Also
You can also note that GNOME3 removed the minimize button from their wm
controls, you can read their rational on
https://mail.gnome.org/archives/gnome-shell-list/2011-February/msg00192.html
The last sentence of this says:
The real form of feedback that we need going from GNOME 3.0 to
Hoping that enough people read this, I will write a few more words here:
I started a discussion on the Ubuntu Power Users mailing list (Ubuntu-
power-us...@lists.ubuntu.com) and I want to invite you all to join the
list and participate in the conversation/discussion.
I hope there is a chance
@#135 about more or less technical users:
If you (Canonical) don't respect the needs of the technical users, you possibly
make it more difficult to reach the 200 Million users goal: The technical users
are multiplicatiors for other, less technical, normal users: They tell them
about the
Workspace switcher icon, Applications icon (the one with plus sign in a
cap of coffee), Files and Folders icon and Ubuntu icon, also every icon
in top panel work in the way that on one click they show something, on
another they hide it. Is this also confusing to users? I don't think so.
So, why
Apparently canonical's targeted userbase will start drooling on their
keyboards even more if they're presented with such an option.
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2011/6/25 mmiicc mpredo...@gmail.com
Workspace switcher icon, Applications icon (the one with plus sign in a
cap of coffee), Files and Folders icon and Ubuntu icon, also every icon
in top panel work in the way that on one click they show something, on
another they hide it. Is this also
Well, I tried using the branch with the source of unity 3.6.18 and to my
surprise I found that unexpectedly, It behaves the same way as normal
unity.
I had installed it in /opt/unity and I had verified that I was running
the same installation.
Is there some other setting that needs to be done to
@seb128:
Softwares behaviour can't please all users who have different workflows
Agree, but they should provide options to try get closer to please these
users, at least.
The unity choices are often driven by design and confirmed or not by
user testing. Those commenting that quite some users
I guess the main question is:
whether these cases (this and some other wontfixes) are just an acidents
(because of bad patches code, bad moon phases, or seasonal affective disorder
among Aetana),
or this is general developement policy (to ignore users' feedback, make design
desisions more
Could you stop such comments? Softwares behaviour can't please all users
who have different workflows, the fact that the unity team took design
decisions which are different from your habits doesn't mean those are
wrong, they might take less technical users and confusing behaviour for
them in
Some extra comments:
When the window of a program/application is already focused and you
click the corresponding launcher icon (of that program) you expect
usually that something happens
You might do, but non technical users might get really confused if they
dialog go away because they click on
Everyone who wants to use a computer will have to learn how to use it.
non technical users might get really confused if their dialog goes away
because they click on the show me the application icon twice by error
They'll figure it out eventually. Meanwhile people who know what they want to
do
2011/6/24 Sebastien Bacher seb...@ubuntu.com
Some extra comments:
When the window of a program/application is already focused and you
click the corresponding launcher icon (of that program) you expect
usually that something happens
You might do, but non technical users might get really
First of all: thanks to you Marco for fixing this!
@John Lea and the Canonical team
What I do not understand is the politics behind some of the decisions here:
1) there is a huge number of users who want a change to the current state of
things and gladly somebody had the abilities to implement
SRoesgen: I would personally like to see this too, but I do think we
have to see the other side of the argument too. This is a feature
request, not a bug (at least for my definition of a bug, others may
disagree), and the this affects me too is not really a way of voting
for new features but a
@All
The problem I have with this whole decision is that a real question was raised
in the whole discussion and then it was ignored:
1) When the window of a program/application is already focused and you
click the corresponding launcher icon (of that program) you expect
usually that something
2) You (meaning Canonical) accept the fact that people post requests in
which they demand changes to the system. But Canonical should then make
clear that they do not want any extra work from non-canonical members
because they are not willing to maintain patches from users. So do not
post
2011/6/23 Sam Spilsbury smspil...@gmail.com
2) You (meaning Canonical) accept the fact that people post requests in
which they demand changes to the system. But Canonical should then make
clear that they do not want any extra work from non-canonical members
because they are not willing
Just make it as Docky. On a click when;
1) If all windows are visible, all windows should minimize.
2) If one of the windows of the same group is minimized, but others are
visbible it should restore all windows
3) If all windows are minimized, **all** of them restore old position
I see no
The user-community is bagging for more ways to configure Unity. This one would
have been a fine and desired option.
But OK, I don't mind, I'm not using Unity anymore.
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@The Fiddler
Thank you.
@All
I personally would like to discuss the whole topic of design decisions. I know
that to some I am becoming a nuisance because this is not the first bug where I
start complaining about the term design decision but, to me, it seems to be
the source of many disputes.
Yes, these displays of hubris on the part of the unity development clan
(which reflect on Ubuntu as a whole) are very unsettling and difficult
to accept. I'm not sure if it's tunnel-vision with their eyes on a long-
term goal with no distractions (read: options) or ignorance as to how
users are
Oops. 200 _million_.
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I'm affected by the default behavior too.
I will go with this setting :
If the icon has just one app launched :
1- a clic on the icon should :
- Minimize the app if this app has the focus.
- re-show the app if it doesn't have focus or is minimize.
If the icon has just more
This change will not be made directly in Unity, so marked as won't fix.
However this should not prevent Marco's patch being packaged and made
available for download by those desire this functionality.
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Here in comments i found only pros. Is there discussion elsewhere?
I'm wondering if it's possible to create a poll in launchpad to measure
how much people want this feature back.
