[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: mpris
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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This bug was fixed in the package sni-qt -
0.2.7+16.04.20170217.1-0ubuntu1

---
sni-qt (0.2.7+16.04.20170217.1-0ubuntu1) xenial; urgency=medium

  * statusnotifieritem: reset app usertime on activation to ensure
compiz will raise it (LP: #627195)
  * IconCache: get the proper theme path based on the fact we're using a
themed icon or not (LP: #1600136)
  * fsutils: always use $XDG_RUNTIME_DIR if it's set for saving icons

 -- Marco Trevisan (Treviño)   Fri, 17 Feb 2017 01:14:24
+

** Changed in: sni-qt (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Chris Halse Rogers]

This appears to have been fixed in the sni-qt
0.2.7+17.04.20161124.2-0ubuntu1 upload to Zesty. Quite why the LP:# link
in that upload didn't close this bug is unclear.

** Changed in: sni-qt (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Fix Released

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Tags removed: verification-needed
** Tags added: verification-done

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Mathew Hodson]

Accepted sni-qt into xenial-proposed. The package will build now and be
available at https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sni-
qt/0.2.7+16.04.20170217.1-0ubuntu1 in a few hours, and then in the
-proposed repository.

Please help us by testing this new package. See
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/EnableProposed for documentation on how
to enable and use -proposed.Your feedback will aid us getting this
update out to other Ubuntu users.

If this package fixes the bug for you, please add a comment to this bug,
mentioning the version of the package you tested, and change the tag
from verification-needed to verification-done. If it does not fix the
bug for you, please add a comment stating that, and change the tag to
verification-failed. In either case, details of your testing will help
us make a better decision.

Further information regarding the verification process can be found at
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/PerformingSRUVerification . Thank you in
advance!

** Changed in: sni-qt (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: sni-qt (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Status: New => Fix Committed

** No longer affects: unity (Ubuntu Xenial)

** No longer affects: unity (Ubuntu)

** No longer affects: compiz (Ubuntu Xenial)

** No longer affects: compiz (Ubuntu)

** Project changed: compiz => ubuntu-translations

** No longer affects: ubuntu-translations

** Project changed: unity => ubuntu-translations

** No longer affects: ubuntu-translations

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

** Description changed:

  Ubuntu 11.10 beta
  compiz 1:0.9.5.94+bzr2803-0ubuntu5
  unity 4.16.0-0ubuntu1
  
  1. open banshee, start a song in it and minimize
  2. open another application lets say gnome-terminal
  3. click on the sound menu and select banshee
  
  What happens
  banshee icon in the launcher wiggles and banshee main window is not shown
  
  What should happen
  banshee main window should come to focus
  
  This is a long standing bug which Ted Gould thinks should be fixed at
  window manager's level.
  
  Some other observations=
  The problem wont happen
  1. if every other app is minimized or
  2. Banshee is the only opened app or
  3. after opening gnome-terminal, banshee window is closed so that it hides to 
the SoundMenu and opened again
  
  =Comment from Ted Gould=
   tedg, Hi! any thoughts on the long standing bug 627195 ? Its been 
there before unity so I guess we can conclude unity not to be responsible
  
   om26er, My thought is that window managers should $%#$ get
  fixed... though I haven't convinced smspillaz of it yet.
  
  =The good rule=
  3v1n0: Indicators should present the application windows by passing to them 
the timestamp of the menu item activation event.
  
  Unfortunately for indicator-sound, this is not trival as it sounds, since it 
needs a change to the MPRIS dbus specification.
  See comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/627195/comments/26 
for more informations.
  
