[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
cagara, this bug was reported a while ago and there hasn't been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an issue? If so, could you please test for this with the latest development release of Ubuntu? ISO images are available from http://cdimage.ubuntu.com /daily-live/current/ . If it remains an issue, could you please run the following command in the development release from a Terminal (Applications-Accessories-Terminal), as it will automatically gather and attach updated debug information to this report: apport-collect -p xserver-xorg-input-synaptics REPLACE-WITH-BUG-NUMBER Please note, given that the information from the prior release is already available, doing this on a release prior to the development one would not be helpful. Thank you for your understanding. Helpful bug reporting tips: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReportingBugs ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: xserver-xorg-input-synaptics (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed = Incomplete ** Summary changed: - Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad + Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 Touchpad -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
I believe I have the issue described in comment #15 for the X230, on my Lenovo IdeaPad Z710. With a steady finger drag the cursor will move very slightly for a couple pixels before quickly shifting forward a couple pixels, such that at first I believed that the cursor was merely snapping to each line of text. The settings in comment i#15 are a fix because the problem does not occur with the AccelerationProfile set to 2, but it is imperfect because I prefer the other acceleration profile. Changing only the acceleration profile to 4 and the constant deceleration to 3 also works, depending on how you like your cursor. It is difficult to tell which other acceleration profiles have the problem, but it may also occur in 3. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
After more time with it, it appears the issue still appears with an acceleration profile of 4 although less noticeably. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
Ubuntu 13.10 with a simlpified version of #14 partially fixes Lenovo ThinkPad Edge E531. Section InputClass Identifier touchpad MatchProduct SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Driver synaptics # increment noise cancellation factor Option HorizHysteresis 50 Option VertHysteresis 50 EndSection The mouse behaves a bit strange, not good, but better than before. A hysteresis value above 50 makes it even worse (in another aspect) than it was before... Seems like this particular xorg-drug comes with a side- effect ;) The E531 has a clickpad (i.e. it has its physical button under the finger-sensitivt part of the touchpad). The only way to right-click is to use this pad -.- The lack of precision affects the right click context menus, without the fix above right-clicking always opened some alternative in the right-click menu, often the first. Now, it doesn't click anything most of the time, but sometimes it does hit the first one. Left-clicking is also affected, but there is the alternative of tapping for these clicks. Some walkarounds that really don't fix the problem: * Only use tapping. Only works for left-click. * Set AreaBottomEdge - cannot set for only right-click, has to take the whole bottom edge. Might work for you. * Change the theme, some have had success with adding a non-clickable border around all context menus, effectively moving the menu way off the mouse so you don't accidentally click it. I think what we really need is a ClickHysteresis, so that the mouse doesn't move when clicking the clickpad (both left and right click). Maybe we should open a new bug for this issue? I think we could have two very similar bugs in one thread here. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
solved with comment #15 adjusting the volume scale value -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
I am also having similar problem with Ubuntu 13.10 on ThinkPad S431, any workaround for S431? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
This problem exists in 13.04 too. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
Comment #15 works great for my X230t. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
I have the same problem with my ThinkPad E530. The config file from comment #14 fixed it! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
I've used a Thinkpad Edge E220S before, and I don't believe the problem mentioned in comment #14 is the same. It's the direct opposite, actually. The Edges have hyper-sensitive touchpads that move the cursor even when your finger is stationary. Increasing the V/H-Hysteresis stabilizes the pointer and makes the touchpad really nice to use. Conversely, the X230 has a touchpad that feels like it has really low sensitivity -- shift your finger a bit, and the pointer doesn't budge, but move your finger a bit more, and the pointer jumps a couple of pixels. The configuration in comment #5 appears to make the cursor less jumpy, though still visibly jerky, but causes the pointer to move overly slow. Additionally, something feels a bit off when moving diagonally, so I've commented out the Vert/Horiz-Resolution lines. With some further tweaking of the values, this is what I have come up with: Section InputClass Identifier touchpad MatchProduct SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad MatchTag lenovo_x230_all Driver synaptics # fix touchpad resolution # Option VertResolution 100 # Option HorizResolution 65 # disable synaptics driver pointer acceleration Option MinSpeed 1 Option MaxSpeed 1 # tweak the X-server pointer acceleration Option AccelerationProfile 2 Option AdaptiveDeceleration 1000 Option ConstantDeceleration 16 Option VelocityScale 30 Option AccelerationNumerator 30 Option AccelerationDenominator 10 Option AccelerationThreshold 10 EndSection You'll need to either add the udev rule from comment #13 or comment out the MatchTag line to get this to work. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
I have the same problem on Lenovo Thinkpad Edge 530 and Ubuntu 13.04 The settings from comment #5 did not satisfy me since the cursor speed is pretty much affected (reduced) and increasing the VelocityScale returns back the problem. After reading the Synaptics manpage I experimented a better configuration, that doesn't affect the speed: there is a nice feature called NoiseCancellation. I have created the following config file in /usr/share/X11/xorg.conf.d/50-thinkpad-touchpad.conf: Section InputClass Identifier touchpad MatchProduct SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad Driver synaptics # fix touchpad resolution Option VertResolution 100 Option HorizResolution 65 # increment noise cancellation factor Option HorizHysteresis 50 Option VertHysteresis 50 EndSection You can increase the Horiz-/VertHysteresis even more if you experience still some jumping. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
** Tags added: precise -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
** Summary changed: - Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 Touchpad + Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad ** Tags added: raring -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
The matching could probably be done based on the whole system's information: System Information Manufacturer: LENOVO Product Name: 34382BG Version: ThinkPad X230 Tablet Wake-up Type: Power Switch Family: ThinkPad X230 Tablet -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
/lib/udev/rules.d/66-xorg-synaptics-quirks.rules -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1042069 Title: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-input-synaptics/+bug/1042069/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1042069] Re: Jumpy Mouse Cursor using Thinkpad X230 (+X230t) Touchpad
Adding line:
ATTR{[dmi/id]product_version}==ThinkPad X230*,
ENV{ID_INPUT.tags}=lenovo_x230_all
to file /lib/udev/rules.d/66-xorg-synaptics-quirks.rules
and then using:
MatchTag lenovo_x230_all
should limit the quirk for just this hardware.
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