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I'm wondering if it's possible to create a poll in launchpad to measure how
much people want this feature back.
There's no democracy here in developement. And there're reasons for that.
It's developers headache to implement and support a feature. Users do not pay
for that. Don't know if
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: New = Won't Fix
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Importance: Low = Undecided
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Why was this set to Won't Fix?
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See Mark's comment #26. I am not sure why this bug was reverted by
'Extender' but returning to correct status.
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It is quite odd if it is not implemented. Every window manager does it.
Windows XP, Docky under Ubuntu, AWN, even pressing twice on the taskbar
under traditional Gnome restores and minimizes the window. I urge to
reconsider this trivial but essential piece of functionality.
- Jorgen
On Mon,
Adding minimise will add complications...
I really disagree. This function will only be available when explicit
set in ccsm. People that can install ccsm and tweak unity will not
experience difficulties in understand the show - spread - minimize
cicle. And there is almost 100 people demonstrating
Adding minimise will add complications...
Did I miss the part where you now have to be a complete idiot to be able
to use ubuntu?
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I'm pretty sure someone has already written a patch, either here or in the
related ayatana discussion. In this case, it's just a matter of reviewing
and approving the patch.
It would be a shame to ignore one of the most subscribed-to bugs for
Natty.
2011/6/20 Dimitris Papageorgiou
the staus before was opinion, it was set by Mark Shuttleworth in #19::
Mark Shuttleworth wrote on 2011-04-21: Re: [Bug 733349] Re: Add 'minimize all
windows' option to the quicklist of running applications #19
(...)
status opinion
Mark
Changed in ayatana-design:
status: Won't Fix →
It would be a shame to ignore one of the most subscribed-to bugs for
Natty.
Indeed.
This is one of the last things that makes Unity uncomfortable.
Developers says that adding this functionality will bring some complications?
I'm sure that present situation is more complicated!
Come on, the
Are there any reasons to remove the feature, beside Shuttleworth's vision of
complicatness?
Here in comments i found only pros. Is there discussion elsewhere?
Is there binary package or ppa available with Marco patch applied?
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There is no PPA yet.
Em 20/06/2011 15:37, qmax 733...@bugs.launchpad.netescreveu:
Are there any reasons to remove the feature, beside Shuttleworth's vision of
complicatness?
Here in comments i found only pros. Is there discussion elsewhere?
Is there binary package or ppa available with Marco
@Marco Biscaro: -
The commit seems to work well in both modes. Looking mainly at the default mode
it does add some useful left click action(s)
The only thing that comes up is sometimes, when there are a # of same app
windows open on various viewports, a previously minimised window will be
Note - by importance I mean what or any other single user 'likes'
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Please, see: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CNVi9cRwhyU
You'll upload the code to a branch today for futher testing, and
possible bugs fix.
If no one find problems, I'll propose the merge with trunk. :)
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*I'll* upload the code to a branch today.
Sorry for spamming...
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@Marco Biscaro:
Great! That is the way it should look! It's also very intuitive: You click on
the launcher, the window minimizes right there. That just looks right. Good
work! :-)
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You, sir, are a hero!
Intuitive, great-looking *and* toggleable. It's perfect :)
2011/5/18 Bazon bazonbl...@arcor.de
@Marco Biscaro:
Great! That is the way it should look! It's also very intuitive: You click
on the launcher, the window minimizes right there. That just looks right.
Good
** Branch linked: lp:~marcobiscaro2112/unity/fixes-733349
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Just to add to the volume of opinion, if not the strength of the
argument - I consistently try to click on the icon to minimise it.
Working with a work desktop with Windows 7 on it and a work laptop with
Gnome 'classic' on it and Unity at home, I find it hard to switch
behaviours. And while it may
I can't change the bug status in unity, but I'm now working on this bug.
I'm implementing the solution proposed in comment #58.
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@Marco: If you can successfully implement the exact behaviors detailed
in your solution from comment #58 I will be one _very_ happy camper!
Thanks for picking this up!
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This is ridiculous that the title is being changed so often, no-one else
for the last 2months was misled by the title. Most users will use the
term 'minimize' so that is what should be in the title. This AU question
is a prime example: http://askubuntu.com/questions/36433/why-cant-i-use-
Marco Biscaro wrote:
Why should the launcher suddenly hide windows?
Again: because applications can not be hidden.
Citation needed. Or please explain yourself. I've explained and justified my
statements, I've heard no counterarguments other than No, I disagree.
(There is no /the/ *window*;
2011/5/16 Ed Lin 733...@bugs.launchpad.net
The Fiddler wrote:
I don't think so: the launcher is used to create a new *window* for an
application or to bring the *window* of that application up. As far I
know,
applications that does not have a window can not be pinned (and aren't
even
@The Fiddler
FYI you are misunderstanding me. It never was about this functionality breaking
app-centric paradigms. It really only has been about definitions,
differentiations and terminology, both in the bug discussion and in eventually
user facing dialogs and options.
I find it pretty ironic
2011/5/17 Ed Lin 733...@bugs.launchpad.net
Back to the real topic:
Good.
all windows belonging to an application is the same as the application
from a Linux user's perspective. Both would work for them. That doesn't mean
the chosen terminology doesn't matter to the user at all. I already
This bug report explicitly refers to Minimize Application's Windows upon
clicking it's Launcher Icon . Not minimize application but minimize
application windows.
Yes, because someone changed it. You remember the original title chosen
by the bug reporter was Unity launcher buttons should allow
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