails in various ways. Can you explain how, please? Also you mention workarounds for the Jockey bug(s), such as the need to connect to the Internet some other way and run the script to work b43-fwcutter package or ndiswrapper or bmcwl sources. I would be glad if you could

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-19 Thread Vish
@nUboon2Age: Hi , I would argue that this is a bug and not a usability issue per-se . Yes it is troubling for a new user when stuff doesnt work out of the box. I dont disagree with that. But if this bug a usability bug , wouldn't that mean any hardware not being detected is a usability issue?

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-19 Thread Vish
@nUboon2Age: Also to note that we would be shortly announcing a few tags which are relevant to usability issues. You can follow this blueprint regarding the tags https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/design-m-heuristics-and-bugs -- Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-17 Thread NUboon2Age
@Vish, thank you for your response, but none of that info explains how we should address an Ubuntu User Experience bug, which we both know is different than writing a regular technical bug. It sounds like you are on the hundredpapercuts project, so it seems like you or someone you know would be

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-17 Thread NUboon2Age
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/item/12370/ Idea #12370: Developers with focus on user experience * Description * Report duplicate * Help promote this idea! Written by Madsrh the 20 Aug 08 at 10:54. Category: Look and Feel. Status: New Rationale As a desktop OS Ubuntu needs

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-17 Thread NUboon2Age
http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/24481/ Idea #24481: Proprietary drivers hard to install * Description * Report duplicate * Help promote this idea! Written by MasterNetra the 18 Apr 10 at 15:01. Category: System. Related project: Nothing/Others. Status: New Rationale My

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-17 Thread NUboon2Age
Solution posted to the above #4 Solution #6: Just fix the bugs in Hardware Drivers (jockey-gtk) Written by aysiu the 27 Apr 10 at 17:18. This already happens in theory. It just has to be implemented better. -- Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-17 Thread NUboon2Age
As Mark Shuttleworth wrote in Design, user experience and development at Canonical Wednesday, September 10th, 2008 There’s also recognition for the scale of the challenge that faces us. When I laid out the goal of “delivering a user experience that can compete with Apple in two years” at OSCON,

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-16 Thread NUboon2Age
** Summary changed: - user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver + Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver ** Description changed: - The user

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-16 Thread NUboon2Age
Architecture: i386 CurrentDmesg: [ 41.588441] ndiswrapper (iw_set_auth:1602): invalid cmd 12 [ 42.059314] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): wlan0: link becomes ready [ 52.256033] wlan0: no IPv6 routers present DistroRelease: Ubuntu 10.04 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 10.04 LTS Lucid Lynx - Release

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-16 Thread Vish
Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. However, a paper cut should be a small usability issue, in the default Ubuntu install, that affects many people and is quick and easy to fix. So this bug can't be addressed as part of this project. - This is a hardware specific issue , Not a

[Bug 578970] Re: Jockey user experience nightmare for installation of Ubuntu on machines requiring b43 and b43-legacy wireless driver

2010-05-16 Thread Vish
@NUboon2Age : Seems like you are new to launchpad , the branch linking and tagging other usability projects for a bug report is not the right way to do it. You may find it helpful to read How to report bugs effectively http://www.chiark.greenend.org.uk/~sgtatham/bugs.html. You can learn more