[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. Regarding them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/1058040/comments/44 : >"Why are you so very determined to make this bug's description LESS useful for users?" What I am determined to do is make sure the the information provided in the Bug Description is accurate, and not misleading. Citing Wikipedia is not helpful on Launchpad, especially in light of how it contradicts AMD's own website, as discussed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/1058040/comments/39 . >"I have a FirePro V5700 [RV730] which is affected by this." You may not be in fact affected by this, but in an even more unfortunate one off case. As per http://support.amd.com/us/psearch/Pages/psearch.aspx?type=2.4.3%3b2.4.5%3b2.4.7&product=2.4.7.3.3.3&contentType=GPU+Download+Detail&ostype=Linux+x86&keywords=&items=20 , the last release specific for your card: AMD Proprietary Linux x86 Display Beta Driver 8.801 Beta 1/23/2011 However, the Bug Description link http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx discusses the following hardware: AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series AMD Radeon HD 3000 Series AMD Radeon HD 2000 Series AMD Radeon HD Series AGP AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4000 Series AMD Mobility Radeon HD 3000 Series AMD Mobility Radeon HD 2000 Series >"The nomenclature "HD2000-4000" doesn't identify this card at all." The Bug Title could be less ambiguous. However, the Bug Description, as noted above, does clear up what is covered. Despite this, I'll edit the Bug Title to clear this ambiguity up. >"The chip information is vastly more useful in identifying whether a given card is likely to be affected" The information quoted from Wikipedia is not useful and is misleading. >"even after I expanded the wording to document the interesting ambiguity of the FireStreams." No ambiguity exists on the FireStream models noted in http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion1211BetaReleaseNotes.aspx, and as discussed in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/1058040/comments/36 . As well, it would be demonstrably more helpful if you could please file a new report so we can track your hardware via a terminal: ubuntu-bug xorg For more on this, please see the Ubuntu Bug Control and Ubuntu Bug Squad article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/BestPractices#X.2BAC8-Reporting.Focus_on_One_Issue and Ubuntu Community article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Bug_reporting_etiquette When opening up the new report, please feel free to subscribe me to it. Please note, not filing a new report may delay your problem being addressed as quickly as possible. Thank you for your understanding. ** Summary changed: - fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal + fglrx-installer not working with AMD Radeon/Mobility Radeon HD 2000-4000 cards in Quantal ** Description changed: - Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for - Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards for the legacy 12.6 - driver as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages - /legacy-radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers - for users of these cards. + Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards for the legacy 12.6 driver as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy-radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers for users of the cards: + AMD Radeon HD 4000 Series + AMD Radeon HD 3000 Series + AMD Radeon HD 2000 Series + AMD Radeon HD Series AGP + AMD Mobility Radeon HD 4000 Series + AMD Mobility Radeon HD 3000 Series + AMD Mobility Radeon HD 2000 Series I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. One of the outstanding issues for addressing this bug is AMD currently does not plan to support XServer 1.13 (for Ubuntu the package is xserver-xorg-core) for the legacy 12.6 driver, which Quantal uses: - apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core + apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core xserver-xorg-core: - Installed: 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 - Candidate: 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 - Version table: - *** 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 0 - 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 Packages - 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status + Installed: 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 + Candidate: 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 + Version table: + *** 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 0 + 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 Packages + 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Gentlemen; please. This is a minor disagreement that is distracting from the main issue. We know that AMD have not yet released drivers for a set of older cards that work with Quantal (or more specifically, xserver 1.13). Let's focus on that. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Marking Triaged Wishlist, as the issues surrounding this bug report have been identified by the Ubuntu X team as per https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-x/2012-November/001234.html . Marking Wishlist as per https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Importance as this is a bug "that would only be fixed on a outside-contribution basis" in that AMD would need to update the legacy 12.6 driver to support XServer 1.13. Thank you for your understanding. ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Wishlist ** Changed in: fglrx-installer (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@ Christopher Penalver: Why are you so very determined to make this bug's description LESS useful for users? I have a FirePro V5700 [RV730] which is affected by this. The nomenclature "HD2000-4000" doesn't identify this card at all. The chip information is vastly more useful in identifying whether a given card is likely to be affected, yet you insist on deleting it even after I expanded the wording to document the interesting ambiguity of the FireStreams. I'll put my revised wording in my comment here, since you deleted it from the description: -- NOTE: It is mostly agreed that all AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected - if your board's chip is a member of these families, you should consider this bug report to most likely apply to you. This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain Radeon HD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged Radeon HD4x00 parts. If unsure, please consult http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units. However there seems to be some question surrounding some FireStream parts containing R7xx chips, which may still be supported by the main Catalyst driver releases according to AMD's website, though bug 1075035 contains as yet inconclusive evidence counter to this. -- As for your reluctance to refer to Wikipedia: if AMD actually provided an official source thsat would be great. Since they don't bother, Wikipedia is a good second best. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for - Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per - http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- - radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards for the legacy 12.6 + driver as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages + /legacy-radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers + for users of these cards. I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. + + One of the outstanding issues for addressing this bug is AMD currently does not plan to support XServer 1.13 (for Ubuntu the package is xserver-xorg-core) for the legacy 12.6 driver, which Quantal uses: + apt-cache policy xserver-xorg-core + xserver-xorg-core: + Installed: 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 + Candidate: 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 + Version table: + *** 2:1.13.0-0ubuntu6 0 + 500 http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/main i386 Packages + 100 /var/lib/dpkg/status Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Max Bowsher, thank you for your comments. Regarding them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040/comments/42 : >"Your comment-less removal of a useful part of the bug description after the >confrontations already occurred in this bug is frankly rude." Dave Lentz's additions to the Bug Description are unhelpful. Wikipedia is not a primary source of information about AMD's graphics cards. For more on this please see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/1058040/comments/39 . >"I shall add it back with additional notes." Please do not re-add this information to the Bug Description. Thank you for your understanding. ** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. - - NOTE: It is mostly agreed that all AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected - if your board's chip is a member of these families, you should consider this bug report to most likely apply to you. This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain Radeon HD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged Radeon HD4x00 parts. If unsure, please consult - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units. However there seems to be some question surrounding some FireStream parts containing R7xx chips, which may still be supported by the main Catalyst driver releases according to AMD's website, though bug 1075035 contains as yet inconclusive evidence counter to this. I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. NOTE: It is mostly agreed that all AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected - if your board's chip is a member of these families, you should consider this bug report to most likely apply to you. This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain Radeon HD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged Radeon HD4x00 parts. If unsure, please consult - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units. However there seems to be some question surrounding some FireStream parts containing R7xx chips, which may still be supported by the main Catalyst driver releases. + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units. However there seems to be some question surrounding some FireStream parts containing R7xx chips, which may still be supported by the main Catalyst driver releases according to AMD's website, though bug 1075035 contains as yet inconclusive evidence counter to this. I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + + NOTE: It is mostly agreed that all AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected - if your board's chip is a member of these families, you should consider this bug report to most likely apply to you. This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain Radeon HD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged Radeon HD4x00 parts. If unsure, please consult + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units. However there seems to be some question surrounding some FireStream parts containing R7xx chips, which may still be supported by the main Catalyst driver releases. I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Christopher Penalver: Your comment-less removal of a useful part of the bug description after the confrontations already occurred in this bug is frankly rude. I shall add it back with additional notes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. - - NOTE: All AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected. - This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain - RadeonHD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged RadeonHD4x00 parts. If unsure, please consult - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Ok guys, stop fighting. Before changing anything, lets establish the facts. According to Sean's lspci in bug 1075035 he has a: VGA compatible controller [0300]: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RV770 [FireStream 9250] [1002:9452] (prog-if 00 [VGA controller]) Subsystem: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI Device [1002:0502] Thats the same ASIC as used in the Radeon HD 4000 series cards - eg. see the description in bug 1071101. It is probably hooked up to a different BIOS but Sean's experience seems to show that it is indeed unsupported by the fglrx driver, despite AMD's claims in the Catalyst 12.11 Beta release notes. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Christopher Penalver: We've already gone over this. AMD's website often leaves out pertinent information and is not an infallible source of information. I've asked nicely before, but it appears I need to be more forceful: STOP UNDOING MY COMMENTS/EDITS. Thanks for your understanding... ** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + + NOTE: All AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected. + This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain + RadeonHD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged RadeonHD4x00 parts. If unsure, please consult + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Dave Lentz, thank you for your comments. Regarding them https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer/+bug/1058040/comments/38 : >"The Firestream 9250 is based on an RV770 (RadeonHD 4x00 series) chip, so it >is included in this bug report." At this point, it is not included, as your point is in direct contradiction to AMD's own website, as noted in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx- installer/+bug/1058040/comments/36 . >"I've tried to update the description to be more concise. If you're unsure, consult http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units"; Please stop quoting unofficial, non-AMD resources as fact. If it is not from AMD's website, or from an AMD representative, then the information you are providing is untrustworthy, and conjecture. Hence, please do not add this into the description. >"@Sean Fitzpatrick: I've marked your bug a duplicate of this one." Please do not mark it a duplicate. For more on this please see above. Thank you for your understanding. ** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. - - NOTE: All AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected. - This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain - RadeonHD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged RadeonHD4x00 parts. If - unsure, please consult - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Christopher Penalver: The Firestream 9250 is based on an RV770 (RadeonHD 4x00 series) chip, so it is included in this bug report. I've tried to update the description to be more concise. If you're unsure, consult http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units @Sean Fitzpatrick: I've marked your bug a duplicate of this one. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. + + NOTE: All AMD cards based on R(V)6x0 and R(V)7x0 chips are affected. + This includes some FirePro/FireGL/FireStream products as well as certain + RadeonHD5x00 mobility parts which are rebadged RadeonHD4x00 parts. If + unsure, please consult + http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comparison_of_AMD_graphics_processing_units I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 WARNING !!! The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Sorry for the mix-up. The problem sounded identical to mine, and I was limited in my abilities to search around since my screen resolution was shot to the point that firefox was too wide to fit on the screen. I've added a new bug and subscribed you as suggested. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Sean Fitzpatrick, as your AMD Firestream 9250 is not a Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 or HD 2000 series card as noted in the Bug Description and Bug Summary, your problem is not covered by this report. As well, as per http://support.amd.com/us/kbarticles/Pages/AMDCatalystSoftwareSuiteVersion1211BetaReleaseNotes.aspx AMD is still releasing new beta upstream versions of fglrx for your card, while this has not occurred for HD2000-4000 series cards. Hence, if you have a bug in Ubuntu, could you please file a new report by executing the following in a terminal: ubuntu-bug xorg For more on this, please see the Ubuntu X.Org Team (maintainers of fglrx-installer), Ubuntu Bug Control, and Ubuntu Bug Squad article: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/BestPractices#X.2BAC8-Reporting.Focus_on_One_Issue and Ubuntu Community article: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ReportingBugs#Bug_reporting_etiquette When opening up the new report, please feel free to subscribe me to it. Please note, not filing a new report may delay your problem being addressed as quickly as possible. Thank you for your understanding. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
I can add the AMD Firestream 9250 to the list of affected video cards - just upgraded and I've got the same problems as everyone else in this report. I'll try the open source drivers until I can get enough of a working desktop to investigate further. (I'm having trouble even viewing a website on firefox on a 24" monitor!) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Well, that is interesting on several fronts. The new driver does what I need, so I will stick with it. I am retired and not much of a computer user. People using development suites may have trouble, and this is, as far as I am concerned, an ongoing problem with the driver which, all things being equal, will sort itself out in the future. @madbiologist: Fair winds and following seas. I have been out of the development world for twenty-odd years now, and am completely out of touch with the inner workings. Getting a driver working with mesa must be quite a challenge. The last time I was involved in writing drivers was in the 1960's for mechanical things like paper tape readers, printers and document handlers. It was nice to be able to go and poke the hardware. When you get done with this, if ever, you will most certainly have an article for the journals (Does Software Practive and Experience still publish?). Keep up the good work, and try not to damage what we have so far. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
