Ok, I rebuilt the kernel on AMD64 without USB_SUSPEND, and everything
works OK (mine is not a scanner problem, but another device altogether
-- see bug #110806). If someone wants it, I will post it.
Of course, as I didn't build the linux-restricted-modules package (which
requires 150MB of source
Hallo all.
At the bottom is the part of drivers/usb/core/quirks.c of latest
kernel source. You can see that USB_SUSPEND is impotent option for
mobile_linux but need a lot of testing and fixing. If you like make you
device working for you and other, report your usb_id and dmesg which
show broken
Unfortunately, I'm on AMD64 so I'm in the process of building a version
myself.
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Fishor , just like Jean I have tried your kernel-image ,
linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386.deb , scanning using Xsane works again !!
Phew... Great job Fishor !
My scanner is Epson Perfection 1670 using the snapscan backend.
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The scanbuttond workaround worked for me too (LiDE25 scanner).
I installed the package scanbuttond with synaptic.
I entered the command
scanbuttond
as a normal user from a Terminal window.
Magically both xsane and xscanimage started working,
both as a standalone and with gimp.
Kooka worked
If the Ubuntu devs cannot post an official update as it would break
laptop users, can someone post updated non-official kernel packages with
USB_SUSPEND disabled?
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I've been following this bug for a couple of weeks, and by now everybody
seems to relate this issue with USB_SUSPEND and agree that several backends
are affected...
But my Benq S2W 3300U (snapscan backend) is not working too, even with all
the posted workarrounds.
I tested with the polling script
you can try this image on your own risk
http://rapidshare.com/files/28940816/linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386_2.6.20-15.27ubuntu1.1_i386.deb.html
md5sum
7a11b089b0a1496b98a99cdd77cfcc65
linux-image-2.6.20-15-124-386_2.6.20-15.27ubuntu1.1_i386.deb
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I initially had the original reported problem (Kubuntu 7.04 updated to
today / Kooka / LiDE 25), with a black scan being produced. I installed
scanbuttond, started it, and restarted Kooka after unplugging /
replugging the scanner. This allowed me to make a preview. I then
adjusted some settings
Hello,
I am in the same situation as Jaime but my scanner is an Epson Perfection 660.
I am using Feisty now. The scanner used to work with Edgy...
scanbuttond does not work for me...
Where does your image come from, fishor ?
Is it safe to try ?
Best regards
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Brieussel.
I made this image from ubuntu source. There is no patches and only
disabled USB_SUSPEND.
It's working well for me and if some thing wrong you can start your old
kernel.
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I made this image from ubuntu source. There is no patches and only
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It's working well for me and if some thing wrong you can start your old
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William,
Try the Xsane image scanner. Install it if you don't have it and give
it a try. The scanbuttond works with it. I just don't see any useful OCR
work being done with it. Other than that, it might meet your needs.
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scanbuttond worked for me on LIDE30!! incredible...
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scanbuttond worked for me for one scan (CanoScan N670U). Then the whole
thing stopped. Sigh.
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wow. you questions made me a bit smarter this morning. I read some
documentation and this what i have:
from kernel source
Documentation/kernel-parameters.txt
Module parameters for loadable modules are specified only as the
parameter name with optional '=' and value as appropriate, such as:
here is request for autosuspend module option
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/77
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Hello People,
I checked out the scan button daemon from feisty and IT WORKED.
It is really funny. The daemon could be started from the user.
Now I am able to remove the edgy kernel from my machine..
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It's a good workaround ;)
it still need be fixed in the kernel. scan button daemon don't allow suspend
the device.
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It is a very big shame altogether and probably the first step to another
distribution.
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to fraz
please can you tell exactly what is this scan button daemon, I don't
understand what this is about
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sudo aptitude install scanbuttond
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Some more explaination about scan button daemon:
install the software
sudo aptitude install scanbuttond
now start the daemon as normal user
scanbuttond.
after this my epson scanner with snapscan backend is working fine.
But what is going on?
the daemon allways watches for the scanner and the
Thank you soo much!
My LiDE 20 (N670U) cooperates with Xsane again - scanbuttond works
perfect for me...
regards
Frank
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Works with my Lide 30 too.
However this is all only a workaround, the true essence of the problem
remains.
On another note, do we have to start 'scanbuttond' everytime we want to scan or
is does it start with the system boot once installed ?
