[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal+

2014-09-02 Thread Janos G. Komaromi
I removed fglrx, installed  mesa-utils, rebooted, and now display
(including cursor behaviour) is working fine. Note, I do not run games,
but movies in full screen display OK. - Janos

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal+

2014-08-24 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
djchandler, I understand completely your predicament, as I am in the
same situation (Toshiba Satellite L305D-S5934). What I did to WORKAROUND
the Radeon overheat issue was to utilize cpu governoring, as outlined in
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PowerManagement/ReducedPower .

Despite this, as is known, the root cause remains is that AMD has made a
conscious decision to not continue support of their closed source,
proprietary drivers (fglrx-*) for later kernel versions with the HD
2000-4000 graphics cards.

As a best possible, but infinitely unlikely case, the Ubuntu Community
could implement (and already initiated via PPAs) hack-arounds, where
tweaking open source packages that interact with fglrx enables it to
work on later kernel versions. The problem with this of course is that
we have no formal support from AMD, and the Ubuntu Community would be
solely responsible for formally maintaining this heroic effort. This is
not getting into the discussion of how would AMD perceive, let alone
sanction this action if formalized (kind of embarrassing that an open
source community is "picking up the slack" for something one would argue
AMD should be maintaining).

While I would absolutely love to see this type of support, I would never
expect this due to the above, and given if the hack-arounded packages
require a security package that breaks this functionality many people
would rely on, it could be quite some time before a fix would be in
place, if ever.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal+

2014-08-22 Thread madbiologist
G'day djchandler,

It sounds like you are in a bad situation.  I'm not sure if my comments
will help, but I thought I'd try anyway.

According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack if you
install the 12.04.0 or 12.04.1 point release and update you will remain
on the original Precise stack and not be updated to the Quantal or
Raring HWE stacks.

Old fglrx drivers wont work with new kernels, but old drivers and old
kernels should work together just fine, so I'm not sure what is going on
there - can you provide more details?

The above problem not withstanding, it's not really Ubuntu's fault that
support for your older hardware is diminishing, but rather it is AMD's
fault.

Perhaps instead we can get the open source Radeon driver working for
you.  The Linux 3.6 kernel finally enabled Radeon PCI Express 2.0
support by default and the Linux 3.8 kernel introduces a-synchronous DMA
support.  These changes have been demonstrated to make the open source
Radeon driver much faster.  HDMI audio support is also re-enabled by
default and can be turned on and off with xrandr.  The 3.11 kernel
finally introduced full Radeon power management (DPM) support which was
further refined and enabled for more hardware in the 3.13 kernel used in
Ubuntu 14.04 "Trusty Tahr".  This latter item should make your laptop
run cooler, although if it's 5+ years old dust buildup could be part of
the problem.  Either dismantle it (I presume it's out of warranty) and
clean out the dust or just run a vacuum cleaner nozzle along the
external air vents.  Your older hardware does not need updated Radeon
firmware files for DPM.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal+

2014-08-21 Thread djchandler
And the Open Source x.org radeon driver still overheats, especially on
laptops. This has been a problem for at least 4 years that I'm aware of,
and not getting perceptibly any better.

My 5+ year old Tosh laptop (RS780 graphics aka Radeon 3100 found in the
AMD 780V chipset) was fine with the fglrx driver and I was able to force
the 2.8x version until I upgraded from 12.04 to 14.04. You can no longer
downgrade back to an old copy of 12.04 and force the old version even
though it's in the repositories unless you still have your first .iso
download with the very oldest 3.2 kernel.

Any version of 12.04 I can see to download now with the oldest 3.2
kernel I can find won't install the 2.8x driver, apparently because
there's no kernel support for the older drivers (fails sanity check).
Somehow the problem has been compounded within the OS community after
AMD forked their support for so-called legacy GPUs and the Radeon 5xxx
GPUs and newer.

I started using Linux 12 or so years ago because it would run on older
hardware after MS or Apple discontinued OS support for a given
configuration. It looks like Canonical is getting more and more like
Apple and Microsoft. Now if your hardware is over 5 years old, you're
treated like some sort of Luddite.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal+

2014-05-24 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
** Summary changed:

- fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards
+ fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 
cards in Quantal+

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-12-31 Thread madbiologist
I neglected to say that to use the new DPM power management for the
AMD/ATI Radeon you will need to select it at boot by adding radeon.dpm=1
to your GRUB kernel boot options as described at
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Grub2/Troubleshooting#Editing_the_GRUB_2_Menu_During_Boot

If you have R700 or newer hardware (other than APUs) you will also need to 
install the latest AMD graphics microcode (ucode) files to /lib/firmware/radeon
These are available at http://people.freedesktop.org/~agd5f/radeon_ucode/
Get the version ending in "smc".

