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To manage
In my case, this issue isn't fixed yet.
I'm using Natty and have unity-place-applications-0.2.46-0ubuntu3 installed
right now.
I'm still missing several applications that I had in my Gnome 10.10, especially
all menu entries from Crossover.
Some (not all) of my manual entries are accessible, but
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* New upstream release.
- unity-applications-daemon crashed with SIGSEGV in
Xapian::MSetIterator::operator*() (LP: #732945)
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Importance: Undecided
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Please fix it at the earliest, it's a show stopper for a lot of people.
Can't you just copy Gnome 3 on that?
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For anybody who is interested in a temporary work-around for Maverick
Meerkat 10.10:
If you log into your account via a regular Ubuntu Desktop Edition or
other session that you can access the wine *.desktop programs, install
an application called Docky from the Software Center. Drop the Wine
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I want to clear up the reason why I am hesitating a bit to jump right
into this. Not saying we shouldn't fix it, definitely we should! Just
that I am hesitating, to contemplate it a bit.
The XDG desktop file spec (or is it the menu spec?) dictates that to
compute the desktop file id of something
You could of course cache all .desktop files, build a suffix tree or
suffix array data structure, and then use longest-prefix matching
instead of stat()ing every possibility.
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@Damjan: Sure, but that would otoh mean I'd have to scan all application
dirs recursively. In order to get the smallest hit on startup I fetch
everything lazily. But as said; it's not that it's super tricky to
optimize or anything, it just requires a little more than 3 lines of
code to do
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Seeing as more than just Wine apps can not include the category line I
feel it best that Unity should place all these items into the Other
Section, at least they are then accessible to the user to run from
Unity.
As for Uninstall and other duplicate names, these should ALL get hidden
from the
We need some design guidance on how best to organize things for Wine
applications.
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Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Status: Triaged = Incomplete
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Just to add my two (euro)cents here, notice that the same happens to
CrossOver applications. They works well launched by command-line or via
nautilus application etc, but they do not appear anywhere in Unity. Nor
the CrossOver setup etc. It seems that all applications that create a
new top-level
Currently Bug #667690 market us duplicate of this bug, unfortunately it is not.
Please can any one confirm it?
here is screen shout what shows double menu entry after app started:
http://launchpadlibrarian.net/58392587/Bildschirmfoto-gnome-sound-record-1.ogv-2.png
and this can be fixed, after
I may be missing the point here but...
1) the netbook-launcher in Lucid did pretty much the same job: transform the
free-desktop structures into a flat structure. Why not do the same here?
2) Using the menu editor you could (Lucid UNE) hide unnecessary cruft from
appearing under the wine folder
On 28 September 2010 13:22, Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.com wrote:
In Wine the general policy is only freedesktop specifications are
supported, no desktop-specific hacks.
There isn't any cross-desktop spec for matching windows - .desktop
files, but
BAMF goes through 3 layers of matching before falling back to a
failure state where no .desktop file is associated. The layers in
short are:
1) A gio module which directly informs bamf which PID is launched with which
.desktop file
2) wm-class - desktop_id association
3) heuristics (sloppy)
In
I forgot to mention that we consider the GNOME Shell method of doing
matching to be fallback matching as the gio module is considerably
more accurate when it works (no indirection).
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You're right Adam. You got me there. I have actually never noticed that
particular paragraph in the spec before :-) Thanks for digging into
this!
It is, however, a pretty nasty part of the spec since it requires
excessive stat()ing of files. Consider:
We don't need to comply with the spec if it's badly considered; we could
propose an update to the spec that lends itself to non-pathological
implementations :-)
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As the writer of winemenubuilder, the part of Wine that builds
freedesktop menus, I have this to add.
The menu structure is driven by the per-shortcut .menu files under
~/.config/menus/applications-merged. The .directory files in
~/.local/share/desktop-directories and the .desktop files in
On 28 September 2010 11:40, Damjan Jovanovic damjan@gmail.com wrote:
As the writer of winemenubuilder, the part of Wine that builds
freedesktop menus, I have this to add.
Cool. Nice to have you in the discussion! :-)
The menu structure is driven by the per-shortcut .menu files under
In Wine the general policy is only freedesktop specifications are
supported, no desktop-specific hacks.
There isn't any cross-desktop spec for matching windows - .desktop
files, but http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell/ApplicationBased seems like
a good place to start:
To ensure the GNOME 3 Shell
@all, thanks for looking into this.
