[Bug 247980] Re: Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2010-09-16 Thread kpoole
Okay, this has gotten silly.  The problem was reported, a fix released
for Intrepid but not backported to Hardy two years ago.  The last
previous update before it was just upgraded to medium was over a year
ago and I think all of us LTS types have probably upgraded from Hardy to
Lucid by now.  I actually just did last weekend after waiting for the
point release.  I've tested the behaviour I was reporting as a bug and
find that it works as expected in Lucid.

Let's just call this fixed and close it in such a way that it can't be
updated again.

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-11-05 Thread kpoole
philinux wrote:
 Intrepid clean install. Just transferred files with gthumb and the timestamps 
 are not preserved. However copying with nautilus, while painfully slow keeps 
 the correct timestamps.
 Canon G5 camera. And it gets mounted correclty.

   
Now I see why Sebastian was having such a time trying to keep the camera 
related issues separate from the Nautilus related issues.

This was a bug report started for Nautilus NOT preserving timestamps 
in Hardy Heron.  Your comment about your troubles with gthumb indicates 
that Nautilus IS preserving timestamps in Intrepid Ibex.

As was suggested to me so long ago.  Look for a gthumb bug to append 
your comment to or start a new gthumb bug.

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Re: [Bug 247980] Re: Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-10-10 Thread kpoole
Launchpad Bug Tracker wrote:
 This bug was fixed in the package gvfs - 0.99.6-0ubuntu1

 ---
 gvfs (0.99.6-0ubuntu1) intrepid; urgency=low

   * New upstream version:
- Better cross-backend copy/move logic. Now will perform an actual file
  system move if possible, even when the source and target are handled
  by different backends
 - Now requires libsoup = 2.23.91.
 - Bug fixes
 548841 - Incorrect usage of plural forms in gphoto backend
 547133 - Getting mtime over http backend is broken (lp: #247980)
 538573 - lastmodified uses ISO 8601 date/time where it should use 
 http-date
 549253 - error path leaks
 549553 - gvfs mangles uri for unhandled schemes
 550100 - gio uses 10^3 base (SI) for volume names
 529971 - Restore from trash appears to do a file copy (lp: #222150)
 RH 460223 - gnome-mount no longer automatically opens LUKS-encrypted
 partitions

  -- Sebastien Bacher [EMAIL PROTECTED]   Tue, 02 Sep 2008 11:49:45
 +0200

 ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

   
I notice this is fixed in Intrepid.  I'm running Heron and had planned 
to for a while yet.  Is there any hope that this will be backported to 
Heron?

I'm going to download the Intrepid beta to see if this is really fixed 
as expected and decide from there if this is enough to switch from heron 
earlier than planned.  I have found an inelegant workaround in a Firefox 
add-on while I'm in Heron.

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 the issue is not a lack of interest but a lack of manpower, there is
 thousand bugs opened and only a small team to work on those, the photo
 issue is a different one and seems to be a libgphoto one, see bug #49906
 for example, the issue is not new in hardy

   
Your referenced bug 49906 has nothing to do with my mentioned problem 
with Firefox.  You keep trying to re-direct my problem with Firefox as a 
problem with some program that imports pictures from cameras.

As a test I've re-installed Ubuntu 7.10 on a machine and confirmed that 
when a file is dragged and dropped from the Firefox window to a 
directory in a Nautilus window the last modified time from the web site 
is preserved.  I then installed Firefox 3.0 on that Ubuntu 7.10 machine 
and find that the last modified time stamp IS STILL PRESERVED in such a 
drag and drop operation.  Now I guess I'd have to see if they've 
backported the version of Nautilus from Ubuntu 8.04 to 7.10 to see if 
the time stamp preservation behavior is still preserved.  Would that 
indicate that the problem is not with Firefox?

And, please do not tell me this is something to do with camera photo 
importing.  I'm not using a camera, I'm not importing photos from a camera

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[Bug 247980] Re: Firefox losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
** Description changed:

  This seemed to be part of 215499 but Sebastian denies it being a
  Nautilus problem.
  
  Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image
  could be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites,
  to a folder displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and
  last modified time stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to
  Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 the filename is still preserved but the last
  modified time stamp is now updated to the current system time.
  
  If one uses wget to retrieve the file the last modified time stamp is
  preserved, which indicates that the remote mtime time stamp is still
  accessible, but this is a poor backup to what used to be a simple drag
  and drop operation.
  