R700 basically means Radeon HD 4000 series and newer. However note that
according to Wikipedia and
http://xorg.freedesktop.org/wiki/RadeonFeature/#index5h2 the Mobility
Radeon HD 4225/4250 is a RV620 chip, so anyone with one of those
shouldn't need the updated firmware files.

Unlike the older dynpm method, the new DPM method works with multiple
monitors and there shouldn't be any flickering as the performance level
changes are handled by dedicated hardware rather than the driver.

The currently under-development 3.13 upstream kernel enables DPM by
default (without needing the radeon.dpm=1 boot parameter I mentioned
above) for Radeon HD 4000 through Radeon HD 7000 series graphics
processors but with some specific ASICs being excluded.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-12-31 Thread madbiologist
G'day Andrew and Alan.

According to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/LTSEnablementStack if you
install the 12.04.0 or 12.04.1 point release and update you will remain
on the original Precise stack and not be updated to the Quantal or
Raring HWE stacks.

12.04.3 should have the Raring HWE stack with kernel 3.8.x, which should
be more performant than the 3.5.x kernel in the Quantal

As for removing the HWE stacks, I have not tried to do so but there are
some guidelines at http://askubuntu.com/questions/265999/how-to-remove-
kernel-lts-enablement-stack

fglrx is notoriously bad on linux, so if you need UVD support or better
power management (DPM), a better option might be to install the 3.12.6
kernel PPA available at http://http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-
ppa/mainline/ - instructions on how to install and uninstall it are
available at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-12-30 Thread Alan F
So, I'm also affected by this, as I have a Mobility Radeon HD 3450/3470, and 
I'm a little confused about this.  I have currently Ubuntu Precise, 12.04.3 LTS
Can I uninstall the xserver-xorg-lts-quantal packages, and replace them with 
xserver-xorg-lts-precise packages in order to get fglrx working?

Thanks

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-05-26 Thread Andrew Chin
How do you remove the xserver-xorg-lts-quantal package?

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-04-22 Thread Pete Graner
** Changed in: ubuntu-release-notes
   Status: New => Invalid

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-04-21 Thread madbiologist
Sorry, I meant to say that the 2 changes I mentioned above have been
demonstrated to make the open source Radeon driver much faster.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-04-20 Thread madbiologist
> The other option for people on Quantal is to upgrade to Raring.
There's > still no fglrx, but the open source radeon driver has improved
a *lot*.


Yes, the Linux 3.6 kernel finally enabled Radeon PCI Express 2.0 support by 
default and the Linux 3.8 kernel introduces a-synchronous DMA support.

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Re: [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-04-20 Thread Rafael Lima Pereira
Em 31-03-2013 21:18, Dave Lentz escreveu:
> @Anton (and other 12.04 users): you'll have to use the xserver-xorg-lts-
> precise package, and remove the sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-
> quantal package.
That is the return:
~$ sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-precise-package
Lendo listas de pacotes... Pronto
Construindo árvore de dependências
Lendo informação de estado... Pronto
E: Impossível encontrar o pacote xserver-xorg-lts-precise-package

What I do now?

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-04-01 Thread Max Bowsher
The other option for people on Quantal is to upgrade to Raring. There's
still no fglrx, but the open source radeon driver has improved a *lot*.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-04-01 Thread Anton Kanishchev
@ #72   --- installing xserver-xorg-lts-precise package , and removing
xserver-xorg-lts-quantal, now  flgrx drivers install fine on 12.04.2.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-03-31 Thread Dave Lentz
@Anton (and other 12.04 users): you'll have to use the xserver-xorg-lts-
precise package, and remove the sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg-lts-
quantal package.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-03-31 Thread Anton Kanishchev
I have noticed an identical problem in 12.04.2(3.5 kernel with xorg
1.13),

Flgrx also fails to install drivers, the conflict being here is the
unsupported xorg 1.13.

I have noticed considerable speed improvements on open source radeon
drivers from 3.5 kernel to 3.8 kernel.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-03-31 Thread Kurt Kellner
I tried the workaroud, but was not successful. After installing it
xserver wouldn't start. I'm not that versed in console commands and
couldn't recover it. I finally re-installed my Linux Distro.

