@damian
My backspace key is only 1 cm away from Page Up. So it can happen if you
want to switch tabs (e.g. in gedit) using CTRL+ALT+PageUp.
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If you can't manage not to type this key combination then you really
should question whether you're able to use a computer at all.
He is right you know. Its absurd than anyone could press those buttons
accidentally.
If you would be to press them accidentally theres a bigger problem at
hand..
could you please make dontzap a accessability option for those who are
unable to control their fingers?
today I ended up having to pull the plug because I could not find
another way to get out of xorg. my /home partition was not mounted so
gnome would not come up and would also not load my
Thomas why didn't you just use the new key combo? (Alt + Druck + K on my
German keyboard, see above)
The advantage is that you can also use it when your XServer crashed
completely AFAIK.
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Disabling Ctrl+Alt+Delete by default is a dumb idea. Dumb. Dumb. Dumb.
The correct way to handle this would have been for the desktop state to
be saved when the three keys are pressed to end the X session. Then
when X is restarted you could be prompted as to whether you wish to
recover the
On Sat, May 16, 2009 at 10:21 AM, Raptor Ramjet
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The correct way to handle this would have been for the desktop state to
be saved when the three keys are pressed to end the X session. Then
when X is restarted you could be prompted as to whether you wish to
@Raptor
Where's the problem in using the new key combo? (Alt + Druck + K on my
German keyboard)
I think it's great they disabled Ctrl+Alt+Delete since it really is
possible to hit this accidentally (e.g. gedit uses Ctrl+Alt+PageUp to
switch tabs).
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fixed in jaunty.
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dontzap is enabled by default in upstream, so in jaunty this will be
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excellent news! :)
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dontzap is enabled by default in upstream, so in jaunty this will be
fixed.
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.. and it happened again .. just lost a long message i was working on ..
ok, enough .. where do i send a patch? .. this needs to go away for good
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this thing is a huge fail for ubuntu and linux in general .. screw
backwards-compatibility wrt. blog-posts mentioning how to restart X;
we're supposed to be moving forward .. make it ctrl-alt-shift-
backspace or something that requires some tiiny significant amount of
effort from the user to
@Lars
That's why my idea is to make it necessary to hold the keys for several
seconds. If a user reads Press STRG+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart your XServer
and it doesn't work immediately he will very likely try to hold the keys for
several seconds. He wouldn't try to add SHIFT to the combination,
to add some real life context; practically all programs dealing with
text have support for ctrl-backspace:
i'm editing text in Firefox (while i'm typing this)? .. it's there
i'm editing text in OpenOffice? .. it's there
i'm editing code in Emacs? .. it's there
i'm chatting with someone on MSN
Lars, ranting about it is only going to sour people who can fix this for
you and turn them off from wishing to help.
If you've read the blueprint discussion you'll see that the idea of
changing the keys, adding a dialog, or turning it off entirely have all
been rejected by those who favor keeping
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Lars, ranting about it is only going to sour people who can fix this for
you and turn them off from wishing to help.
If you've read the blueprint discussion you'll see that the idea of
changing the keys, adding a
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Perhaps... but I don't think there is an easy solution to this that will
make everyone satisfied. I could imagine those who support keeping the
shortcut would dislike it no longer working immediately, whereas people
who don't want to have X exit from inadvertent keystrokes may prefer to
see the
I think CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE should still reset the XServer as there are
many tutorials out there which say something like and now hit
CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE to restart your XServer. If this wouldn't work, many
user would be helpless because they wouldn't now that this has been
deactivated.
IMHO the
Raising the priority of this since it can cause serious data loss.
Bryce, could we have your view on a simple implementation of this that
changes the default for dontzap?
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I'd also done a similar implementation of this earlier for a spec:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
However, after talking with the spec reviewers, it was not accepted,
because there was lack of a consensus about the change, and while there
were several favoring it strongly, there
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I personally don't have a problem enabling dontzap by default, but there
should be a way to disable it. A patch to the actual server should just
change the default value of the option from false to true, leaving the
option usable in xorg.conf.
Once a decision is made, I'd be happy to attempt a
Bryce: what's your take on this?
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If we end up using dontzap by default, it'll happen by patching the
server, not by changing dexconf.
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* dexconf:
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I agree with the reporter, I think DontZap should be enabled by default.
I'm using Ubuntu with the default settings and I press Ctrl-Alt-Backspace by
accident quite often. I'm sure heavy users of workspaces will do the same,
since if you switch workspace you hold down Ctrl and Alt. If you then
We won't be implementing this for Gutsy because the spec needs to gain a
stronger consensus.
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This has been accepted as a spec:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/XorgCtrlAltBackspace
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Thanks for your suggestion. However, the changes you are requesting
aren't really a bug and require more discussion, which should be done on
an appropriate mailing list or forum.
http://www.ubuntu.com/community/forums/ might be a good start.
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