  As an example
  http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/037/6/c/Fancy_Belt_by_baba49.jpg
- can be dragged from Firefox to a folder and gets the current timestamp
- where a wget preserves the remote mtime stamp of 06 Feb 2006 07:22;21
- PM.
+ can be dragged from Firefox to a folder and gets the current system time
+ as the last modified time stamp where a wget preserves the remote mtime
+ stamp of 06 Feb 2006 07:22;21 PM.
  
  You may not believe me but I swear these were preserved in the Ubuntu
  7.10 with Firefox 2.
+ 
+ Addition:  As a result of other discussions, I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on
+ a spare machine and confirmed that the last modified time stamps were
+ being preserved in this drag and drop operation.  I also installed the
+ Ubuntu 7.10 available Firefox 3.0 alpha and find the last modified time
+ stamps are still preserved.  I haven't found a Nautilus 2.22.3
+ backported to 7.10 to continue the test to see if the timestamps are
+ lost when Nautilus 2.22.3 is introduced into the situation.  I might
+ have to go back to the Nautilus website and get the tar.gz and try to
+ install it but that will be when I have some more time to devote to
+ this.

** Tags added: firefox nautilus stamp time

** Summary changed:

- Firefox losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder
+ Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

** Description changed:

- This seemed to be part of 215499 but Sebastian denies it being a
- Nautilus problem.
  
  Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image
  could be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites,
  to a folder displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and
  last modified time stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to
  Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 the filename is still preserved but the last
  modified time stamp is now updated to the current system time.
  
  If one uses wget to retrieve the file the last modified time stamp is
  preserved, which indicates that the remote mtime time stamp is still
  accessible, but this is a poor backup to what used to be a simple drag
  and drop operation.
  
  As an example
  http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/037/6/c/Fancy_Belt_by_baba49.jpg
  can be dragged from Firefox to a folder and gets the current system time
  as the last modified time stamp where a wget preserves the remote mtime
  stamp of 06 Feb 2006 07:22;21 PM.
  
  You may not believe me but I swear these were preserved in the Ubuntu
  7.10 with Firefox 2.
  
  Addition:  As a result of other discussions, I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on
  a spare machine and confirmed that the last modified time stamps were
  being preserved in this drag and drop operation.  I also installed the
  Ubuntu 7.10 available Firefox 3.0 alpha and find the last modified time
  stamps are still preserved.  I haven't found a Nautilus 2.22.3
  backported to 7.10 to continue the test to see if the timestamps are
  lost when Nautilus 2.22.3 is introduced into the situation.  I might
  have to go back to the Nautilus website and get the tar.gz and try to
  install it but that will be when I have some more time to devote to
  this.

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 the bug you are commenting on was an issue about nautilus standard
 copies, no about photos, not about firefox, and it has been fixed. if
 you have an another issue open a new bug as it has been done for the
 photo copies timestamp issue

   
And If I do open one it would be under Nautilus, Correct?  As I don't 
see it as a Firefox Problem.

But you don't see it as a Nautilus problem.  So it would be ignored.

However, there is a bug open under 247980 and it seems to have been 
ignored so far. 

Of course, I'm new to reporting bugs because this is the first change in 
behavior in a negative direction that I've run into so far since 
starting with Ubuntu 6.6.

Anyway, you've convinced me that it's useless to pursue it here, maybe 
period.  I'll just have to get used to using wgets instead of drag and 
drops.

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 nautilus can have several issues, why do you insist to want to use this
 code issue which was a libglib bug and has been fixed now? bug #247980
 seems to describe this one so you should rather comment on this one, not
 sure why the firefox maintainer didn't reply but I expect there is just
 too many bugs being open against firefox for him to work on everything

   
I expect the Firefox Maintainer hasn't responded to it because copying 
files saves the last mtime stamp from the site when doing a copy with 
Firefox 2 or Firefox 3 working with Nautilus 2.20.0 under Ubuntu 7.10 
and the last mtime is lost when doing the same operation from either 
Firefox 2 or Firefox 3 when copying to a folder in Nautilus 2.22.3 under 
Ubuntu 8.04

To make sure this behavior is as reported I have two machines, one with 
Ubuntu 7.10 and Firefox 2 and Firefox 3 and another separate machine 
with Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 2 and Firefox 3.