FYI:

Linux version: Linux Mint 14 - Cinnammon 64 bit
Hardware:

HP Pavilion dv5
AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4250

if anyone knows another workaround or better open source drivers please
do tell.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-03-31 Thread Dave Lentz
@Ryan Shipe: Unless AMD suddenly changes their policy, it is not going
to be fixed. If you absolutely need fglrx/Catalyst, either go back to
Ubuntu 12.04 or get a new card.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-03-31 Thread Ryan Shipe
Any new information on this bug? My HD4650 hates life ever since I
upgraded to 12.10 just like everyone else. I have been searching all
over the web and trying various things but haven't found a workaround
that works yet...thanks!

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-16 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
Alberto Milone, thank you for addressing this bug report. I agree that
due to licensing restrictions, the Ubuntu project is legally forced to
not fix AMD's driver for them. As well, from my terse interactions with
their customer service department, they are not concerned with their
customer's products being broken at a driver level, unless it's new
products. However, should we let this cause angst among the Ubuntu
Community to see if we may WORKAROUND their bug in a license permissive
way, on an an-hoc, special exception basis?

Granted this is wishful thinking, and more than easier said then done.
However, if someone comes up with something, it would be cool. if not,
thanks for checking in anyways, and trying to take care of us. :)

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-11 Thread Alberto Milone
Sorry but we cannot introduce a driver in Quantal if it doesn't support
Quantal's xserver ABI (1.13). There is nothing we can do if at AMD they
don't update their driver.

** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged => Won't Fix

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-06 Thread madbiologist
They should be backporting new versions of the fglrx legacy driver to
Precise as well, but that would be a different bug.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-05 Thread Ken Sharp
I'm on Precise. I installed fglrx-updates which, for some reason, has
had this broken version backported to Precise's fglrx-updates, but you
would expect that from fglrx-updates I guess.

fglrx itself has problems and I described my workaround to that at
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1114520

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-05 Thread madbiologist
OK Ken, from reading comment #3 in bug 1113331 I can see that you had
fglrx-updates installed on Precise and dist-upgraded to Quantal. So you
are in fact hitting this bug.  Sorry about that.  You may wish to try
the open-source drivers on Quantal - they are continuing to improve in
performance.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-03 Thread Ken Sharp
That's fine, but I'm not the one that keeps marking my bug as a duplicate of 
this one.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xorg/+bug/1113331

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-02 Thread madbiologist
Ken, this bug is specifically about fglrx on Quantal, with it's xserver
1.13.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-02 Thread Ken Sharp
Precise: Remove any and all fglrx*-updates and fglrx*-experimental
packages THEN install fglrx. Trying to do both together gives your
computer a fit.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-02-02 Thread Ken Sharp
The workaround is no use to those of us using the LTS Precise.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-01-27 Thread Dave Lentz
@madbiologist: the article incorrectly reports Xserver 1.13 support (the
13-1 legacy driver does not support it), so the news is irrelevant to
this bug. The main change in the 13-1 legacy driver is better support
for some Steam games.

The makson PPA seems to be more reliable these days (and he/they have
upgraded to 13-1 legacy for those interested in Steam games).

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Re: [Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-01-27 Thread marcel
So it is safe now to upgrade to 12.10? I did upgrade but ended up going
back to 12.04
El 27/01/2013 09:24, "madbiologist" <1058...@bugs.launchpad.net> escribió:

> This news may be relevant:
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> http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI4MDE
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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2013-01-27 Thread madbiologist
This news may be relevant:

http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTI4MDE

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-12-13 Thread SubOne
Clean installed 12.10.
Tried installing latest driver from ATI website, rebooted to no unity and can't 
even switch to virtual terminals (they just show black screen).
Tried the workaround with the same results.
Let me know if I can provide more information.

ATI Radeon HD 2600XT

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-12 Thread Sean Fitzpatrick
I have failure with both fglrx and fglrx-updates in 12.10, and the 12.11
beta driver fails to install in 12.04. (Although the latter may be
because I'm doing something wrong, as I noted in bug 1075035.)

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-07 Thread Christopher M. Penalver
madbiologist / Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. As this bug
report has a clear focus on the Radeon legacy 12.6 drivers for
Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 series cards, the Ubuntu X team
(fglrx-installer maintainers) are aware of this problem, AMD is aware of
this problem, and this report has been marked Triaged, again, it would
be demonstrably more helpful if Max Bowsher creates a new report as
requested of him in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-
installer/+bug/1058040/comments/47 , so his hardware, driver, and
solution may be tracked and addressed appropriately.