  For what concerns libappindicator based indicators (such as the one used by 
tomboy), since it's not currently possible in libdbusmenu to pass the event 
during activation (so that clients will be able to get the proper timestamp 
using gtk_get_current_event_time), there are two "hackish" ways:
  1. Use the server time to present a window:
     https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830
  2. Get the event timestamp from the dbus-menu linked to the gtk-menus:
     https://archive.is/2tLX6
  3. Qt applications workaround: http://is.gd/WnW9eN
  
  Window managers will obey to it.
+ 
+ ===
+ 
+ SRU for sni-qt:
+ 
+ [Test case]
+ 
+ git clone https://github.com/3v1n0/indicators-examples-snaps
+ cd indicators-examples-snaps/qt4-systray
+ qmake-qt4
+ ./systray
+ 
+ Close the app, now try to restore it from in the indicator (after having 
played with some app writing text on it such as gnome-terminal or gedit).
+ The app should be in foreground now

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Also affects: sni-qt (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Timo Aaltonen]

** Also affects: tomboy (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: compiz (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: empathy (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: indicator-messages (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: libdbusmenu (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: unity (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Also affects: sni-qt (Ubuntu Xenial)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Branch linked: lp:~ci-train-bot/sni-qt/sni-qt-ubuntu-xenial-2488.1

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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/sni-qt/xenial-sru1

** Branch linked: lp:~ci-train-bot/sni-qt/sni-qt-ubuntu-zesty-2488

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Branch unlinked: lp:~3v1n0/appmenu-qt5/xenial-sru2

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/appmenu-qt5/x11-usertime-on-activate

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

** Description changed:

  Ubuntu 11.10 beta
  compiz 1:0.9.5.94+bzr2803-0ubuntu5
  unity 4.16.0-0ubuntu1
  
  1. open banshee, start a song in it and minimize
  2. open another application lets say gnome-terminal
  3. click on the sound menu and select banshee
  
  What happens
  banshee icon in the launcher wiggles and banshee main window is not shown
  
  What should happen
  banshee main window should come to focus
  
  This is a long standing bug which Ted Gould thinks should be fixed at
  window manager's level.
  
  Some other observations=
  The problem wont happen
  1. if every other app is minimized or
  2. Banshee is the only opened app or
  3. after opening gnome-terminal, banshee window is closed so that it hides to 
the SoundMenu and opened again
  
  =Comment from Ted Gould=
   tedg, Hi! any thoughts on the long standing bug 627195 ? Its been 
there before unity so I guess we can conclude unity not to be responsible
  
   om26er, My thought is that window managers should $%#$ get
  fixed... though I haven't convinced smspillaz of it yet.
  
  =The good rule=
  3v1n0: Indicators should present the application windows by passing to them 
the timestamp of the menu item activation event.
  
  Unfortunately for indicator-sound, this is not trival as it sounds, since it 
needs a change to the MPRIS dbus specification.
  See comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/627195/comments/26 
for more informations.
  
  For what concerns libappindicator based indicators (such as the one used by 
tomboy), since it's not currently possible in libdbusmenu to pass the event 
during activation (so that clients will be able to get the proper timestamp 
using gtk_get_current_event_time), there are two "hackish" ways:
  1. Use the server time to present a window:
     https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830
  2. Get the event timestamp from the dbus-menu linked to the gtk-menus:
-    http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701235/
+    https://archive.is/2tLX6
  3. Qt applications workaround: http://is.gd/WnW9eN
  
  Window managers will obey to it.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Matthew Paul Thomas]

JaSauders, when a window opens or asks for focus, the window manager has
to decide whether focusing it is a good idea.

If you choose an item in an indicator menu, wanting to see a particular
window, obviously it should be focused, right? Well, no. For example,
when I choose the date item in the clock menu, Evolution takes 31
seconds to launch and open its window. If I get bored and continue
typing this comment in Firefox in the meantime, I don't want the
Evolution window to be focused when it eventually opens, because that
would mean some of my typing would go into the wrong window.

So, a window should be focused if you don't do anything -- or you aren't
*about to* do anything -- between the time you ask for it and the time
it opens. Simple enough, right? Well, no. Because the window manager
usually doesn't know (A) exactly what action of yours -- if any --
caused the window to open in the first place, or (B) whether you are
about to do something. (It can't see your finger getting ready to press
a key, for example.) The fixes for this bug address (A), by including
the timestamp of your menu selection with the request to launch a
particular app. But sometimes that isn't possible, often it isn't
supplied even when it is possible, and either way, that still doesn't
address (B).

