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This should be marked as Fix Comitted and then when it finished building as
Fix Released.
My sources to say that are the Webupd8 post and the changelog from
ubuntu-wallpapers.
(http://www.webupd8.org/2010/09/final-ubuntu-1010-default-wallpaper-is.html ;
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Is this what you can do better?
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I happen to think it's quite lovely. Great job, and sorry for the
hassle, guys.
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Kind of bright, but looks ok. Thanks for the new wallpaper!
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+ Official 10.10 wallpaper is unappealing (Bad design)
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Dont mess with the bugs Seth if you dont know what you are doing.
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Thanks Mohamed for changing it back I couldnt figure out how to do it :)
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@Shane Fagan: you have to be part of the Ubuntu Bug Control team to be
able to do that.
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Yeah I know I completely forgot though back in the old days anyone could
do it.
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This entire thread brings up some interesting questions. Such as:
- Launchpad may not be the place to complain about ugly default wallpaper,
since it's not technically a bug, it's a feature - but where else is there to
complain about it?
- Why does it seem like the first reaction of Ubuntu devs
From https://lists.launchpad.net/ayatana/msg03579.html
No longer a wishlist.. So raising importance.. ;-)
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@Vish
I've read up on most of the mailing list stuff.
But they never actually state that the wallpaper will change.
The sort of clear communication people are begging here for, is still not there.
Nor is there any debate or talk about the actual arguments of the wallpaper.
They mostly are
@ Vish
I've finally caught up with Marks intervention.
I should have just clicked your link.
It's good to read that Mark's on top of it and said the magic words.
Finally.
Let's hope he will also remind the team, they they represent Canonical,
and remind them that Canonical wants to sell its
I for one am very turned off by this whole incident. The wallpaper was
ugly, everyone that commented on OMG!Ubuntu! that day agreed... But at
least on OMG!Ubuntu! you could feel like you had a voice and people were
listening.
Then as people got wind of the hugely negative reaction (developers,
I believe that harsh criticism is very healthy for anyone; however,
blatant insults are NOT.
Vish has done an excellent job with many things bug/community related.
Petty insults are really not going to get anyone anywhere. It's already
been decided that the wallpaper will be changed, so there's
@chauncellor,
OK, I apologize for the things I wrote that are offensive. I honestly
did not mean it that way (it's just words that are in my day-to-day
vocab, not pulling out stronger ones for here).
I bet Vish has done a lot of great things for bugs/community, etc... I
just wanted to point him
@Jeremy Nickurak
emThe purple and orange are nice colors for a theme but when you
put them on a gradient, they mix together. Purple+orange mixed gives you
a very unappetizing brownish color. If you could come up with a
Purple+orange+brown theme that worked, this would be okay. The gradient
Isaac:
You still are and will always be welcome here, it's just requested to
have a slightly more polite tone =).
Perhaps it would be best to confront Vish if his behavior is
unacceptable to you. We're all (sadly) human here and as such we are all
susceptible to being wrong. The thing that sets
@Ralf Nieuwenhuijsen : Contrary to the common mis-perception, there are no two
sides... ;-)
Everyone wants to improve Ubuntu, so i dont need to take sides. :-)
@Isaac Trumbo: Looking at your lp account, it seems that you are new to
launchpad and bug reporting.
So lets get a few things
On 08/30/2010 03:01 PM, Benjamin Humphrey wrote:
In this case, the mainstream certainly does not like the wallpaper.
That's obvious. I also don't believe this wallpaper was landed in
Maverick with the intention of it being a temporary one. This has never
been done before, it was landed right
I am at a loss for words on how this UGLY wall even made it in the iso
First impressions Last forever do not ever forget this
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Generraly speaking, I am against compalining about things like this, but
now all this gon too much away. Please, please get a rid of this
ugliness. I am KDE user, but a i feel sorry for millions of Ubuntu users
arround the world, they should be saved from this thing.
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Wallpaper is something that we barely see (if we are actually using our
computer) but that doesn't mean that we need to have an ugly one by
default. THe current wallpaper is better and the one that will ship with
10.10 is actually ugly since developers decided to use those ugly (let
me say that
This wallpaper won't be the default.
Be patient and everything will be fine.
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The problem IMHO it's not if it will be default or not. It's the idea of
an upgraded release wallpaper made with 3 more dots. It sounds like a
joke.
Anyway, it's not a big problem, and of course it's not a bug. It's only
community FUD, but really interesting to understanding *how* this
In this case, the mainstream certainly does not like the wallpaper.
That's obvious. I also don't believe this wallpaper was landed in
Maverick with the intention of it being a temporary one. This has never
been done before, it was landed right on the UI freeze. If the default
wallpaper does change
This default wallpaper certainly has created lots of discussion here.
And I've been an Ubuntu user, and I know this isn't what most of us expect.
If, after reading through the comments, you cannot find what mistakes
you made, maybe you should read them over. There are clearly labeled
mistakes
Vish, I'm not sure if you're aware of this, but aesthetics are by
definition subjective.
Now, if you were submitting it to an art gallery, I would agree that an
artistic critique/evaluation of it would be warranted. As it stands,
you're delivering an aesthetical element to a desktop operating
That call for hard data made me really consider recording people's
reactions to a random pool of wallpapers. I am so absolutely certain
that it will be negative.
Please tell, me, really. I'd be willing to dedicate my time to make a
survey that would prove this: just to get this off the default
I would love to see something like 8.04/8.10 those were the best
wallpapers ever released. This is too blurry and doesn't make any sense.
The orange circles look like they are forced to be there because of the
new Ubuntu palette.
I don't know if this is the final version (it looks unfinished)
Maybe I wasnt clear in my previous comment regarding the bug status change!
I dont disregard the opinion of reporter or others who have commented here. And
I did not say the wallpaper is perfect.
But *as a bug* , this bug has nothing more that subjective comments about the
wallpaper.
Which
It's hilarious to me that the bug is being dismissed because ugly is a
subjective word. Clearly, a wallpaper is an artifact that is to be
judged and evaluated BOTH in terms of how functional it is and ALSO on
how BEAUTIFUL it is. Demanding that people give you engineering reasons
why a wallpaper
Putting the bug back to confirmed, it has enough information to be
fixed. If not here's more info :
Overview:
Default Ubuntu wallpaper is not a wallpaper for an OS which aims to be
the best looking OS on the planet.
Steps to Reproduce:
Install or upgrade Ubuntu 10.10
Expected Results:
Yes,
I can confirm this bug.
Please change it to something appealing or leave the OLD one (10.04)... it was
at least nice to look at. Orange is over now... you can't bring it back...
don't get nostalgic...
Cheers
Markus
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meh!
Can people stop adding 'me too' now!
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Inspired by Chauncellor, here are the results of a mini survey:
I changed the default wallpaper in our office (9 workstations running
lucid). 5 out 9 tried first to adjust their screens and then called the
helpdesk claiming that their monitor is out focus and that they can't
fix it. 2 other's
i hope they will change it...MM 10.10 overall is a joke like
now...netbook remix aint workin with my nvidia...i dont see shit! - same
was with desktop version...i am mad now...i will stay with 10.04 LTS for
2 years and hope to see some big changes in another LTS. thank u
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I agree that ugliness is subjective, but seriously, 82 persons in less
than 2 days confirmed that they find this wallpaper ugly; that is, 82
persons with an account considered this wallpaper so ugly that they
checked on launchpad if there was a bug report about this and confirmed
it, even though
@Vish
No one is expected to be an artist here, I'm just questioning why this
is a bug!
I think everybody here understands that something like this isn't an actual
bug.
It's also true that what's pretty can be highly subjective. But that doesn't
mean it's distributed equally. If we have a poll
People interested in discussing/questioning the wallpaper can rather bring up
the discussion on the Ayatana mailing list.
A launchpad bug report is *not* the place for discussions.
You really prefer these 80+ people here, to spam a mailing list and clog up
internal discussion of the design
meh!
Can people stop adding 'me too' now!
The issue is that a wide range of people agree that the wallpaper is
substandard. This is an unusual reaction - none of the previous
wallpapers have provoked a formal bug. Since this contributes to the
overall impression of the OS, it is important to the
@jaduncan: Kindly dont change bug status, if you dont know what you are doing.
Bug has been set to status triaged. Refer to bug status for more information:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
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+ Comments have already been
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- ---
- Comments have already been clear as to the design of the wallpaper: Ugly,
the worst, 'Unappealing' , 'bad' .
- User discontent has been noted too.
