[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
[Expired for apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 Title: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher-ng/+bug/302693/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
apt-cacher-ng has been rock-solid for me for years now, thanks to Eduard's excellent work. Guillermo, are you still experiencing this in precise or later? ** Changed in: apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 Title: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher-ng/+bug/302693/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
There have been many changes in Ubuntu since that time you reported the bug and your problem may have been fixed with some of the updates. It would help us a lot if you could test it on a currently supported Ubuntu version (like precise and above). When you test it and it is still an issue, kindly upload the updated logs by running `apport-collect 302693` and any other logs that are relevant for this particular issue. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 Title: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apt-cacher-ng/+bug/302693/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I see this problem too, but it isn't cured by a restart. Package files are somehow getting corrupted by acng, and this on two separate installations. I have to go in and clear out the old files from the cache to fix it. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I've experienced this kind of problem (or similar) on Lucid with 0.4.3 (and maybe before): 1. sometimes apt-get update fails with connection refused 2. sometimes after downloading packages they appear to be missing completely (or are corrupted) (bug 523395 for the result of this - may not be acng related at all) I've got not much details (maybe logs?), since it's easily fixed by restarting apt-cacher-ng. ** Changed in: apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu) Status: New = Triaged ** Changed in: apt-cacher-ng (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
Relax, you seem to assume that I am offended but I don't really care. We (in Debian) have been living for a long time with this conflict between long-time-freeze ideology and the need for fixes which came only with incompatible changes. But after all, every user of an LTS distro should realize that the stability (of the code base) comes with some price, i.e. sometimes that means keeping known bugs frozen in the frozen code. If you don't like it, don't use LTS, and don't blame maintainers in any case. That said, I personally would consider updating acng in older distributions. I am not aware of any obstacles in the upgrade path, there were no radical configuration changes or similar bad things. Btw, I plan to release 0.4.1 in November which contains minor code improvements, simpler debconf dialog and debconf template translations. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I think Poppafuzze wasn't commenting on this bug. His rant and his incorrect claims certainly have no relation to what's been discussed here. In general, I think it's advisable to actually understand before ranting and risking to look stupid. The only thing I could make out from his incorrect deductions and claims was that he is somehow unhappy about Ubuntu and the way packages are handled. If that's the case and he prefers the way Debian does thing, then I think the solution to his problem should be obvious. People who come from a Debian background apparently frequently fail to understand that Ubuntu has no concept of dedicated Maintainers. Any analysis based on this assumption is flawed from the beginning. And there just is no way around the Ubuntu release process as outlined above. Just accept it, always run the latest release or switch distro, those are your only three options, I'd say. Enough off-topic. Guillermo, are you already running Karmic (maybe you can try out a live CD or live USB?) and is the problem still present there? -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
Could you Ubuntu folks please stop attacking upstream with a threat to pull a package? That is just assy behavior. Upstream pointed out a flaw in the selection/release/update workflow that is used to prevent a fix from becoming manifest. It was good advice from upstream, for free, based on their intimate familiarity with the code, and they don't deserve to be treated that way. They don't have to do anything for Ubuntu, especially for some guilt-tripping threat about ruining some perceived fame by being included in a distro. 1. Asking upstream to go into the past and bake out a special patch just for Ubuntu by some hint about finding a patch is just rude. This is an Ubuntu maintainer's job if a newer version is known to work. And BTW, that makes Ubuntu a test pilot for some wierdo patch that wasn't necessary in the first place. 2. Citing Ubuntu's tight release process for witholding a fix, and then noting that the package is in universe (which is not supported by Ubuntu) is contradictory. 3. I don't think is not an answer about admittability of a patch. The patch was rejected by the people who decide has actual backbone. 4. And since when does the size of the patch matter if a problem is fixed? Really, some projects will go through a refactor, and there is simply no way to get a small patch for situations like that. Ubuntu does not get to choose when they get this free windfall from upstream. 