Why should the Firefox maintainer think there is something wrong with 
Firefox when the two versions do the job with Nautilus 2.20.0 under 
Ubuntu 7.10 but not with Nautilus 2.22.3 under Ubuntu 8.04?  What looks 
like the common point of failure among these programs?

I'd love to have you explain it to me offside if you want.  The 
questions might be In a drag and drop  operation who ends up taking 
charge of the copy function, the sender, Firefox 2 or 3, or the 
receiver, Nautilus?  If it's the sender, Firefox 2 or 3, then why do 
they send different information to Nautilus 2.20.0 and Nautilus 2.22.3?  
If it's the receiver, then when after 2.20.0 did Nautilus stop asking 
for the complete information about the files coming from Firefox 2 or 3?

No, sorry, I haven't tried backporting Nautilus 2.22.3 to Ubuntu 7.10
yet.

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[Bug 247980] Re: Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
Sorry, Steve, don't know how this got here.  I marked it invalid for
you.

** Description changed:

  
- Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image
- could be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites,
- to a folder displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and
- last modified time stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to
- Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 the filename is still preserved but the last
- modified time stamp is now updated to the current system time.
+ Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image could 
be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites, to a folder 
displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and last modified time 
stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 
the filename is still preserved but the last modified time stamp is now updated 
to the current system time.
  
  If one uses wget to retrieve the file the last modified time stamp is
  preserved, which indicates that the remote mtime time stamp is still
  accessible, but this is a poor backup to what used to be a simple drag
  and drop operation.
  
  As an example
  http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/037/6/c/Fancy_Belt_by_baba49.jpg
  can be dragged from Firefox to a folder and gets the current system time
  as the last modified time stamp where a wget preserves the remote mtime
  stamp of 06 Feb 2006 07:22;21 PM.
  
  You may not believe me but I swear these were preserved in the Ubuntu
  7.10 with Firefox 2.
  
  Addition:  As a result of other discussions, I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on
  a spare machine and confirmed that the last modified time stamps were
  being preserved in this drag and drop operation.  I also installed the
  Ubuntu 7.10 available Firefox 3.0 alpha and find the last modified time
  stamps are still preserved.  I haven't found a Nautilus 2.22.3
  backported to 7.10 to continue the test to see if the timestamps are
  lost when Nautilus 2.22.3 is introduced into the situation.  I might
  have to go back to the Nautilus website and get the tar.gz and try to
  install it but that will be when I have some more time to devote to
  this.
+ 
+ Further addition: I have also installed FIrefox 2 on my Ubuntu 8.10
+ machine so I can be certain that under Ubuntu 7.10 with Nautilus 2.20.0
+ mtime stamps are preserved when copying a file from Firefox 2 or 3 to a
+ Nautilus folder and that these same mtime stamps are lost when using
+ Firefox 2 or 3 to copy a file to a Nautilus folder in Nautilus 2.22.3
+ under Ubuntu 8.04.

** Changed in: glib2.0 (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Invalid

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[Bug 247980] Re: Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
** Description changed:

- 
- Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image could 
be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites, to a folder 
displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and last modified time 
stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 
the filename is still preserved but the last modified time stamp is now updated 
to the current system time.
+ Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image
+ could be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites,
+ to a folder displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and
+ last modified time stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to
+ Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 the filename is still preserved but the last
+ modified time stamp is now updated to the current system time.
  
  If one uses wget to retrieve the file the last modified time stamp is
  preserved, which indicates that the remote mtime time stamp is still
  accessible, but this is a poor backup to what used to be a simple drag
  and drop operation.
  
  As an example
  http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/037/6/c/Fancy_Belt_by_baba49.jpg
  can be dragged from Firefox to a folder and gets the current system time
  as the last modified time stamp where a wget preserves the remote mtime
  stamp of 06 Feb 2006 07:22;21 PM.
  
  You may not believe me but I swear these were preserved in the Ubuntu
  7.10 with Firefox 2.
  
  Addition:  As a result of other discussions, I installed Ubuntu 7.10 on
  a spare machine and confirmed that the last modified time stamps were
  being preserved in this drag and drop operation.  I also installed the
  Ubuntu 7.10 available Firefox 3.0 alpha and find the last modified time
  stamps are still preserved.  I haven't found a Nautilus 2.22.3
  backported to 7.10 to continue the test to see if the timestamps are
  lost when Nautilus 2.22.3 is introduced into the situation.  I might
  have to go back to the Nautilus website and get the tar.gz and try to
  install it but that will be when I have some more time to devote to
  this.
  
  Further addition: I have also installed FIrefox 2 on my Ubuntu 8.10
  machine so I can be certain that under Ubuntu 7.10 with Nautilus 2.20.0
  mtime stamps are preserved when copying a file from Firefox 2 or 3 to a
  Nautilus folder and that these same mtime stamps are lost when using
  Firefox 2 or 3 to copy a file to a Nautilus folder in Nautilus 2.22.3
  under Ubuntu 8.04.
+ 
+ Last edit: Sorry to trouble everyone.  We'll just call this a horrible
+ mistake and I'll ask that someone cancel any further action on it.  I
+ can't find a cancelled status to give it.

** Tags removed: firefox nautilus stamp time

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 why did you open the other bug on firefox if you think that's not a
 firefox issue?

   
It can't be opened as a Nautilus problem.  All your previous arguments 
were that it must be something other than Nautilus.  I'm unfamiliar with 
the process of opening a new bug so if it became a Firefox problem that 
might be because I put Firefox in the name.

At this point I'll just say that it's all a wash and cancel the bug 
report and stick to using wget.  It's a dang nuisance compared to what 
was available before but less of a problem than trying to satisfy the 
bug reporting process.

I had written a longer note about this but, really, there's no point.

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[Bug 247980] Re: Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = kpoole (ken-poole)
   Status: New = Invalid

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Re: [Bug 247980] Re: Firefox/Nautilus losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-08-09 Thread kpoole
Tormod Volden wrote:
 Why did you close the bug by marking it invalid? And do not assign it to
 yourself unless you intend to fix it yourself.

 ** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
  Assignee: kpoole (ken-poole) = (unassigned)
Status: Invalid = New

   
Just for the record and because I really hate to leave questions 
unanswered, having given up on the bug and being unfamiliar with the 
system I hoped that I'd find an option to simply close a bug that was 
assigned to me, likening the bug tracking system to the trouble tracking 
systems I was used to.  It's not.

Making it invalid was the last hope that the system would then clear it 
out.  I wouldn't expect the system to hang onto invalid bugs.

Thanks for confirming the bug.

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-08-08 Thread kpoole
philinux wrote:
 I've raised a bug for the camera issue.  Bug 242647.

 But it doesn't seem to have had any attention. I had to buy a card
 reader and use cp.

   
Yes, there's a core interest here and any thing outside of that core is 
disregarded.  I actually found a separate Firefox add-on that takes care 
of the problem I was having.  It's a shame that a behavior that seemed 
to be part of Nautilus has to be taken over by add-ons to other programs.

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Re: [Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-08-08 Thread kpoole
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 the issue is not a lack of interest but a lack of manpower, there is
 thousand bugs opened and only a small team to work on those, the photo
 issue is a different one and seems to be a libgphoto one, see bug #49906
 for example, the issue is not new in hardy

   
Again, you've tied this to a problem in a photo package, not me.  The 
problem I tried to report was that files dragged from Firefox to a 
directory opened with Nautilus were no longer retaining the last 
modified times available from the web site.  You've always tied this to 
someone else's problem with a camera/photo package.

As it turns out, I've found a workaround but it's not as elegant as the 
simple drag and drop that was available and the problem as I saw it 
still exists.  I've reported it as a general problem and that I cannot 
identify a particular package because some what to call it a Firefox 
problem, others a Nautilus problem and others a photo package problem.

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[Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-07-12 Thread kpoole
I'll need some help getting this to the right group but it seems there
is a larger problem here.

People have reported a bug or feature in that Nautilus was not
preserving timestamps, in particular, the file modification date, when
doing file copies.  I see the comments that this has been fixed and I
can confirm that in Nautilus I can copy a file from one folder to
another and the modification dates are preserved but ...  and this is
where it gets sticky ...  I can see that other are having troubles with
camera import and I've noticed that this same loss of modification
timestamp is happening when I copy an image from Firefox to a folder or
to the Desktop.  Does Nautilus handle copies from applications to the
Desktop as well?

In 7.10 and previous and only where I could drag and drop an image from
Firefox to a folder, the timestamp was also preserved and that behavior
has changed as well in 8.04.

