[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
Installed the prereleased libsane-common, libsane1, sane-utils: - libsane-common is already the newest version (1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2). - libsane1 is already the newest version

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread PeterPall
** Description changed: Impact == - The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1 "to match with the soname" apparently to fix a Lintian warning. + The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1-experimental "to match with the soname". This apparently fixes a Lintian warning.

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread PeterPall
The same happens here: Cannot install any plug-ins as they depend on libsane the default way: What I have installed is libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2 which isn't named "libsane". Forcing the install still means that neither my Brother nor my Epson scanner is detected even with the new

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread Jeremy Bicha
staedtler-przyborski, are you sure that you installed libsane1 1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2 ? Try prefixing your terminal command with LANGUAGE=C.UTF-8 to get English translations. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread PeterPall
The next question would be if things would now work if libsane1 would contain a "provides libsane". Would it be possible for you to install esci-interpreter-gt-f720 ignoring the missing dependency? I think the command that does do this would be: sudo dpkg -i --force-depends

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread staedtler-przyborski
Im sorry but https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane- backends/1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2 doesn't solve the problem. This is what I get when I want to install my Epson V300 (sorry comments are in german, but I'm sure you understand what goes wrong: libsane is missing): Hinweis: »libsane1«

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-19 Thread Andy Whitcroft
Hello PeterPall, or anyone else affected, Accepted sane-backends into artful-proposed. The package will build now and be available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane- backends/1.0.27-1~experimental2ubuntu2 in a few hours, and then in the -proposed repository. Please help us by testing

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-18 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: sane-backends (Debian) Status: Fix Released => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread PeterPall
** Description changed: Impact == The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1 "to match with the soname" apparently to fix a Lintian warning. libsane 1.0.25 in zesty includes libsane.so.1.25 libsane1 1.0.27 in artful includes libsane.so.1.27 This appears to be no

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread PeterPall
In the above I didn't copy-and-paste the additional info that about 100 packages can be autoremoved after removing libsane1 because after removing all applications that depend on gtk many libraries are unused. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread PeterPall
@dino99: You cannot sqitch the zesty version any more. At least if you want your computer have a working graphical user interface: lib colord depends in libsane1 - and colord on libcolord. And gnome on colord: gunter@Marius:~$ sudo apt-get remove libcolord2 Reading package lists... Done Building

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Description changed: Impact == The Debian maintainer renamed libsane to libsane1 "to match with the soname" apparently to fix a Lintian warning. libsane 1.0.25 in zesty includes libsane.so.1.25 libsane1 1.0.27 in artful includes libsane.so.1.27 This appears to be no

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread Jeremy Bicha
** Description changed: - I don't know if that can be prevented in the long run. But both brscan - (for my brother scanner) and iscan (for my epson scanners) have been - broken by the change from libsane to libsane1. For iscan I have - unpackaged the debian package, changed the dependency it

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread dino99
You still can try the zesty version: download the required package(s), then install via 'dpkg -i' over the installed one(s) https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sane-backends -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-17 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
We had a working set of software. Now we have a non-working set of software without a feasible workaround (maybe except for phone camera). May I kindly ask why don't "we" revert the "improvement" to the previous state and happily use our scanners for everyday work and fun? -- You received this

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-16 Thread PeterPall
On my system uninstalling libsane1 uninstalls colord - which uninstalls gnome - which means that this isn't an option. Vuescan (costly!) and manually extracting and placing the contents of the .deb packages with the scanner plug-ins seems to currently work. But - I still wonder if there is a

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-16 Thread guascoe
Hi all, none of the suggested workaround works for me: change of libsane and libsane-common to older or different version leads to uninstall of gnome-control-center,ubuntu-desktop, and several other packages, leaving the system in an unconsistent state. Bye -- You received this bug

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-10-15 Thread Neil Gunther
Another workaround is to install this ppa: https://launchpad.net/~rolfbensch/+archive/ubuntu/sane-git And launch Iscan with sudo iscan. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title:

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-27 Thread luca.mg
Hi all, as a workaround on ubuntu artful I got rolled back to libsane libsane-common from zesty, that is 1.0.25+git20150528-1ubuntu4, and xsane xsane-common 0999.3ubuntu2, locked to those releases; my Epson Perfection 4490 scanner (third party epkowa backend) would only run as root; added the

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-02 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
Linking libsane.so.1.0.27 as libsane.so or copying doesn't seem to solve the problem. Anyone checked if Debian works with that? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread Jeremy Bicha
@dino99, because I'm trying to coordinate that kind of thing with the Debian maintainer… See comment 4. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the change from libsane to

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: sane-backends (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread dino99
@Jeremy only a comment : why not renaming libsane1 to libsane ? and from the debian report above: " Renaming the package to libsane1 without adding a "provides" breaks that dependency and it seems like merely adding the "provides" does not get them into a working order again." -- You received

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Jörg, thanks for your feedback but could you respond to comment 4? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread PeterPall
Same question from me: We cannot possibly want to break a big percentage of all scanners and MFC devices out in the wild. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the change

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hi Mariusz, as already written in the post 2 it is irresponsible to use a package from the Experimental branch in a production system. CU Jörg -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
Looks like other distributions suffer from the same: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468986 ** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #1468986 https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1468986 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-09-01 Thread Mariusz Dykierek
I have been using (x)sane with my 17.02 without a problem. After upgrade to 17.10: - my Xerox WorkCentre 3525 doesn't get detected (editing /etc/sane.d/xerox_mfp.conf helps though). - the XSane GUI closes after preview or scan with the following message "Not a JPEG file: starts with 0x00 0x00"

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-08-19 Thread marco ghidinelli
Hello, force (dpkg install --force-all) the installation doesn't solve the problem, so I think that the "provides" will not solve anything. Let me know if i can help testing things. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-08-02 Thread PeterPall
I don't know all makers of scanners that aren't supported by a stock sane. Also if I wrote a mail to i...@epson.co.jp or i...@brother.com telling them that their driver doesn't work with the newest experimental package from debian, but that I don't know any details what has changed I don't expect

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-08-02 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Jörg, I pushed 1.0.27 from experimental to Ubuntu 17.10 because Ubuntu had been using an old git snapshot before which wasn't good at all. Jörg, does it make sense to add 'Provides: libsane' to libsane1? PeterPall, please report this issue to the providers of those third- party plugins. -- You

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-07-30 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: sane-backends (Debian) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-07-29 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: sane-backends (Debian) Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1707352 Title: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-07-29 Thread PeterPall
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #870078 https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=870078 ** Also affects: debian via https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=870078 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown ** Package changed: debian => sane-backends (Debian)

Re: [Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-07-29 Thread PeterPall
On 29.07.2017 11:32, Jörg Frings-Fürst wrote: > Hello Peter, > > I really don't understand why Ubuntu use packages from the Debian > experimental branch. > > The experimental version is very buggy and the requested transition from > libsane to libsane1 isn't > ready to start. > Debian

[Bug 1707352] Re: the change from libsane to libsane1 broke many (all?) 3rd party plug-ins for sane

2017-07-29 Thread Jörg Frings-Fürst
Hello Peter, I really don't understand why Ubuntu use packages from the Debian experimental branch. The experimental version is very buggy and the requested transition from libsane to libsane1 isn't ready to start. CU Jörg Frings-Fürst Maintainer of sane-backends at Debian -- You received

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