Since I installed Ubuntu at my parents place (and
I installed scanbuttond as suggested, following the instructions
Then I ran it from within terminal
Then ran Kooka
Still getting black scan (fake scan, scanner really doesn't scan)
So this may work with some scanning programs but not all.
Which program(s) have you tried with it that it works
Hi t2000kw,
I worked with gnome - xsane.
Have you read the manuals at http://scanbuttond.sourceforge.net/ not all
scanners are supported.
regards
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I did try Xsane and it scanned--poor, unusable OCR rendering, though (I
installed Gocr and Ocrad as OCR support). Any suggestions on a good OCR
scanning program?
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I should add that I got an acceptable scan, I think, so the scanbuttond
is doing something. I couldn't' get Xsane to work before.
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Same thing with a Canon Lide 30
When starting xsane from GImp and asking for a preview, it does the preview but
leaves the sensor head it the middle and then does not answer anymore.
Then when you close xsane and start it again, the sensor head moves a bit as to
go in initial place but stops
thanks emu. it's looks really like my bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-source-2.6.20/+bug/96883
It seems like some devices not working properly with USB_SUSPEND. Simple and
may be only solution is to make blacklist entry to drivers/usb/core/quirks.c
or kompile the kernel
is there a way to disable the USB_SUSPEND in a simple manipulation for
test purposes ?
Is something like a command 'echo 1
/proc/sys/kernel/something_relate_to_USB_SUSPEND' exists ?
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marked as fixed in main stream. in
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=8231
Does it mean a new kernel for Feisty will be released soon ?
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hmm... good question!
i taked a look to the last git kernel_source and there is no support of procfs
( or i didn't found ) , it seems to support sysfs but it was added later for
2.6.21
Te is module parherameter usb_autosuspend_delay for usbcore you can try to set
it to usb_autosuspend_delay=0
I was going to suggest people try the linux-image-server kernel, but I
noticed that this has CONFIG_USB_SUSPEND set too. :-(
Is there a reason for that (given that you don't usually expect servers
needing to suspend/resume).
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Sorry to interrupt, but chalk up another one for
Kubuntu/Feisty/AMD64/Canon N670U.
Currently have my 32-bit MEPIS machine doing all the scan jobs until
this issue can be resolved.
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Experiencing the same bug. Canon LiDE 30.
Like Kev above, I nearly THREW OUT my scanner because I assumed it had
taken some sort of fatal blow. It's kind of bizarre that they'd allow
this kind of regression to go into the stock kernel. I agree, laptop
suspend/resume is important, but Jesus, if
Like I said, more than a kernel issue or a sane issue it's a libusb
issue, because it can't handle suspend/resume. Has anyone tried
contacting the libusb developers?
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To elaborate, the really devious thing about this bug is that it can
EASILY be mistaken for a hardware fault, especially since everything
appears to function normally on the software end. Please AT LEAST
release a quick and dirty OMFG you got a crap scanner sry patch.
Joel Berger's
Maybe this bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends/+bug/93654
is also related to ours.
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I actually wrote a E-Mail to Johannes Erdfeldt, the developer of libusb.
Because I didn´t found a official bugtracker for libusb. I asked him if the
problem could be caused by libusb and if libusb already can handle the
suspend/resume option.
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@emu
I did it too... just few minutes before you did!
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I want to confirm this issue with a Canon N650U at an IBM R40 notebook.
Worked with Edgy, no more with Feisty.
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Same problem there with a Hercules Maxi Scan A4 USB 36bit, worked fine
with Edgy and no luck with Feisty
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Same proble here. Canon Lide 20 worked fine in edgy but not in feisty.
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gscan2pdf worked for me. If you mainly need to scan documents and not images
it's a 'workaround'. I just downloaded and installed the following package.
http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/download/debian/binary/gscan2pdf_0.9.8_all.deb
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Nice tip! gscan2pdf works fine for me too. Perfect workaround for me,
since I typically want documents in PDF form anyway.
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Can someone point me in the right direction for information on how to
get gscan2pdf to recognize that I have a USB scanner?
Thanks,
Scott
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Take a look at my post #15 here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=414474page=2
I installed it with Synaptic, but the extra downloads are not reconized
unless you right-click on the highlighted gscan2pdf.
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A quick hack to open a full page scan into gimp (LiDE25).
scanimage -x 215 -y 297 ~/image.pnm gimp ~/image.pnm
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gscan2pdf refuses to scan in lineart mode. Unknown message: scanimage:
unrecognized option `--compression=None'
Considering how this is the most useful mode for document scanning I
wouldn't consider this a very good workaround.
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It looks like it also affects other USB devices also, see bug #110806
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As far as Gscan2pdf, I'd goto Sourceforge's page contact the
maintainer Also, he might be able to shed some light about your lineart
needs. This was only proposed as a TEMPORARY solution until Xsane
becomes operational again.
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I can also confirm the problem on ubuntu/feisty/i386 with a Canon 670U.
Fortunately, the wrapper from Joel Berger and ianrose works perfectly
for me.
Although I know that it is a hack (and somehow dirty) it may be worth
for everyone to give it a try. Maybe there are extensions possible for
those,
A windows user was looking at me while I was trying to scan a page with
my Feisty and Canon Lide-30... He went away from my desk laughing
aloud...
It's a shame.
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Just for the record, Joel Berger's workaround didn't work for me. Or
rather, it works only for one scan.
I've resigned myself to using scanimage until this gets fixed. This is
annoying since I bought this scanner specifically because it would work
well on Linux, and it worked amazingly well on
I haven't tested Feisty yet (unfortunately I have been relying on a LiDE
30 scanner) but as I've followed the progress of this bug I wondered if
someone could try rolling the keep the USB port open hacks into the
scan button daemon http://scanbuttond.sourceforge.net/ That way the
hack could be
Confirmed on ubunty fesity final
Bus 002 Device 007: ID 04a9:220e Canon, Inc. CanoScan N1240U/LiDE 30
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I have the same problems and resolved it just by booting with the latest
but one kernel that was automatically installed during the update from
Edgy to Feisty. Obviously, the latest but one kerne was not compiled
with the USB_SUSPEND-option. Now my Lide 20 works fine again.
If you do not need a
Willi, which kernel are u working with ?
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same problem with a Epson Perfection 660 (snapscan)...
but, when I launch Xsane, it freeze on the device choice window, and I was sure
it was a freeze, but not.
In fact, if I wait 5 minutes, it finally start and I can scan normally.
and if I don't scan for a long period, it freeze but just for 5
I've had to conclude that the developers won't be fixing this one - they
are not going to change the kernel build options for anything other than
security issues, which this isn't. The time to fix this was during
feisty development, by responding to this bug report. Instead the
decision was taken
I also downgraded to 2.6.17-11 kernel and now my epson 1670 works fine
with xsane and vuescan.
It is gracy ...
No help from ubuntu?! ...
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Just been bitten by this one as well. I guess this means I have to
return to using Windows. *Sigh*
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I have the same trouble on a Packard-Bell computer and a Epson perfection 1670.
Was working perfectly under edgy, now must be root to find the scanner, then
scanimage -L and xane as user will work but sometimes I/O err with scanner.
Works with another computer.
Packard-Bell #lispci
00:00.0
good workaround. Ubuntu had more than two kernels in Dapper or Breezy if I
remember correctly - for i386, i586, k7, k8, so THAT should be not the problem.
But it doesn't solve the problem, neither helps it people who hava just a
laptop and want to attach a scanner to it.
Of course they could use
my epson perfection 1200 quit after the update
xsane just hangs, say it searching but that is it
have to force quit to get it to stop
scanimage thru the terminal does the same, just hangs
gimp hangs searching for plugins
the only way to close gimp is to reboot.
the scanner worked ok before
Same problem with LiDE25 on Feisty. Edgy worked fine with that scanner.
Thank you Joel Berger for the workaround!!!
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Same here with CanoScan N650U. Yesterday it worked like a charm with
Edgy on Dell Laptop. Today it doesn't work after updated to Feisty.
Can't find a workaround valid for me. Maybe with an old kernel version
valid for Feisty?
Please someone mark this bug as high priority. People working on image
** Changed in: xsane (upstream)
Status: Unconfirmed = Confirmed
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this message:
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i have a suggestion. How hard would it be to have TWO kernels---One for
desktop unit that have no need for USB_SUSPEND one for laptops that
do? It would be very easy for the user to download the right kernel for
his/her use
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It is *not* a problem of the specific backend, as the snapscan backend
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I have the Canon N650U that doesn't work - but I must say that my
suspend/resume function doesn't work very good either.
So im very unhappy with this implementation in feisty.
(FJS Amilo Pa1538)
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Recompiling is no option either.
What we need is a proper fix and we need it soon.
And change the priority of this bug to high.
Thinking about going back to SuSE 10.2 :-(
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I confirm the problem of black preview/no movement with a Canon Lide 25.
Really hope a fix very soon, as soon as I am not a devel.
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If I could figure out how to get my Canon i850 printer to work properly
under Suse 10.2 Linux, I would go back, but there seems to be no way to
get the Pixus driver installed, or at least installed in a way I can
figure out how to use it. I have the apt-get commands for Debian based
Linux distros
Confirming the problem with Feisty and LIDE 30. Works fine in Fedora
Core 6.
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N650U. Please fix in some way. The workarounds help. If you need a GUI,
you can use gscan2pdf, works fine.
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Using an application called scanner utility I was able to successfully
scan at 96 dpi with my Canon LIDE 25. When I tried about 600 dpi it
wouldn't work but appeared to be working in the application, showing
some progress in the status bar.
The utility is quite limited, and it only saves the file
The utility I mentioned previously does not like to close when finished.
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As reported elsewhere---gscan2pdf (from sourceforge) will scan with a GUI. I
added the gscan repository to apt:
deb http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/download/debian binary/
then used Synaptic to install with all the depends except sane (sane
frontend). this software works very well looks to be
FYI--if you experiment with this, you can use the Xkill application from
within a terminal window to close the unruly window.
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I had also the USB SUSPEND Problem with my Epson Perfection 1260/Photo
Scanner. I recompiled the Kernel and now it is working. While
recompiling I found out, that the USB SUSPEND Funktion is still
experimental. I think it should be deaktivited, there are to many
Problems with it. I think it should
I tried gscan2pdf but the application from the link is missing some
packages, according to an error message I got. Not sure where to get
these things--I thought when a package was chosen all of the associated
packages were brought along with it???
Anyway, it doesn't know my scanner exists, so
Edit your apt sources.list code sudo gedit /etc/apt/sources.list
and add these lines:
#Gscan2pdf
deb http://gscan2pdf.sourceforge.net/download/debian binary/
save close.then start Synaptic update.
Search for gscan2pdf, then highlight it/right click add all depends EXCEPT
sane. return
How do I find and get rid of Gscan2pdf??? It won't work, and it doesn't
show up in add/remove programs or in Synaptics package manager.
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Added note: I guess that it would have been better to recomend apt-get
to get it-Apt-get would recomend the extra stuff to get the software
working--just don't add sane unless you un-install xsane.
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As the kernel config option does not look to be going away (there are
plenty of so-called experimental kernel options that are in just about
every distro's version) as laptop support is deemed more important, and
i tend to concur, even though I don't have a laptop. Becausr this
problem does not
Gee, thanks guys, I just threw my Canon 1240u in the bin because it
wasn't working! Good work.
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Hello out there,
my LIDE 20 doesn't work as it does with edgy. Same stuff like above: with
XSANE: itchy noises but no image, with scanimage: noise and image. For all
other manners: I love feisty! Really good work! Thanx
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/85488
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I have an Agfa SnapScan 1212U too and the LED of the USB-port it is
connected to just blinks.
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Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/85488
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It appears to be some problem with initializing the scanner.
I was playing around with scanimage then immediately afterwards I tried
xsane.
Xsane accidentally worked for one scan.
I have not been able to reproduce it.
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Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui
As noted above, libusb is the suspect in this case. USB port is going to
sleep before the scan can be finalized.
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Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/85488
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Confirming the problem with agfa snapscan 1212u - worked perfectly in
edgy
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Canon Lide25 (plustek backend) scanner does not scan via gui
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/85488
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Feisty Fawn: Cannon Lide20 is not working. The xsane is starting
fine. It is showing all component windows of the xsane frontend in
perfect order. But, it is not working. When I click the 'Preview' or the
'Scan' it is starting in usual manner, and after some time generating a
blank black image.
This does not work on my system either, using a Canon LIDE 25 scanner.
If suspend/resume cannot function together with useable scanner drivers,
how about a way to choose one or the other for now until the bug can be
fixed?
Is it worth learning how to recompile a kernel to fix this, and would it
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