status rejected Hi,
Japs [2006-09-06 13:33 -0000]: > While trying to find out how to make it possible for any user to r/w > an ext3 partition i found out that you could manage the permissions of a > file system from its mount point's permissions. Or, in general, with setting the mode bits on files and directories with chmod/chown, or the graphical tools on top of it. > Talking about this in #Ubuntu chatroom, some users agreed that this > was a weird way to manage the access to a filesystem. It is not weird at all, that's how Unix file systems are designed to work. > We agreed that it would be much better to set up all permissions > from the fstab rather than from the mount point directory. Unix file systems are designed for protecting multiple user's files from each other. The old Windows file systems (FAT16 and FAT32) were not, they did not have the concept of owners and permissions. That's why you have to select a global mode for FAT, but not for ext3. > Standardizing the behaviour of file systems would make our lives > easier, don't you think? Demanding to drop the concept of permissions just to make a particular use case easier does not work. It would mean to totally give up the concept of multiple users on a machine and bring us back to the dark age of 'everything runs as and works as Administrator'. I think you are tackling this from the wrong side: If you do not want permissions and owners on a removable device, why do you use an Unix file system at all? You should format them as VFAT, which makes them nicely compatible with the Windows world, too, and does exactly what you want. That's also how most drives are preformatted these days. Thanks, Martin -- Martin Pitt http://www.piware.de Ubuntu Developer http://www.ubuntu.com Debian Developer http://www.debian.org In a world without walls and fences, who needs Windows and Gates? ** Changed in: Ubuntu Status: Needs Info => Rejected -- ext3 file system handling awkward https://launchpad.net/bugs/59027 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs