Is this possible to reproduce using thermald built from
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon?
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thermald assert failure: *** stack
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CPU frequency stuck at minimum value..again Ubuntu 20.04.3
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There is no powerlimit via RAPL also here. Prochot can be generated by some
device on the system. We don't know the source.
If some old kernel works it is possible that newer kernel activated some new
device which is causing issue.
It is also possible that some device is now malfunctioning on
Also monitor
# cat /proc/interrupts | grep Thermal
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As Doug correctly described, there is a active prochot situation on the system,
so processor frequency is limited.
Can you dump:
#grep . /sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl/intel-rapl\:0/*
Also if you are able to boot the system without being stuck at 800MHz, can you
try
#echo 1 >
With the increase in power limit by 2W from the thermal tables results
in increase power for CPU driving to higher frequency may be saturating
GPU.
It will take some time to come up with some algorithm. May be part of
another power sharing daemon.
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Looks like some game mode daemon or program, which is changing parameters for
cpu frequency.
Like energy performance preference was changed to balance_power.
Need to find out what is that program, may be some tuning can be done there as
it knows game is going to be played.
Also this will be
balance_power is not a kernel default, so something on the system
running which is changing cpufreq parameters. "balamce_performance" is
the default.
Anyway thermald is setting the package power limit as per thermal
tables. There is no power sharing info in the tables.
We have this power sharing
Thanks. I can buy, I don't have gaming skills!
You already indicated that limiting cpu frequency or removing turbo boost helps.
I want to see if the energy_performance_preference or workload_request works.
"workload_request" will be the best as this is one setting for all CPUs.
If this works
It will also be great if you can specify how to download and play the
game to get to this condition.
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Thermald 1.9.1-1ubuntu0.6 keeps
In your current 5.10 kernel try this setting:
#for i in {0..7}; do echo balance_power >
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy$i/energy_performance_preference;
done
confirm with
for i in {0..7}; do cat
/sys/devices/system/cpu/cpufreq/policy$i/energy_performance_preference; done
balance_power
I have the same XPS 9310 with
5.11.0-34-generic #36-Ubuntu SMP Thu Aug 26 19:22:09 UTC 2021 x86_64 x86_64
x86_64 GNU/Linux
# tree /sys/bus/pci/devices/\:00\:04.0
/sys/bus/pci/devices/:00:04.0
...
...
├── uevent
├── vendor
└── workload_request
├── workload_available_types
└──
This is just long term package power limit after reaching 53C
"/sys/class/powercap/intel-rapl-mmio/intel-rapl-mmio\:0/device/intel-rapl-mmio\:0/constraint_0_power_limit_uw".
Doesn't include off package limit.
You need 5.11 kernel atleast for those workload controls. Tiger lake
controls patches
I can give you some other knob, please try that whether this improves
while playing this game.
#cd /sys/bus/pci/devices/:00:04.0/workload_request
#echo idle > workload_type
or
# echo bursty > workload_type
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Data from /sys/class/thermal are usually stale. They are left from previous
platforms. The actual limits comes from adaptive tables based on the condition
match. This is what OEM defined for the system.
Also without adaptive power limits are insane here.
Thermal doesn't reduce GPU frequency. It
There is a temperature sensor "THP" which has a limit of 53C. This
temperature exceeded which calls for thermal throttling to limit to 15W
by thermal tables on this system.
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Run the github version
#systemctl disable thermald
#thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=info --adaptive
Attach the log. It is possible that skin temperature a limit
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Try the upstream version
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon
May be missing some backports.
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Thermald 1.9.1-1ubuntu0.6 keeps
Try these steps.
First disable thermald
#systemctl disable thermald
reboot
Then run the script
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon/blob/master/test/thermal-debug-dump-ubuntu.sh
It will generate a tar file. Upload that.
Also continue to use the system after the test and see if you see the
I wish fan control worked.
I release v2.4.6 with the changes. This is in master branch with tag v2.4.6.
There are three commits on top of v2.4.5 to address this issue.