So the focus-prevention-level setting is a dial for how eager the window
manager should be in granting focus requests. The higher it is, the more
often you'll get focus sticking -- a window failing to take focus when
you expect it to. But the lower it is, the more often you'll get focus
stealing -- one window taking focus while you are trying to use another.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[JaSauders]

Running 14.04.2 here with some of the same issues. I was seeing it with
ownCloud client, network manager, and a weather applet known as my-
weather-indicator. The issue came up at random, but it was easy to
replicate within a matter of 15-20 seconds while continuously navigating
around open windows followed by opening applications with system tray
icons.

I brought up conversation with some other users who gave me a suggestion
that has, so far, worked. Figured I'd post it here in case it can
benefit anybody else until the bug can be properly fixed. I ran this in
terminal, followed by a log out/log in.

dconf write  /org/compiz/profiles/unity/plugins/core/focus-prevention-
level 0

This is a similar idea that Rael posted in response 43 above. I seem to
recall Ubuntu switching to dconf over gconf at some point. I tested it
in my 14.04.2 virtual machine (brand new, but fully updated install)
however the gconf key didn't appear to fix the issue, as I was still
able to replicate it. In the same VM, that dconf write command above
seemed to fix the issue, as I have been unable to replicate it in my VM,
nor my main laptop.

The default focus-prevention-level is 1, which is considered low, but
appears to be the cause of this random behavior. Setting it to 0 seems
to make it consistent. I haven't ran with this change for
days/weeks/months, but in my tinkering so far today, the issue hasn't
resurfaced a single time.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[JaSauders]

I couldn't see an obvious way to edit my above post, so apologies for
sending out a second comment, but I do have to ask... why would the
default parameter for focus-prevention-level not be 0 anyways? It
doesn't seem, do I dare say, all that logical to have it set to 1 since
it only ends up providing inconsistent behavior with the way things from
system tray open. It being set to 0 provides that consistency. It would
surely remove the look on your launcher, see? it's there after all
comments I have to make quite often so users know that the application
they tried to open from system tray isn't broken, it indeed launched,
it's just... minimized and in your left launcher.

Thanks for all of your work!

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: libdbusmenu (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Adolfo Jayme]

** No longer affects: indicator-messages (Ubuntu Raring)

** No longer affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu Raring)

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Rael]

Ok, I realized that for some reason, any applications were gaining
focus.

I fixed following this answer into askubuntu:
http://askubuntu.com/questions/128738/when-i-launch-an-app-the-focus-
doesnt-move-to-the-opened-app

Run in a terminal:

gconftool-2  --type=Integer --set
/apps/compiz-1/general/screen0/options/focus_prevention_level 0

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Rael]

I'm on 14.04, and this still happens, for Rhythmbox, Empathy, etc.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-messages/13.04
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-sound/13.04
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

** Changed in: ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Released

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

** Description changed:

  Ubuntu 11.10 beta
  compiz 1:0.9.5.94+bzr2803-0ubuntu5
  unity 4.16.0-0ubuntu1
  
  1. open banshee, start a song in it and minimize
  2. open another application lets say gnome-terminal
  3. click on the sound menu and select banshee
  
  What happens
  banshee icon in the launcher wiggles and banshee main window is not shown
  
  What should happen
  banshee main window should come to focus
  
  This is a long standing bug which Ted Gould thinks should be fixed at
  window manager's level.
  
  Some other observations=
  The problem wont happen
  1. if every other app is minimized or
  2. Banshee is the only opened app or
  3. after opening gnome-terminal, banshee window is closed so that it hides to 
the SoundMenu and opened again
  
  =Comment from Ted Gould=
  om26er tedg, Hi! any thoughts on the long standing bug 627195 ? Its been 
there before unity so I guess we can conclude unity not to be responsible
  
  tedg om26er, My thought is that window managers should $%#$ get
  fixed... though I haven't convinced smspillaz of it yet.
  
  =The good rule=
  3v1n0: Indicators should present the application windows by passing to them 
the timestamp of the menu item activation event.
  
  Unfortunately for indicator-sound, this is not trival as it sounds, since it 
needs a change to the MPRIS dbus specification.
  See comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/627195/comments/26 
for more informations.
  
  For what concerns libappindicator based indicators (such as the one used by 
tomboy), since it's not currently possible in libdbusmenu to pass the event 
during activation (so that clients will be able to get the proper timestamp 
using gtk_get_current_event_time), there are two hackish ways:
  1. Use the server time to present a window:
-https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830
+    https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830
  2. Get the event timestamp from the dbus-menu linked to the gtk-menus:
-http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701235/
+    http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701235/
+ 3. Qt applications workaround: http://is.gd/WnW9eN
  
  Window managers will obey to it.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Tags added: u1-notrack

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/ubuntuone-client/sync-menu-use-gappinfo-
launch-4.2

** Changed in: ubuntuone-client
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Also affects: libdbusmenu
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: libdbusmenu
   Importance: Undecided = Medium

** Changed in: libdbusmenu
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Description changed:

  Ubuntu 11.10 beta
  compiz 1:0.9.5.94+bzr2803-0ubuntu5
  unity 4.16.0-0ubuntu1
  
  1. open banshee, start a song in it and minimize
  2. open another application lets say gnome-terminal
  3. click on the sound menu and select banshee
  
  What happens
  banshee icon in the launcher wiggles and banshee main window is not shown
  
  What should happen
  banshee main window should come to focus
  
  This is a long standing bug which Ted Gould thinks should be fixed at
  window manager's level.
  
  Some other observations=
  The problem wont happen
  1. if every other app is minimized or
  2. Banshee is the only opened app or
  3. after opening gnome-terminal, banshee window is closed so that it hides to 
the SoundMenu and opened again
  
  =Comment from Ted Gould=
  om26er tedg, Hi! any thoughts on the long standing bug 627195 ? Its been 
there before unity so I guess we can conclude unity not to be responsible
  
  tedg om26er, My thought is that window managers should $%#$ get
  fixed... though I haven't convinced smspillaz of it yet.
  
  =The good rule=
- Indicators should present the application windows by passing to them the 
timestamp of the menu item activation event.
+ 3v1n0: Indicators should present the application windows by passing to them 
the timestamp of the menu item activation event.
+ 
  Unfortunately for indicator-sound, this is not trival as it sounds, since it 
needs a change to the MPRIS dbus specification.
  See comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/627195/comments/26 
for more informations.
  
+ For what concerns libappindicator based indicators (such as the one used by 
tomboy), since it's not currently possible in libdbusmenu to pass the event 
during activation (so that clients will be able to get the proper timestamp 
using gtk_get_current_event_time), there are two hackish ways:
+ 1. Use the server time to present a window:
+https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830
+ 2. Get the event timestamp from the dbus-menu linked to the gtk-menus:
+http://paste.ubuntu.com/5701235/
+ 
  Window managers will obey to it.

** Also affects: tomboy (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: tomboy (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = Confirmed

** Changed in: ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ubuntuone-client (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/indicator-sound

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: indicator-messages
Milestone: None = 13.10.1

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Also affects: ubuntuone-client
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: ubuntuone-client
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: ubuntuone-client
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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This bug was fixed in the package indicator-messages -
12.10.6daily13.04.09-0ubuntu1

---
indicator-messages (12.10.6daily13.04.09-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low

  * Automatic snapshot from revision 340

indicator-messages (12.10.6daily13.04.08-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low

  [ Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ]
  * Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have
the focus (LP: #627195)

  [ Ubuntu daily release ]
  * Automatic snapshot from revision 339
 -- Ubuntu daily release ps-jenk...@lists.canonical.com   Tue, 09 Apr 2013 
02:02:02 +

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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This bug was fixed in the package indicator-sound -
12.10.2daily13.04.09-0ubuntu1

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  * Automatic snapshot from revision 348

indicator-sound (12.10.2daily13.04.08-0ubuntu1) raring; urgency=low

  [ Marco Trevisan (Treviño) ]
  * Indicator-sound should send the event timestamp when launching a
player (LP: #1163434)
  * Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have
the focus (LP: #627195)

  [ Ubuntu daily release ]
  * Automatic snapshot from revision 347
 -- Ubuntu daily release ps-jenk...@lists.canonical.com   Tue, 09 Apr 2013 
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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Fix committed into lp:indicator-sound/13.04 at revision 346, scheduled
for release in indicator-sound, milestone 13.04.0

** Changed in: indicator-sound
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** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: Fix Committed = Triaged

** Changed in: indicator-sound/13.04
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-sound
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: indicator-messages
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/raring-proposed/empathy

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This bug was fixed in the package empathy - 3.6.4-0ubuntu3

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  * debian/patches/47_git_activate_with_platform_data.patch:
- Use g_application_activate to pass platform-data to the GtkApplication
  when running it. (LP: #627195)
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** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
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** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Status: Fix Committed = Triaged

** Changed in: indicator-messages/13.04
   Status: In Progress = Fix Committed

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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I see. So it is basically this bug that you filled:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=693815

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Also affects: empathy (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: empathy (Ubuntu)
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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/indicator-messages/launch-app-with-timestamp

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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/empathy/empathy-activate-with-platform-data

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Also affects: indicator-sound/13.04
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-sound/13.04
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: indicator-sound/13.04
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-sound/13.04
Milestone: None = 13.04.0

** Changed in: indicator-sound/13.04
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: indicator-sound
Milestone: 13.04.0 = None

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: In Progress = Triaged

** Changed in: indicator-sound
 Assignee: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) = (unassigned)

** Changed in: indicator-messages
   Status: In Progress = Triaged

** Changed in: indicator-messages
 Assignee: Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0) = (unassigned)

** Also affects: indicator-messages/13.04
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-messages/13.04
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: indicator-messages/13.04
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-messages/13.04
Milestone: None = 13.04.0

** Changed in: indicator-messages/13.04
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** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
   Status: New = In Progress

** Changed in: indicator-messages (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

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** Description changed:

  Ubuntu 11.10 beta
  compiz 1:0.9.5.94+bzr2803-0ubuntu5
  unity 4.16.0-0ubuntu1
  
  1. open banshee, start a song in it and minimize
  2. open another application lets say gnome-terminal
  3. click on the sound menu and select banshee
  
  What happens
  banshee icon in the launcher wiggles and banshee main window is not shown
  
  What should happen
  banshee main window should come to focus
  
  This is a long standing bug which Ted Gould thinks should be fixed at
  window manager's level.
  
  Some other observations=
  The problem wont happen
  1. if every other app is minimized or
  2. Banshee is the only opened app or
  3. after opening gnome-terminal, banshee window is closed so that it hides to 
the SoundMenu and opened again
  
  =Comment from Ted Gould=
  om26er tedg, Hi! any thoughts on the long standing bug 627195 ? Its been 
there before unity so I guess we can conclude unity not to be responsible
  
  tedg om26er, My thought is that window managers should $%#$ get
  fixed... though I haven't convinced smspillaz of it yet.
  
  =The good rule=
- Indicator-session should present the players windows by passing to them the 
timestamp of the menu item activation event.
- Unfortunately this is not trival as it sounds, since it needs a change to the 
MPRIS dbus specification.
+ Indicators should present the application windows by passing to them the 
timestamp of the menu item activation event.
+ Unfortunately for indicator-sound, this is not trival as it sounds, since it 
needs a change to the MPRIS dbus specification.
  See comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/627195/comments/26 
for more informations.
  
  Window managers will obey to it.

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Fix committed into lp:indicator-messages/13.04 at revision None,
scheduled for release in indicator-messages, milestone 13.04.0

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[Treviño]

TomasHnyk: well, not sure... More than gnome-open gnome-terminal would be 
needed.
Not sure how much trivial it can be, though.

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** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/indicator-sound/bamf-player-activation

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Also affects: indicator-messages
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-messages
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: indicator-messages
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[TomasHnyk]

Marco: so both gnme-terminal and gnome-open should be patched? Should
bugs against them be opened?

On a related note, is this bug
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/compiz/+bug/782758 related
(only in reverse, because there, the problem is reversed - application
gets focus even when it should not).

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

** Changed in: indicator-sound
 Assignee: (unassigned) = Marco Trevisan (Treviño) (3v1n0)

** Changed in: indicator-sound
Milestone: None = 13.04.0

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: Triaged = In Progress

** Branch linked: lp:~3v1n0/indicator-sound/gtk-application-player-
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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On 2013-03-29T23:12:57+00:00 Marco Trevisan (Treviño) wrote:

The MPRIS Raise method of the MediaPlayer2 interface does not require a
timestamp parameter and this leads to focus issues in recent linux
window managers (such as compiz, mutter or xfce) that need the event
timestamp that triggered the call in order to correctly focus and raise
a window. Otherwise the focus stealing prevention of the window managers
would avoid a media player to be fully raised.

See for example this Ubuntu bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-
design/+bug/627195

So, we should deprecate this method and provide another - say -
RaiseWithTimestamp method that players should use to correctly raise
their windows.

Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-
design/+bug/627195/comments/26


** Changed in: mpris
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** Changed in: mpris
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

** Also affects: indicator-sound
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: indicator-sound
   Status: New = Triaged

** Changed in: compiz
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** Changed in: unity
   Status: Triaged = Won't Fix

** Changed in: unity
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

Unity is not the problem here.
Indicator-session should actually pass the activation timestamp to the player 
when raising it.

However, the problem is that IndicatorSound is just calling the Raise()
method of the MPRIS dbus interface that most of the players are
implementing. See: http://specifications.freedesktop.org/mpris-
spec/latest/Media_Player.html#Method:Raise

As you see this method is not taking any parameter, while it should
actually take the timestamp of the click event (the one we get into
indicator-sound's MetadataMenuitem::handle_event), in order to work with
the Focus Stealing Prevention mechanism that the windows managers are
using nowadays (both compiz and mutter in fact).

I've opened a bug for the MPRIS specification at 
https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62917 and I encourage you to 
complete it.
However this process can be long and until then the only way we have is to 
patch our players.

Basically what we need to do is *temporary* using the workaround shown in the 
bug linked below to bypass the focus stealing prevention when the Raise method 
is called on them:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830

** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #62917
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62917

** Also affects: mpris via
   https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62917
   Importance: Unknown
   Status: Unknown

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #688830
   https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=688830

** Description changed:

  Ubuntu 11.10 beta
  compiz 1:0.9.5.94+bzr2803-0ubuntu5
  unity 4.16.0-0ubuntu1
  
  1. open banshee, start a song in it and minimize
  2. open another application lets say gnome-terminal
  3. click on the sound menu and select banshee
  
  What happens
  banshee icon in the launcher wiggles and banshee main window is not shown
  
  What should happen
  banshee main window should come to focus
  
  This is a long standing bug which Ted Gould thinks should be fixed at
  window manager's level.
  
  Some other observations=
  The problem wont happen
  1. if every other app is minimized or
  2. Banshee is the only opened app or
  3. after opening gnome-terminal, banshee window is closed so that it hides to 
the SoundMenu and opened again
  
  =Comment from Ted Gould=
  om26er tedg, Hi! any thoughts on the long standing bug 627195 ? Its been 
there before unity so I guess we can conclude unity not to be responsible
  
  tedg om26er, My thought is that window managers should $%#$ get
  fixed... though I haven't convinced smspillaz of it yet.
+ 
+ =The good rule=
+ Indicator-session should present the players windows by passing to them the 
timestamp of the menu item activation event.
+ Unfortunately this is not trival as it sounds, since it needs a change to the 
MPRIS dbus specification.
+ See comment https://bugs.launchpad.net/ayatana-design/+bug/627195/comments/26 
for more informations.
+ 
+ Window managers will obey to it.

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** Changed in: compiz (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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Marco Trevisan: how does gnome-open fit into this (see my comment #13)

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Treviño]

TomasHnyk: also gnome-open should pass the timestamp to the application
it wants to launch, but it does not (it uses
g_app_info_launch_default_for_uri without any GAppLaunchContext that
keeps the event timeout), and this is not possible to do since in theory
the terminal should pass the enter-key event timestamp to such programs.
An environment variable could be used instead.

However starting from Raring, also nautilus would highlight this problem
when you open a location from terminal (the same doesn't happen when
launched from unity), for the very same reason. When you open it from
unity all works fine since we pass the event timestamp to the
application.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[TomasHnyk]

But changing that setting usually has other undesired effects regarding
focus in other circumstances (at least according to my experience).

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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If you're still having the bug, in CCSM, go into General Options.  In
the Focus  Raise Behavior tab, select Low (default) for Focus
Prevention Level.  If it still doesn't work, select off.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Pierce Gerhart]

This bug disappeared for a while for me, but it's back with a vengeance.
Twice today I've closed the wrong window and lost work. I used to have
the problem with Rhythmbox, but now It's Spotify. The symptoms are
exactly the same otherwise.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[glennric]

I have a problem that i think might be related to this, but I want to make 
sure.  If it isn't I will file a separate bug.  When I raise a minimized window 
via an indicator the app seems to have focus, but lacks window decorations.  
This bug has been around through several Ubuntu releases.  This only happens 
with compiz, and not metacity.  Is this the same bug or is this different?
For example if Thunderbird is open, but minimized, and I click on Thunderbird 
Mail from the Messaging Menu in the indicator, then Thunderbird pops up, but 
there are no window decorations on it.

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[glennric]

I should add that the bug in my previous comment does not just occur
when raising a minimized window via an indicator.  It occurs when a
minimized window is raised through about any means other than Alt-Tab or
clicking on the minimized app itself.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed = Triaged

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided = High

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** Tags added: exbacklog

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** Changed in: unity
 Assignee: Ted Gould (ted) = (unassigned)

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** Changed in: unity
Milestone: backlog = None

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: unity (Ubuntu)
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That's bug in Compiz so removed unity package from affects.

** No longer affects: compiz-core

** No longer affects: unity (Ubuntu)

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** Changed in: compiz
   Importance: Undecided = High

** Changed in: compiz
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[Sebastian Bator]

Fix committed does not mean that the fix is already distributed, that is
„fix released“ (see wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Status)

By the way, it is fixed in Ayatana, the upstream project, not Ubuntu
itself.

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[Alexandr]

Thank you, Sebastion, vor your explanation. I have already read about
statuses and did not understand what does it mean according to this bug
- fixed - but where and how? I tried to find this bug in changelogs and
failed. I would be glad if you can explain me how and where to trace bug
fixes in ayatana. Also I do not understand the difference between unity
and ayatana projects. I was looking for this bug in unity...

Now I know that it is fixed and this makes me very happy! But how to
know on which release this will be moved to ubuntu? Because the fix is
dated 2011-11 and this looks a bit strange that this was not included to
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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Owais Lone]

Alexandr, fix-commited in ayatana means the design team has taken a
decision about the matter, it has nothing to do with the code. This has
not been fixed in compiz yet AFAIK.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Alexandr]

The same on 12.04.

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Alexandr]

Sorry, but what the status fix commited means? Does it mean that this fix in 
proposed? If so - that it still does not work on 12.04, using gedit and devhelp 
plugin. The devhelp windows just blinking unusable in the appbar.
Maybe the status should be changed to confirmed?

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[TomasHnyk]

Another case that triggers this:
1. Install Opera (it does not happen wiht Firefox)
2. Set it to default browser (system settings  system info  default 
applications)
3. Run gnome-open http://www.ubuntu.com

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[Alexandr]

Hello, any forecasts if the fix will be released before final 12.04?

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[John Lea]

** Changed in: ayatana-design
   Importance: High = Critical

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[Bug 627195] Re: Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

[John Lea]

** Summary changed:

- Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus
+ Window management - Apps raised from indicators sometimes dont have the focus

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