This is as per Ubuntu X.Org team (maintainers of fglrx-installer), Ubuntu Bug 
Control, and Ubuntu Bug Squad policy and preferences:
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/BestPractices#X.2BAC8-Reporting.Focus_on_One_Issue

and the Ubuntu Community article:
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Bug_reporting_etiquette

When opening up the new report, please feel free to subscribe me to it.

Please note, not filing a new report may delay your problem being
addressed as quickly as possible.

Thank you for your understanding.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-07 Thread madbiologist
Yes, I noticed that in the Catalyst 12.11 beta release notes too.  Even
they don't mention the FirePro V5700, so I think we can consider it
dropped - what do you say Christopher?  Regarding their mention of the
FireStream 9250, it would be odd to reintroduce support for a card that
was not supported in previous versions and given Max's descriptions of
the errors and inconsistencies in other parts of the AMD website I
strongly suspect the FireStream 9250 has been mentioned in error.  Dave
Lentz also thinks so.  And it's only a beta driver, not a final version,
which means that the release notes are also a beta version and not a
final version.  The conclusive way to determine this would be to test
that driver on the FireStream 9250 on an earlier version of Ubuntu which
does not have XServer 1.13.

@Sean, if you are still reading this, are you able to test the Catalyst
12.11 beta driver on Ubuntu 12.04?  I'll also ask you this in bug
1075035.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-07 Thread Max Bowsher
lspci has this to say about it:
02:00.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV730 
[FirePro V5700]

The balance of evidence regarding the FirePro V5700 seems to be support
was dropped in 8.982, and the AMD website is just getting it wrong when
it offers 8.982.x for the FirePro V5700 in some combinations of clicking
through the driver selector forms.

The balance of evidence regarding the FireStream cards seems confused.
The PDF release notes linked from individual driver versions at
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/previous/Pages/fire_linux.aspx
suggest support dropped, whilst
http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion1211BetaReleaseNotes.aspx
is contradictory to this, suggesting support continues.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-07 Thread madbiologist
So much for not making any more changes until we establish the facts :(

According to the release notes for the drivers listed at
http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/fire/previous/Pages/fire_linux.aspx
the last driver to support the FirePro V5700 and the FireStream 9250 is
8.911.3.4, released on 20th June 2012.  This driver was designed to
support Ubuntu 10.10.  It's "Known issues" section lists no bugs for the
FirePro V5700 or the FireStream 9250 which match this one.  The next
driver, 8.982.2, released on 7th August 2012, includes support for
Ubuntu 11.10 and 12.04, but no longer lists support for the FirePro
V5700 or the FireStream 9250.  The latest driver is 8.982.8.1, released
on 25th September 2012 - it also does not list support for the FirePro
V5700 or the FireStream 9250.

Are we in agreement now that AMD has dropped support for these cards?

Also, the chip information that I posted  was not from Wikipedia.  It
was from Sean's lspci.

@Max, can you please give us the output from this?

lspci -vvnn |grep "VGA compatible"

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-07 Thread Max Bowsher
My FirePro V5700 ceased to work with the fglrx driver with the exact
same update, in the exact same way, as described here, and has the same
underlying chip as Radeon HDs known to be affected.

The AMD website is hardly a shining example of consistency - there's an
8.982 Linux driver offered for the FirePro V5700 at
http://support.amd.com/us/Pages/AMDSupportHub.aspx if you select
"Workstation Graphics" and "FirePro Performance Pre-WHQL Driver".

The weight of evidence is certainly sufficient to convince me that it's
all one issue. If AMD ever come up with a driver that supports the
Radeon HD [234]xxx on X server 1.13 but does not support my FirePro,
I'll reconsider.

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[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal

2012-11-07 Thread Tomasz Makarewicz
Hi there,
Nice to see, that my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~makson96/+archive/fglrx is 
working for most of you. As it goes to the rest: try only to downgrade X-Server 
using my PPA, but install drivers according to this: 
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/993427/comments/14
 . If it works for you, than I might make some improvements during packaging to 
solve issue. If it still doesn't work, than the driver itself is screwed and 
there is nothing I can do about that.
Best regards,

P.S. Also generating xorg.conf might help:
sudo amdconfig --initial -f

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