Please try.
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Thanks for the comment.
I would like to know something more about this system?
- Is this a desktop?
- Do you see any entry where /sys/class/thermal/cooling_device*/type = fan?
If you see can you control fan speed via
/sys/class/thermal/cooling_device*/cur_state
I will cleanup the change and
Please try this version
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon/tree/ubuntu-bug-1930422
checkout branch ubuntu-bug-1930422.
Then repeat comments at #11
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I see that this system doesn't have all expected table and has one
default table which has just one entry. So need some special
implementation. I will implement and send a branch to test.
But keep in mind that limit is set at 71C. So I know there will be complaints
that there is too much
Again I don't see any throttling.
With the version from
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon
Can you do
#systemctl disable thermald
reboot
from a command line
#thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=debug --adaptive
Attach the output
Alternatively you can just add --loglevel=debug instead of
Both logs looks same. I don't see any throttling.
This is a backported version of thermald in Ubuntu.
Can you run with upstream version of thermald
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon
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Edit /usr/lib/systemd/system/thermald.service to add option --loglevel=info.
Basically
/usr/sbin/thermald --systemd --dbus-enable --adaptive
changes to
/usr/sbin/thermald --systemd --dbus-enable --adaptive --loglevel=info
Then reboot and when you see the condition attach the output of
journalctl
If possible please try to build from
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon
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CPU frequency stuck at minimum value
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Please attach logs as suggested in comment #14 and comment #16.
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kidle_inject constantly running
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There is a patch in discussion to avoid thermal shutdown from kernel
Re: [PATCH 1/3] thermal: core: Add indication for userspace usage
from Kai-Heng Feng .
If that gets merged then we can disable int340x thermal shutdowns from
the kernel and let thermald manage shutdown. This gives opportunity
As per commeent #32, thermald helps here. But it is better to avoid kernel
shutdown for one bad temperarure sample instead of some running average. We
should have "mode" attribute so that we can avoid this by disabling the zone.
I will see what can be done to add "mode" attribute for these
# dpkg -l thermald | cat
Desired=Unknown/Install/Remove/Purge/Hold
| Status=Not/Inst/Conf-files/Unpacked/halF-conf/Half-inst/trig-aWait/Trig-pend
|/ Err?=(none)/Reinst-required (Status,Err: uppercase=bad)
||/ Name Version Architecture Description
** Tags removed: verification-needed verification-needed-focal
** Tags added: verification-done-focal
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Performance workaround for Dell
Used version
#apt list | grep thermald
thermald/now 1.9.1-1ubuntu0.2 amd64 [installed,local]
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Performance workaround for Dell 7390
The attached file contains two screen shots:
- power_limit_before.png (old version thermald/now 1.9.1-1ubuntu0.1 amd64)
- power_limit_after.png (new version thermald/now 1.9.1-1ubuntu0.2 amd64)
Under "stress" workload, the max power consumed is capped below 9W. With
the new version it is
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Performance workaround for Dell 7390 2-in-1 Ice Lake
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To reproduce this:
Boot Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)with 5.4 kernel.
Open two terminals:
-In the first terminal run the following command "turbostat --show PkgWatt"
-In the second terminal run some all CPU busy workload, like stress-ng or mprime
After few seconds turbostat will show that
Anything more is required this to be applied?
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I am not sure what is the thinkpad issue. Is it something new or old
which should have been fixed with dptfxtract and thermald?
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Power limits from this platform:
abuser@labuser-XPS-13-7390-2-in-1:/$ grep -r .
sys/bus/pci/devices/\:00\:04.0/power_limits/*
sys/bus/pci/devices/:00:04.0/power_limits/power_limit_0_max_uw:900
sys/bus/pci/devices/:00:04.0/power_limits/power_limit_0_min_uw:250
Please change this to "Confirmed".
As you can see the power limits, it will limit performance from what you can
get at 15W.
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Performance
** Description changed:
As reported here:
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/intel-linux/1174225-dell-xps-7390-intel-ice-lake-performance-hit-hard-by-a-linux-kernel-regression?view=stream
This primarily impacts "Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)." as it
Public bug reported:
As reported here:
https://www.phoronix.com/forums/forum/linux-graphics-x-org-drivers/intel-linux/1174225-dell-xps-7390-intel-ice-lake-performance-hit-hard-by-a-linux-kernel-regression?view=stream
This primarily impacts "Ubuntu 20.04 LTS (Focal Fossa)." as it switched to 5.4
It is not really used in the relationship file. So other OS may not be
using this so probably never validated the critical trips. Better to
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On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 20:54 +, Anton Keks wrote:
> No, normally it's below 60C.
>
> I can get it to 80C (and shutdown) when the AC is plugged in and
> charging the battery and I load my CPU a lot at the same time.
>
> Usually it means a video conference with several people and charging
> at
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 20:18 +, Anton Keks wrote:
> I have traced it to int3403_thermal module.
> If I do rmmod int3403_thermal - the thermal_zone3 goes away an no
> thermal shutdown is happening.
> I can use it as a workaround - but is it dangerous for the HW?
>
>
On Thu, 2020-04-16 at 07:22 +, Anton Keks wrote:
> 20.04 includes thermald 1.9.1, but it is not running by default.
>
> $ systemctl status thermald
> ● thermald.service - Thermal Daemon Service
> Loaded: loaded (/lib/systemd/system/thermald.service; disabled;
> vendor preset: enabled)
>
On Sat, 2019-08-17 at 05:24 +, Anthony Wong wrote:
> On Sat, Aug 17, 2019 at 1:05 AM Srinivas Pandruvada <
> srinivas.pandruv...@linux.intel.com> wrote:
>
> > The patch for changing TCC offset can only be in for 5.4 kernel.
> > Then
> > there will be no
The patch for changing TCC offset can only be in for 5.4 kernel. Then there
will be no MSR access.
So the option is to take out of mainline kernel patch to avoid this or avoid
workaround option.
I don't know if there are any other options.
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I think you are using with 5.3 kernel or using workaround option.
Without dptfxtract output or user manually created thermal-conf.xml or
using aurogenerated, this is risky to play with power as the skin will
hit limit.
Thanks,
Srinivas
On Thu, 2019-08-15 at 16:28 +, Anthony Wong
Hi,
Is this issue reproducible in the latest thermald 1.9 release? If yes, I want
to fix ASAP.
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Thermald does not set max CPU after
Please use the latest dptfxtract tool version 1.4.2.
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Update thermald to 1.9 release
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Rui submitted a patch to change to dev_notice()
https://git.kernel.org/pub/scm/linux/kernel/git/rzhang/linux.git/commit
/?h=next=3c7110fab805766450c5d2eac1c994d4c8c230d3
But with default log level in Ubuntu, I think dev_notice will be dumped
to dmesg. Is it correct?
I submitted another patch to
This is not a thermald bug. Linux doesn't have ABI to change PL1 limit
set via MMIO I/F as suggested in the link, so thermald can't us.
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This is not related to thermald and thermald may not fix this.
Rui is submitting a kernel patch to downgrade message level.
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You marked this for thermald bug.
Can you try this?
#systemctl disable thermald
reboot
then try to reproduce.
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Lenovo T480: throttling
Also can you attach acpi.out by issuing the following command
#acpidump > acpi.out
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kidle_inject constantly running
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Do we still have this issue?
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kidle_inject constantly running
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I suggest, disable thermald service first.
#systemctl diable thermald
then reboot
Then on a window
#thermald --loglevel=info --no-daemon
And do your regular work,
When you experience slow down, copy paste output of the thermald and
attach.
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These are kernel bugs, so better to file in kernel bugzilla.
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thermal thermal_zone4: failed to read out thermal zone (-61)
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dimahetman (dimahetman),
please also try as described in #18.
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Erratic behavior of CPU frequency control under load
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try running thermald in a window from command line.
systemctl stop thermald
#thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=info
Then do what triggers this, and attach the output of the above command.