5. And upstream called Ubuntu out for grabbing some bizarro version and locking it into a stable release, when it's not. Ubuntu is famous for this. This thread is making Ubuntu maintainers sound like a bunch of sysadmins instead of software developers. And the description of the release cycles implies that using a non-LTS version implies greater stability for all those packages that are not in main. And BTW, I have the problem, too, over a year since 250974 was opened. I have the 0.1.9-1 version, because it's not in main, universe, multiverse, updates, or backports. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I'm experiencing the same problem. acng would still be running but it would not respond to any requests. I upgraded to the version in Rolf's PPA and will report if this doesn't solve the problem. Placing the following in /etc/apt/preferences seemed to keep anything besides acng from being updated. Package: apt-cacher-ng Pin: release o=LP-PPA-r0lf Pin-Priority: 600 Package: * Pin: release o=LP-PPA-r0lf Pin-Priority: 0 -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
Just as a general warning to the public: It is generally not advisable and will lead to all kinds of strange problem when installing debian binary packages directly into a Ubuntu system. The much preferred route is to take the debian sources and recompile them for the target release. This is trivial with a PPA. I defer interested parties to https://answers.launchpad.net/soyuz/+question/51583. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
actually, I removed the jaunty version after recompiling them. Please try the 0.2.2 release from https://launchpad.net/%7Er0lf/+archive/ which is what I have been using successfully for several months now. It is better to be minimal in the changes we make, we may eventually be able to come up with a patch for an SRU. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
Eduard, thank you for the quick response. 0.3.3 (or a later version) should go into jaunty, no doubt. For the stable releases hardy and intrepid, we only have two options and updating to 0.3.3 is not one of them. a) find a minimal patch to fix the problem b) ask everybody to install 3rd-party binaries for apt-cacher-ng (such as the ones I provide in my PPA) If at all possible, I'd like to avoid b). You've already pointed out the changelog possibly dealing with this exact problem. If we now can come up with a minimal patch for this fix and this fix only, we have a chance to get an SRU exception and continue to support users inside the ubuntu framework (SRU: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates) If you can help me find the code that needs to be changed, I'm willing to do the rest. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I don't think that cherry picking is a good idea here. That issue is not some missing bounds or null pointer check (or similar obvious bug), instead we have a nebulous problem here. For the fix between 0.2.1 and 0.2.2 (the Debian frozen version) I can provide a patch which might help and which is restricted to the changes in core (see attachment). But for 0.1.9, that's too different. Sorry guys, I cannot help you if you took a bloody EARLY version from Debian UNSTABLE and have put an LTS sticker on it. That's just your own design flaw in the release process and I have no motivation in helping to work around that. ** Attachment added: acng_core_0.2.1-0.2.2.diff http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19988402/acng_core_0.2.1-0.2.2.diff -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
This might be one of the ghost problems with file storage code, see 0.2.2 changelog: * Fix: incorrect creation of sparse files in few (unusual) conditions; also made data/header file opening sequences more safe and reliable and added/improved some limited recovery methods * better logging of important cache storage errors However I recommend to be less conservative and go for version 0.3.3. Yes, it has changed lots of code since 0.2.2 but most of that on the maitnenance part and not on the core. And that part had a lot of internal flaws that needed to be fixed/replaced. It also got functionality to clean up the mess caused by pre-0.2.2 versions on some systems. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
Thank you for the patch. I don't think there is any chance of getting a 144KB patch in. I think there is some misunderstanding about LTS and the ubuntu release process. acng is in universe where packages are merged automatically. The LTS sticker only applies to the distro as a whole and particularly to the packages in main, not to apt-cacher-ng in particular. If we cannot come up with a minimal patch, then essentially acng will become a dead, unusable package in intrepid and hardy. This is not unlike debian stable, where I have witnessed this happening a lot of times (and even when an easy fix was easily available). We may even consider a request to remove acng from the official hardy and intrepid repos. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I decided to install the latest 3.3 version, I got it from here: http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/a/apt-cacher-ng/ I'll put it to work and report if this version works as intended. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 302693] Re: apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid)
I believe you are seeing bug 250974. I used to have the exact same problems until I upgraded past a particular version. I'll recompile the Jaunty version for Hardy and Intrepid. Take a look at my PPA later during the day and see if that helps. -- apt-cacher-ng hangs and corrupts packages (intrepid) https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/302693 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