You may not consider this important but it says to me that something has
changed deeper down than just Nautilus.  You've changed Nautilus to
preserve timestamps but the behavior continues with other applications
and I doubt that each of these other applications have each decided to
not preserve the modification date timestamp on their own at the same
time.  Unless, Nautilus is managing all these copies and the patch to
preserve timestamps has only been written to correct the problem when
copying between folders.

There are a few of us who use these timestamps to help keep order in our
collections of images and when I moved to Ubuntu and found these were
preserved in so many cases, it was like a Godsend.  Please do find where
this bug or feature can be correctly moved to preserve the dates
across the applications.

Many Thanks.

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[Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-07-12 Thread kpoole
My comment wasn't just about the camera issue.  I'be found the same
change in behavior when copying a file from Firefox to the desktop or a
folder.

But, give me a suggestion then.  Do I open a bug with the Firefox people
or with the Gnome people or with the Ubuntu people?  It just seems odd
that several different applications all report the same problem, the
same change of behavior at the same time as 8.04 comes out.  Did they
all decide not to preserve timestamps at the same time or is it
something in the system?  Who handles copying a file from an application
window to the Desktop or a folder?

I notice that there is always a copy of Nautilus in the background and a
new one will start up when the old one is killed.  That prompts me to
believe that, perhaps, Nautilus is overseeing the copying functions in
the Gnome environment.  Unfortunately, I'm running on empirical data so
I can only work with what I see happening and telling me something isn't
so doesn't change that.

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[Bug 215499] Re: Nautilus not preserving timestamps

2008-07-12 Thread kpoole
It's an easy thing to say when the person you're saying it to can't
refute it.  The combination of behavior changes is an odd coincidence,
though.  It speaks of multiple points of failure which is less likely
than a single point of failure.  (I know, you don't think anything has
failed but we who have come to depend on a particular behavior do.)

As far as the test of dragging and dropping from Firefox to Konqueror in
Kubuntu, for example, it doesn't work as it does in Ubuntu with
Nautilus.  The nice behavior in Gnome/Firefox/Nautilus was that you
could drag and image from a webpage in Firefox to a folder in Nautilus
or the Gnome desktop and the drag would pull in the filename and
timestamps along with the file.  I'm using Ubuntu with both Nautilus and
Konqueror (there are features under each that the other doesn't do that
I like.) and under Gnome/Konqueror you have to stop and type in a
filename for the dragged file.

To be fair, I'll install a pure Kubuntu machine and see what happens.
If the behavior on Kubuntu has changed so that a drag and drop from
Firefox to a folder acts as I expected on Gnome/Nautilus then I'll
likely just switch from Ubuntu to Kubuntu.

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[Bug 247980] [NEW] Firefox losing mtime stamp on file copy to folder

2008-07-12 Thread kpoole
Public bug reported:

This seemed to be part of 215499 but Sebastian denies it being a
Nautilus problem.

Under 7.10 and Firefox 2, there was a behavior available where an image
could be dragged and dropped from a website, not all but some websites,
to a folder displayed by Nautilus or the Desktop and the filename and
last modified time stamp were preserved in the copy.  Since upgrading to
Ubuntu 8.04 and Firefox 3 the filename is still preserved but the last
modified time stamp is now updated to the current system time.

If one uses wget to retrieve the file the last modified time stamp is
preserved, which indicates that the remote mtime time stamp is still
accessible, but this is a poor backup to what used to be a simple drag
and drop operation.

As an example
http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs9/i/2006/037/6/c/Fancy_Belt_by_baba49.jpg
can be dragged from Firefox to a folder and gets the current timestamp
where a wget preserves the remote mtime stamp of 06 Feb 2006 07:22;21
PM.

You may not believe me but I swear these were preserved in the Ubuntu
7.10 with Firefox 2.

** Affects: ubuntu
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: New

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Re: [Bug 103392] WOW thx for this

2008-01-20 Thread kpoole
jb90123 wrote:
 Thx you very much for posting these steps ya im kinda a newbie at this
 and after i did a update and it wouldnt show i was like omg XD well thx
 again for uploading this

   
Very nice to hear that someone else is still benefiting from my little 
bug report. 

It's interesting that you lost the application buttons after an update.  
It may have been so for me as well but there are so many updates (a good 
thing, really) that I can't say for sure now.

I'm still amazed by the flexibility we find in Linux and Ubuntu.  Good 
luck finding your way around.

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Re: [Bug 103392] Re: no button for active applications in taskbar, cannot recover app if minimized

2007-09-22 Thread kpoole
sebasmagri wrote:
 Could anybody please describes the solution procedure for a newbie?

   
It was embarrassing because it meant I didn't understand the system as 
well as I thought I did.

The 'Taskbar' (carrying a name over from Windows) is a very customizable 
thing.  It comprises one or more panels and the contents of those panels 
are all optional.  Even the buttons for active applications are an option.

Right click on the 'Taskbar' or panel to get a Selection menu with 'Add 
to Panel' as the top item.  Under that should be 'Properties' and 
'Delete this Panel'.  Select the 'Add to Panel' option and you'll get 
another dialog box titled 'Add to Panel' with sections for 
'Accessories', 'Desktop  Windows', 'System  Hardware' and 
'Utilities'.  These are all items that can be added to the panel in the 
'Taskbar'.

Under 'Desktop  Windows'  is a 'Window List' item.  Select that and 
click '+Add'  to put that item on the panel.  Adding that will show a 
button for each windowed application running on the desktop.

There are so many items there I wonder that there can be room for more 
than a few but, of course, you can create multiple 'taskbars' or panels 
and specialize them for different uses.  Some of the items can be 
positioned manually and then locked in position on the panel.  You'll 
have to explore a bit with some right clicks on the different items in 
the panel.

Good luck.

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Re: [Bug 103392] Re: no button for active applications in taskbar, cannot recover app if minimized

2007-09-22 Thread kpoole
Glad to be able to pass on the help I got when I ran into the problem.  
The thing I still can't figure, though, is how I lost the window list at 
the time.  :-)

Take care.


sebasmagri wrote:
 Thanks man... it's fine now...

 And excuse me...

 Greetings from Venezuela...

 2007/9/22, kpoole [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
   
 sebasmagri wrote:
 
 Could anybody please describes the solution procedure for a newbie?


   
 It was embarrassing because it meant I didn't understand the system as
 well as I thought I did.

 The 'Taskbar' (carrying a name over from Windows) is a very customizable
 thing.  It comprises one or more panels and the contents of those panels
 are all optional.  Even the buttons for active applications are an option.

 Right click on the 'Taskbar' or panel to get a Selection menu with 'Add
 to Panel' as the top item.  Under that should be 'Properties' and
 'Delete this Panel'.  Select the 'Add to Panel' option and you'll get
 another dialog box titled 'Add to Panel' with sections for
 'Accessories', 'Desktop  Windows', 'System  Hardware' and
 'Utilities'.  These are all items that can be added to the panel in the
 'Taskbar'.

 Under 'Desktop  Windows'  is a 'Window List' item.  Select that and
 click '+Add'  to put that item on the panel.  Adding that will show a
 button for each windowed application running on the desktop.

 There are so many items there I wonder that there can be room for more
 than a few but, of course, you can create multiple 'taskbars' or panels
 and specialize them for different uses.  Some of the items can be
 positioned manually and then locked in position on the panel.  You'll
 have to explore a bit with some right clicks on the different items in
 the panel.

 Good luck.

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[Bug 103392] Re: no button for active applications in taskbar, cannot recover app if minimized

2007-04-16 Thread kpoole
Your suggestion worked and I thought I'd sent a reply to you.  Closing 
this is fine.  No other action needed.

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[Bug 50347] Re: install fails with no mount points after gparted

2007-04-08 Thread kpoole
I'd since downloaded a later copy of Ubuntu 6.06 and not had any problem
with it so thought this had been sorted out.  I've been using the Ubuntu
6.06 as my main machine since last year.  Since the bug lasted this long
unattended and I've had no problem with later downloads I'll assume it
was a problem with that particular burn.

I've recently downloaded copies of Ubuntu, Kubuntu and Xubuntu 7.04
betas to try and have them all installed on a single machine for easy
switching.  I haven't run into any installation problems with them and
just haveto collect up some info so I can create a new menu for grub.

Overall, I'm pleased with the Ubuntu system and have a friend who's made
the switch and another considering it.  In particular, I'm looking
forward to see the result of the blending or Cannonical and Linspire.  I
might put up a Kubuntu machine if the multimedia capabilities are
particularly strong there.

If I can make the suggestion, we can close this as a newbie problem
since I have a working Ubuntu system partitioned and installed from an
later Ubuntu dvd.

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[Bug 103392] no button for active applications in taskbar, cannot recover app if minimized

2007-04-05 Thread kpoole
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: gnome-panel

lost the buttons yesterday after an update and reboot.

ProblemType: Bug
Architecture: i386
Date: Thu Apr  5 10:36:32 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04
ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/gnome-panel
Package: gnome-panel 2.18.0-0ubuntu3
PackageArchitecture: i386
ProcCmdline: gnome-panel --sm-client-id default1
ProcCwd: /home/kpoole
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
 LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
SourcePackage: gnome-panel
Uname: Linux feisty 2.6.20-13-generic #2 SMP Sun Mar 25 00:21:25 UTC 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux

** Affects: gnome-panel (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 103392] Re: no button for active applications in taskbar, cannot recover app if minimized

2007-04-05 Thread kpoole

** Attachment added: Dependencies.txt
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** Attachment added: ProcMaps.txt
   http://librarian.launchpad.net/7171636/ProcMaps.txt

** Attachment added: ProcStatus.txt
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[Bug 103392] Re: no button for active applications in taskbar, cannot recover app if minimized

2007-04-05 Thread kpoole
note that I have firefox open but there is nothing in bottom panel to
correspond to it.

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Re: [Bug 93596] Re: [apport] xsane crashed with SIGSEGV in realloc()

2007-03-21 Thread kpoole
Sebastien Bacher wrote:
 Thanks for your bug report. The crash looks like a memory corruption.
 Could you try to get a valgrind log for it (you can follow the
 instructions from https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Valgrind for that)?

 ** Changed in: xsane (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Medium
Status: Unconfirmed = Needs Info

   
I'll try for that but I'm also interested in why Xsane is trying to take 
a scan from the TV tuner card and not even acknowledging the HP PSC-1315 
printer/scanner that's attached.  I also have a Kunbuntu 6.06 that I can 
load on the system (remove-able hard drives) and Xsane there doesn't try 
for the TV tuner card and just uses the printer/scanner.

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[Bug 93596] [apport] xsane crashed with SIGSEGV in realloc()

2007-03-18 Thread kpoole
Public bug reported:

Binary package hint: xsane

Xsnae crashes while trying to aqquire a scan from the Hauppauge pvr250
installed in my system.  This is unfortunate because I'd really rather
it try to take a scan from the HP PSC1315 printer/scanner I have as
well.  I cannot find an option to change the scanning source.

ProblemType: Crash
Architecture: i386
CrashCounter: 1
Date: Sun Mar 18 22:43:55 2007
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 7.04
ExecutablePath: /usr/bin/xsane
Package: xsane 0.99+0.991-1ubuntu2
PackageArchitecture: i386
ProcCmdline: xsane
ProcCwd: /home/kpoole
ProcEnviron:
 PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games
 LANG=en_CA.UTF-8
 SHELL=/bin/bash
Signal: 11
SourcePackage: xsane
StacktraceTop:
 realloc () from /lib/tls/i686/cmov/libc.so.6
 g_realloc () from /usr/lib/libglib-2.0.so.0
 g_object_weak_ref () from /usr/lib/libgobject-2.0.so.0
 g_object_add_weak_pointer ()
 ?? () from /usr/lib/libgdk-x11-2.0.so.0
Uname: Linux feisty 2.6.20-11-generic #2 SMP Thu Mar 15 08:03:07 UTC 2007 i686 
GNU/Linux
UserGroups: adm admin audio cdrom dialout dip floppy lpadmin netdev plugdev 
powerdev scanner video

** Affects: xsane (Ubuntu)
 Importance: Undecided
 Status: Unconfirmed

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[Bug 93596] Re: [apport] xsane crashed with SIGSEGV in realloc()

2007-03-18 Thread kpoole

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[Bug 50347] Re: install fails with no mount points after gparted

2006-06-21 Thread kpoole
On a whim I tried the KDE installer DVD.  I see the prcess goes through
all the steps, through assigning mount points and produces a bootable
system.  All that's needed is to find the difference between the cd and
dvd install process.

For my needs, I'll hang in with the Kubuntu DVD for now and install the
regular Ubuntu desktop after the KDE has been installed.

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