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+ This is clear that this wallpaper (same old wallpaper with some
+ brightness changes and three red dots upon it) has not made most our
+ users satisfied (including me). I think for Maverick Meerkat this
+ wallpaper is simply unexpected, we all
Vish: We should mark this as an opinion instead of triaged. Opinion is
only new but it was made for bug reports like this.
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Shane:
Opinion is used as a replacement of Invalid. Clearly this bugs is very much
valid, right?
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I caught wind of the big kerfuffle regarding this wallpaper at Ayatana
and I must say, I just don't see the big problem.
It still blends well with the default splash screen and I honestly
rather like it :^)
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Bilal: Im pretty sure its not a replacement for invalid its more of a
valid but an opinion. We dont really need more info for the bug we can
act on it now.
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The purple and orange are nice colors for a theme but when you put
them on a gradient, they mix together. Purple+orange mixed gives you a
very unappetizing brownish color. If you could come up with a
Purple+orange+brown theme that worked, this would be okay. The gradient
however adds colors to
Before the SABDFL comes out to remind us this is not a democracy, I'll
add my voice to the choir: I agree with Melvin (#21), those two
wallpapers portraying the animal of the current release were
particularly loved by the community. They seem to have set their stamp,
and they actually made sense
Shane: actually no, Opinion counts as closing the bug and hides it from
the default search. Again, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status
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I think the point has been made.
Andrea Cimitan of the Canonical Design Team has stated in blog comments
Who said this is the default wallpaper? A new blog post about future
wallpapers and design decisions will follow next week. [1]
In other words, everyone is kicking up a big fuss over nothing,
Kindly add information as to why the wallpaper is 'the worst' or why
this is a bug? As a bug report there is no information why this bug is
about!
The contrast with the orange feel too bold. Purple and orange can be
combined together very nicely. I honestly think the Ubuntu home page is
one of
Yo como usuaria novata de Ubuntu, pensé que los bugs eran para dar cuenta de un
error, no de la opinión sobre si algo gusta o no gusta.
Es lamentable que se cree aqui un debate por que a una persona se le ocurrió
que está en el derecho de poner aqui su rabieta.
En primer lugar hay que tener
novatillasku, the majority of Ubuntu and Launchpad users speak
English. Next time, please write your comment in English.
Here's the translated message (in Google Translate):
Me as a novice user of Ubuntu, the bugs were thought to account for an
error, no opinion on whether something like it or
Sorry and thank's for the tranlsation ;-)
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Same wallpaper with 3 more dots = no fantasy.
I think that this community can make much better.
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C'mon, it's a joke! Just wait and you'll see the final wallpaper. They
(Canonical) have done the same previously with usplash theme etc.
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They should make a community 'contest' for the default wallpaper, like
they do with the picture wallpapers. Giving some rules and a color
palette to choose from.
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Here's a simple edit with less clashing colours. Something like this
would be nice (to me at least).
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I agree, this just the similar with little color changes and three
unexpected red dots on it, totally not good for me. I also request
please change this wallpaper. We want Maverick to be great completely
and I am sure there are better wallpapers out there.
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If they just remove those orange (red) unbelievable dots it would be
enough to avoid this kind of reaction
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Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. Unfortunately, we can't fix it because your description
didn't include enough information.
Kindly add information as to why the wallpaper is 'the worst' or why this is a
bug?
As a bug report there is no
Vish, you must be joking. You don't have to write an artistic critique
to convey that the idea of taking a previous picture, adding a few
splotches of color that really does not go well with the theme, (orange
and purple have no relationship with each other, which is why NO ONE
LIKES IT, as it
I would normally mark something like this as opinion, but I believe
this is truly an issue that needs dealing with. Posters, please use
constructive criticism.
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+ Official 10.10 wallpaper is unappealing
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I will admit, that it is different than the wallpaper for 10.04. It no
longer looks like grape juice and cottage cheese vomit.
It looks like some chemically flavored frozen orange desert was added to
the menu.
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I really do not believe in my eyes when i saw the default wallpaper !
That strange orange dots destroy all the beauty of the lucids wallpaper.
Common canonical, maverick is an awesome release it's not time to die on
the beach !
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Please only comment here if you have something relevant to contribute.
If this becomes a flame thread, no one from Canonical will bother
reading it.
Thank you.
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I loved the lucid default wallpaper. But it is amazing how such a
little change has made this new default wallpaper so unappealing.
What a shame...
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I definitely agree. This wallpaper is BAD.
Come on Canonical, do something original and good.
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