@Mikkel, I've looked at your analysis and tried a test case and agree.
However, I believe unity isn't implementing the XDG spec fully. The
spec [1], says this about AppDirs:
If the directory contains sub-directories then these sub-directories
should be
Agreed that we drop this for Maverick and focus on it for Natty. We
should document a manual workaround for folks to provide the needed
category for Wine apps manually, if they really need it.
Ask a question to Scott Richie - could we make this part of the Wine app
installation process, that
The change is not trivial, and I'm concerned that it can have impacts
that we can't totally manage at this late stage of the development
cycle.
I propose to document a workaround in the release notes, consisting in
moving the wine .desktop files to one of the XDG directories we monitor.
In
Moving the bug to the backlog to be considered for an SRU
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I tried to figure out the ramifications of this and it seems to be
pretty tangled up. Giving a high risk of breakage if we rush it at this
late point in the cycle.
Here's what I know:
* The following modules are based on the assumption that they deal with
desktop ids: zeitgeist,
OK, Let's take Scott Ritchie's guidance as canonical on this, it may not
get done for Maverick but a patch implementing this properly with tests
would be accepted as a contribution.
Mark
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Why isn't Unity doing the exact thing Gnome is here?
Because Unity is not centered around a hierarchical menu like Gnome is.
We only support one level of categories (ie no submenus) and the
categories are lined up horizontally, not vertically, which makes them
fill up the available space quickly
The best you can do then is dump them all into a Wine category, which
would be assumed from the path in the same way that the Gnome menu
assumes Wine apps go into the Wine subfolders. The user can then prune
the cruft.
That still leaves a lot of problems of course - Windows apps like to put
a
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I pushed up a branch much similar to Adam's idea (thanks taking a shot
at this Adam!). It will result in Wine apps showing up (and being
searchable) under All Applications, but they can not be launched - and
that seems to be a way trickier issue to resolve...
I installed Songbird's Windows
On 18/09/10 19:22, Sense Hofstede wrote:
Would adding a separate category for Wine applications be an option as
well?
I'd suggest we start with integrating those apps into the existing
categories. If it later becomes evident that a separate category would
be better, we can do the work then.
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Thanks for you work on this Adam! I have not reviewed the patch yet, but
I need to know if you have signed the contributor agreement?
I am a bit cautious of indexing stuff that doesn't have an XDG category,
since all sorts of .desktop files we don't want to show also does not
have categories and
Ah, I didn't realise that Wine apps don't have categories provided -
makes sense though if you think that they are just Windows apps, there's
no packaging. OK, perhaps a Wine category is needed then, to do this
properly. It should of course only show up if there are Wine apps installed.
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Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2010 21:47
Subject: [Bug 635223] Re: Wine applications not listed in Unity Applications
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Ah, I didn't realise that Wine apps don't have categories provided -
makes
Why isn't Unity doing the exact thing Gnome is here?
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On 19/09/10 22:12, Adam Guthrie wrote:
Are wine apps going to be the only ones missing categories?
As far as I can see the specs say that specifying categories is optional
in .desktop files.
Shouldn't we be fixing .desktop files that are missing nodisplay or
excluding them explicitly in
On 19/09/10 23:24, Scott Ritchie wrote:
Why isn't Unity doing the exact thing Gnome is here?
What's the pattern there?
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Installation of Wine package provides some .directory files in
~/.local/share/desktop-directories - these provide folders for the
wine and Programs namespace. However, these are duplicated by the
.directory files the package itself provides so they should get ignored
(the package provides them so
Adam, Sense, thanks for the patch I'll ask Mikkel to take a look.
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I can confirm that *.desktop files generated by Wine indeed don't contain a
category.
It is tricky to make sure the categories do end up correctly in these files
since Wine has no source to draw the information from. On top of that, you
could ask yourself whether it would be desired behaviour
The problem seems to be that my wine .desktop files have no Category
value, and hence unity-applications-daemon is skipping them whilst
indexing the gmenu.
Sense, is this the same for you?
Attached is a patch to unity-application-daemon to allow category-less
menu entries, whilst still trying to
I'm marking this bug as Triaged since I can confirm the issue myself as well
and since an upstream task has been opened. I'm leaving the status to Undecided
for the Unity Team to decide themselves.
This is something that I would be glad to see fixed before the release of
Maverick, though,
A patch would be welcome, but this isn't something we're likely to be
able to fix ourselves pre-Maverick.
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