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Good observation. We need to update man page.
I am looking for volunteer for updating man page.
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not use /etc/thermald/thermal-conf.xml
Glen:
Thanks for good suggestions. I will consider for next revision.
But problem in this bugzilla is addressed. This system has buggy
temperature threshold. OEM didn't find because Windows will not use any
more.
So with the change we really look if Windows would have used this
threshold based
I have pushed workaround for this. Please try the latest thermald
https://github.com/intel/thermal_daemon/tree/v1.7.2-test
This should show version 1.7.2 when you do thermald --version.
Please test and let me know if the problem is fixed. Reboot your system
to try new version, so that it will not
If /var/run points to tmpfs then you can't change. Let me update a new
version of thermald by working around this issue. But you have to build
it yourself and try.
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Thanks for providing the dump. Unfortunately the Spectre system has bad
thermal table values (Since Windows 10 is using more advanced tables,
manufacturer didn't notice bad values impact.). So there may be more
systems like this. So I want to implement some workaroud. Can you give
me dump of
#
/var/run/thermald/thermal-conf.xml.auto will not be regenerated, if
present, so you can edit.
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CPU frequency stuck at minimum value
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Can you also attach output of acpidump?
#acpidump > acpi.out
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Thanks for providing detailed logs. I see in the log:
"
cthd_sysfs_zone::read_cdev_trip_points: ZONE bound to CDEV status 0
Sorted trip dump zone index:5 type:B0D4:
index 2: type:passive temp:4 hyst:1000 zone id:5 sensor id:5 cdev size:0
"
So this is a problem in configuration of the
This seems to have wrong temperature threshold issue. 64C is too low threshold.
What is the dump of the following:
#grep -r . /sys/class/thermal/*
Meanwhile you can edit the file thermal-conf.xml.auto and change
*
to
95000
to make system usable.
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On Tue, 2018-04-17 at 11:56 +, Colin Ian King wrote:
> Ah, I'm mistaken, that gets loaded later. Do you mind supplying the
> list of modules loaded on your machine so I can see if I can find the
> driver that is failing on the thermal zone 4. Can you run:
>
> lsmod
>
I am thinking wifi. If
Please try 1.6 version. If still have problem then
# sudo systemctl stop thermald
# sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=debug
and send logs.
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Thanks Mike.
I would like to help to close the other issues pointed here on macbook and
others. But need debug logs like you provided. Also
grep -r . /sys/class/thermal/*
Also if there are some sysfs entries for fan control /sys/devices/platform or
others.
Looks like there is a way to control
Mike, for your issue 2 I have uploaded a change.
https://github.com/01org/thermal_daemon/commits/master
In systems like yours which runs close to critical the auto max adjustment
needs some better algorithm.
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Colin,
Do you have some auto builder which can make a test package for Mike? I added
one commit on my branch.
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Thermald is totally
Embedded controller controls fan and on many systems it will not allow
OS to control Fans. So thermald can't control unless user manually
configured to do (In that case he has some means to control speed from
sysfs).
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Mike,
For issue 2 please enter a new bug, I will explain in that what I see and
possible fix to try.
Let's not mix with fan speed control. thermald can control Fan speed if there
is a way to control Fan speed (namely called ACPI Fan or some proprietary
control like in thinkpad). man
I see that your load is bringing up temperature to 97C, which is one
less than critical temp 98C of your system. So whatever cooling of your
device without thermald is pretty bad. So your device can reboot any
time. Also your BIOS locked good power control method, so can't use.
Let me see if I
Jérôme,
Thermald didn't even start on your system.
"Unsupported cpu model, use thermal-conf.xml file or run with
--ignore-cpuid-check
THD engine start failed"
I don't know how this can be cause of you slow down.
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You can always increase the throttling temp as described in"man
thermald"
# dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.thermald
/org/freedesktop/thermald
org.freedesktop.thermald.SetUserPassiveTemperature string:cpu
uint32:9
Also before you do that
# stop thermald
# thermald --no-daemon
@Graham,
I see you attached kernel log, but doesn't have boot time log. Can you
just boot the system and
# dmesg | grep "locked by BIOS"
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Can you do the following and run your loads:
# sudo systemctl stop thermald
# sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=debug
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#!16
Kasper Peeters (kasper-peeters), atleast you can provide logs, by doing
the following and run whatever workloads yo do on macbook
#systemctl stop thermald
#thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=debug
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To really debug this, need logs. There may be number of causes if the
temperature is not really high.
There may be wrong powerlimits configured in RAPL registers. So it is better to
debug for good.
#systemctl stop thermald
#thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=debug
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> @SunBear
>
> I'm also having issues with these apparent errors:
>
> thermald[1309]: 13 CPUID levels; family:model:stepping 0x6:3c:3
> (6:60:3)
> thermald[1309]: Polling mode is enabled: 4
> thermald[1309]: sysfs write failed enable
I ran on 4.8, I don't see those errors. Can you run on command line?
# sudo systemctl stop thermald
# sudo thermald --no-daemon --loglevel=debug
I want to see which sysfs write is causing issue.
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sysfs paths can't change, so need to look at the kernel. I didn't add
any new stuff between 4.4 to 4.8 in kernel. I will look into this.
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Basically sysfs writes are failing with 4.8 kernel, so all those errors
in http://paste.ubuntu.com/23207813/.
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thermald doesn't seem to
This is upto you what you want to do with your system. Don't judge
system heat with Fan speed. If you want debug, provide logs with log
level suggested.
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I am interested in seeing run with loglevel=debug. They are kicked at 10C below
TJMAX and you can be shutdown by kernel any moment as the temperature can swing
5-10C immediately.
If someone don't care about life of the system or shutdowns they can increase
this setting by setting one time dbus
_TRT and _ART are optional. If not the algorithm falls to default to do
CPU passive control. The thermald controls are complimentary to was BIOS
is doing. If for any reason of the BIOS controls or fan is not able to
bring temperature down thermald will act, it will work as this will
reduce the cpu
As Colin suggested about the three errors related to _TRT and _ART, they
will appear once during startup. I see many folks confused about this,
so I downgraded this error in my tree.
https://github.com/01org/thermal_daemon/commit/8280fd7ec6cff6db6463c8a1b01d2e427e418226
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I think you just wanted to lower your temperature threshold. If that's
what you want, then you can just send
dbus-send --system --dest=org.freedesktop.thermald
/org/freedesktop/thermald
org.freedesktop.thermald.SetUserPassiveTemperature string:cpu
uint32:59000
This setting is saved,
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Author: Srinivas Pandruvada <srinivas.pandruv...@intel.com>
Date: Thu Feb 18 11:33:50 2016 -0800
Regression for default config file
f99f2b59fbbca04a13cad3f7d2dbc985bc7ee0cd caused regression
where for Android the default path is c
This is not a bug as not all platforms have these tables. We need to
downgrade the severity of these log messages.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1568123
Title:
error messages about
0x2d, 0x3e, and 0x3f are Xeon parts, where we don't want thermald to
start.
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1480349
Title:
thermald breaks frequency scaling in Xeon® E5-2687W v3 &
@Colin
I want to see if there is a race condition, by changing runlevel to 5 without
any other change. What do we need to change in systemd service file?
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I up still not sure about the root cause. Can anybody help on collecting
startup logs (journalctl -b)?
Can we just change runlevel to 5 and see if the problem is fixed.If there is a
race condition in loading then this should address this.
@Colin, What changes are required to run at run level 5?
Very strange. From the logs thermald didn't take any action. Then also the
problem seems to be fixed.
Can you let thermald run for few minutes in the same way and collect logs?
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I think it has to do with the starting of thermald too early while driver
modules are not ready.
@Chris:
Can you attach thermald logs (when started by systemd) and also by disabling
and started by command line?
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