No to be a downer, but my experience with the open source is so poor that it is close to unusable for me. I work with eclipse and I keep on loosing the window, at first I tought eclipse was crashing but all processes were there, is just the windows that were gone from the desktop. Unity is really really slow, windows managment is also slow to move, close and resize. In other terms, it is worth going back 12.04 rather that staying with this open source driver. I didn't even try any 3d game as the performance is so bad I am not even willing to see it go worse. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@John Winterton - You are half right. CPU overhead is higher with the open-source radeon driver than with the closed-source Catalyst (fglrx) driver. However the ATI/AMD GPU is used as much more than just a presentation device - most of the 3D calculations and rendering (including parts of Ubuntu's Unity desktop) are done on the GPU. Most of the excess heat produced by the radeon driver compared to the fglrx driver is produced by the GPU. Although there is some basic power management in the radeon driver - see http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonBuildHowTo#radeon-KMS_power-management - not only does the dynpm method not work on some hardware, when it does both it and the profile method only reduce heat and increase battery life partially when compared to the fglrx driver. That said, there is some work going on to reduce the CPU overhead of the radeon driver. Some improvements were made in Mesa 7.11 (used in Ubuntu 11.10) for both the r300g driver for old hardware up to and including the Radeon X1000 series GPUs and the r600g driver for newer hardware from Radeon HD2000 series and later. There was at least one improvement to the r600g driver in Mesa 9.0 (used in Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal") - see http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=c76462b45f1e3a0aa2ee7971191e30e8a5f52015 - and already another in the development tree for the future Mesa 9.1 - see http://cgit.freedesktop.org/mesa/mesa/commit/?id=e73bf3b805de78299f1a652668ba4e6eab9bac94 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
My experience is unfortunately quite poor with my Mobility Radeon HD 3650 (RV635) The dash is slow, it takes a few seconds to come up and if I type anything in it takes a second for it to show what I've typed and even longer to find results. It was so slow that I went straight back to 12.04 where it is all instant, no matter which driver I use -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Dave Lents: Well, that might make it worth pursuing were I running a laptop. I do understand that the default driver probably runs up the main cpu(s) at high revs and uses the ATI/AMD module strictly as a presentation device, if that. My older Radeon 3000 GPU (AMD RS780 on- board chip set) never was very satisfactory, but this new driver is at least equivalent if not better. The main 3D game I run is SimCity 4 Deluxe, and it runs a core at 100% all by itself. I'll have to have a look at the system monitor when this is running to see if the second processor on my system is doing more than maintenance things. SC4 was written in about 2000 and is single threaded, no GPU options. It is really too bad that there cannot be enough air plenum in a laptop to cool the processors properly, but fashion dictates they be thinner and thinner. The penality for this is running hot with gaming. These machines are not not really for gaming, and anyone who expects desktop performance out of them is smoking something truly strange. Of course this makes it impossible to please the 'now' generation who really want games like this on their telephone. *sigh*. It is hard to believe that the Univac II I first used has become what we have now. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@John Winterton: my experience (RadeonHD 4550) matches yours, but most mobile users get shorter battery life and higher temps with the open source radeon driver. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
It would appear that the need for a proprietary Radeon driver is moot. My system performs well without fglrx. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Neil Burgin - I'm glad to hear that you are satisfied with the performance of the current open-source radeon driver. There have indeed been many recent performance improvements to the open-source radeon 3D graphics driver. This includes radeon KMS page-flipping which was introduced in the 2.6.38 kernel which was used in Ubuntu 11.04 "Natty Narwhal"; and the switch from the classic Mesa 3D driver to the Gallium3D Mesa driver which happened in Mesa 7.9 (used in Ubuntu 10.10) for Radeon X1000 series GPUs and earlier, and in Mesa 7.10.1 (used in Ubuntu 11.04) for Radeon HD 2000 series GPUs and later. There were further Radeon performance improvements in Mesa 8.0 (8.0.4 is currently available in Ubuntu 12.04 "Precise Pangolin") and in Mesa 9.0. Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" is using Mesa 9.0. Also, kernel 3.4 introduced 2D color tiling support for Radeon HD 5000 and HD 6000 series GPUs, which boosts performance when used in conjunction with Mesa 9.0. Ubuntu 12.10 "Quantal Quetzal" is using a kernel which is based on the upstream 3.5 kernel. If you ever need more performance from this driver and you have a Radeon HD 2000 or later, support for PCI Express 2.0 (PCI-E 2.0) was finally added to the open-source radeon driver in the 3.6 kernel. This has been shown to increase performance for some OpenGL workloads. A PPA of this kernel is available at http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/ and instructions on how to install and uninstall it are at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Kernel/MainlineBuilds -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@madbiologist: Honestly I had not tried using any 3D accelerated games with the default Open-Source Radeon driver because I assumed it would not work. But I just now tried extreme tux racer and it worked just fine. I guess the open-source 3D graphics driver architecture has advanced by leaps and bounds since the last time I tried to use it, at which point it did not work. (It actually wasn't THAT long ago that I tried to use it, but I'm still sure it's much older than what Ubuntu is currently using because it was on the stable version of Debian :p ) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@marcel Indeed. Is HP the only manufacturer providing dual ATI? I have a G62 as you can see in bug #1070531 . I could turn that one into a bug that affects dual ATI laptops from HP, what do you think about that? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@montblanc Exactly the same behaviour here with an Hp Dv6 with ATI RS880M [Mobility Radeon HD 4200 Series] I tried both with that ppa and building the packages off the 12.6 legacy driver zip from amd. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Neil Burgin - Given that you have not had success in downgrading the xserver using the makson PPA, I thought I would followup on your comment #6. When you say "I have to run CPU Mesa for 3D", are you saying that your system is falling back to Mesa's LLVMpipe software 3D renderer on your CPU and not using hardware accelerated 3D rendering on your GPU? Which ATI card do you have in your system (according to lspci -vvnn |grep VGA) ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Re comment #4 - according to http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTEzNDA ATI will not be adding support for newer xservers or kernels to their legacy Catalyst (fglrx) driver. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Description changed: Following the AMD decision to change to a new driver support model for Radeon™ HD 4000, HD 3000 and HD 2000 series cards as per http://support.amd.com/us/gpudownload/linux/legacy/Pages/legacy- radeon_linux.aspx , fglrx-installer installs non-working drivers. I suggest the addition of an fglrx-legacy package to install the AMD legacy drivers for users with older cards or patch the current code base for use with these cards. Output for fglrx 9.00 [1]: # lspci|grep VGA 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: Advanced Micro Devices [AMD] nee ATI RS780L [Radeon HD 3000] # modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-15-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device # dmesg|tail -n3 [ 6785.693869] [fglrx] Maximum main memory to use for locked dma buffers: 7132 MBytes. [ 6785.694089] [fglrx:firegl_init_device_list] *ERROR* No supported display adapters were found [ 6785.694091] [fglrx:firegl_init_module] *ERROR* firegl_init_devices failed # dpkg --list|grep fglrx ii fglrx 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Video driver for the AMD graphics accelerators ii fglrx-amdcccle 2:9.000-0ubuntu1 amd64 Catalyst Control Center for the AMD graphics accelerators [1] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/fglrx-installer- updates/+bug/1032672/comments/34 - WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get - update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx- - legacy + WARNING !!! + The following workaround has produced mixed results and left some users with temporarily broken systems. It is not recommended for production systems or novice users that are not comfortable with basic console/non-GUI recovery. USE AT OWN RISK. + WORKAROUND: sudo add-apt-repository ppa:makson96/fglrx && sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get -y upgrade && sudo apt-get -y install fglrx-legacy This workaround will downgrade X to 1.12 and install the AMD legacy fglrx 8.97 (Catalyst 12.6). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
fglrx will not load at all on my AMD/ATI RS780 chip set (on my mobo). Doesn't seem to make much difference, as my system runs just fine in DVI mode, and the one game I have that requires accelerated sound and video operates correctly. The default(?) driver does the job for me. Description:Ubuntu 12.10 Release:12.10 fglrx: Installed: (none) <-- Candidate: 2:9.000-0ubuntu3 Version table: 2:9.000-0ubuntu3 0 500 http://ca.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ quantal/restricted amd64 Packages I am glad to see this discussion. I was wondering if my chipset had had an infant mortality. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@Montblanc: I think that's what happened to me. I didn't check the debugging output so I wasn't aware of any segmentation fault but I know that I was booting by default into a black screen, and I had to but into one of the back-up kernels that grub keeps handy and run ppa-purge. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
I have the same problem with [Mobility Radeon HD 4650] on HP Pavilion dv7 2030er $ sudo modprobe fglrx FATAL: Error inserting fglrx (/lib/modules/3.5.0-17-generic/updates/dkms/fglrx.ko): No such device -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Installing fglrx-legacy from makson96's ppa didn't work for my RS800 (HD 4200). X segfaults and I only get a black screen, no matter which xorg.conf I use. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
Eh... That is, I would say it was the best solution, if it actually worked... It broke my system and I had to run ppa-purge on it. I might try it again in a week or 2, see if it can get the kinks worked out. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
@jfernyhough : I'm glad that there at least is a PPA to fix it. For me and everyone else with a legacy radeon card, the loss of fglrx is much, much, much worse than not having whatever little subtle improvements that there were from 1.12 to 1.13. Until AMD updates its driver, I would say that the makson PPA is in fact the most optimal solution we have. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1058040] Re: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal
** Summary changed: - fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards + fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1058040 Title: fglrx-installer not working with HD2000-4000 "legacy" cards in Quantal To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu-release-notes/+bug/1058040/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs