[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-07-01 Thread Colin Watson
It is really pretty trivial to add aptitude back if you want it - 'apt- get install aptitude' is not hard for those who can handle aptitude in the first place. Also, the mention of the server installation shows that whoever said it hadn't actually checked the maverick server installation - it's

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-19 Thread m4v
fixed links in bug description ** Description changed: Binary package hint: aptitude It has come to our attention that the developers want remove aptitude from the base installation again. Most of us that run a testing version use aptitude safe-upgrade, in order to not break the

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-18 Thread FreeUser
I use aptitude ALOT, especially to uninstall things. And from my experince it's MUCH better to solve dependices than apt-get, and at fixing broken packages. Also Debians, documenation prefers aptitude over apt-get, and I belive they have a good reasor for this.

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-13 Thread kozimodo
+1 for keeping aptitude. -- Removal of aptitude from base installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/592336 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-13 Thread lithorus
I find aptitude absolute essential. +1 for keeping aptitude -- Removal of aptitude from base installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/592336 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-13 Thread Doug McMahon
cariboo907 wrote I find aptitude with it's options is a very useful tool during testing, removing it will make the job a lot harder. Then just install it, it's not like it's been removed from the repo's The question is not whether aptitude has value (certainly does), but whether it needs to be

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-13 Thread Verstraete Linard
It should remain included in the base install, since aptitude has the value when things go wrong. If your system gets broken beyond just fixing a configuration file, when you loose your comfy graphical X-server, ... then aptitude's value is needed. And you (as a user for who fixing a broken system

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-12 Thread Iain Buclaw
Stephan, there are DVD installers available. And the 700MB CD-size should never be knocked, as there are still quite a number of us who still depend on it. In the meantime, there is a discussion about this change in the development ML, you can read it here: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-11 Thread Philip Muškovac
This isn't a bug in aptitude but in the ubuntu meta packages where the change happened. ** Package changed: aptitude (Ubuntu) = ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- Removal of aptitude from base installation

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-11 Thread Iain Buclaw
I'll be the bad guy here, and say that I +1 to aptitude's removal. Most, if not all things you can do in aptitude can be done in apt-get, apt-cache and dpkg, and at a quicker execution speed too. Someone mentioned show and search. Why not use the below two instead? apt-cache show pkg apt-cache

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-11 Thread Philip Muškovac
Am I the only one that finds apt-cache search too limited? Aptitude has search patterns http://algebraicthunk.net/~dburrows/projects/aptitude/doc/en/ch02s03s05.html -- Removal of aptitude from base installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/592336 You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-11 Thread Stephan Muhs
I also find aptitude more useful than apt-get in many cases and would not want to see it omitted. If 2 MB of space on the image is a concern, there are other ways to make room: remove some wallpapers and other non-functional stuff on the Live- CD. Also, at this point in time, one should start to

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread cariboo907
** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt http://launchpadlibrarian.net/50081925/Dependencies.txt -- Removal of aptitude from base installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/592336 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread Tom Pino
This is a tool that is not only handy in testing, there are times when it is just the best thing for the job and those are times when it may be real hard to get it due to malfunctions in other package tools. We have several partitioners, sfdisk is I would say little used. It would be easy to

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread vmc
I use Aptitude and all its functions, including show, search, etc. Please include it back in the tool set. There's a lot of features that Aptitude brings that just can't be replaced! -- Removal of aptitude from base installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/592336 You received this bug

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread Tim Cuthbertson
aptitude is the only package manager I use, 99% of the time. Please keep it in the base installation. Thank you. -- Removal of aptitude from base installation https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/592336 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread arand
Updated description with references to the decision. ** Description changed: Binary package hint: aptitude It has come to our attention that the developers want remove aptitude from the base installation again. Most of us that run a testing version use aptitude safe-upgrade, in order

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread Irihapeti
I use aptitude (the ncurses interface) extensively when creating a minimal install from a command-line version. I especially like the no recommends option, which allows me to pick and choose components when building up a system. apt-get requires me to know the exact name of a package ahead of

[Bug 592336] Re: Removal of aptitude from base installation

2010-06-10 Thread oldos2er
Please reconsider the decision to remove aptitude from the base install. CLI tools are important for the desktop, as well as a server, and we (Ubuntu desktop users) have few enough of them installed by default as it is. -- Removal of aptitude from base installation