[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 Same here.. I am very irritated with this -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 I trust you guys will make the best decision. I've done my best to advocate the usefulness of this feature. The main thing I will tell you, is that after you've discovered this feature, you can't go back. My own philosophy on software advancement places priority on two (potentially mutually exclusive) priorities: 1) For the sake of intuitiveness, always provide a contextual menu for each element graphically displayed. Doing so, allows the user to answers the question: What are all the things I do with this thing?. Another way of saying this is: Place functionality near as possible to the graphical representation of the thing that the functionality is about. Doing this is most intuitive, and will eliminate mouse travel. 2) Always strive to eliminate the number of steps required to achieve a task, and do this in a manner that does not compromise the intuitiveness (the obviousness) of how to perform that task. In this use case, we have user browsing through their file system with Nautilus. They come across a folder containing a hierarchy of music files. The user decides he would like to recursively enqueue this folder's files into his favorite music player. Due to principle #1, the most intuitive way to do this (giving context and nearness) is to place an option in the context menu that will allow him to recursively enqueue this folder into the application of his choice. This method also fulfills principle #2, because it eliminates these 3 steps: (1) Launch an application. (2) Position the window of that application so that is not on top of the Nautilus window (3) Drag the folder from the Nautilus window into the other application's window. Even a new user, could easily discover the usefulness of this feature, due to intuitiveness of context menus, which always answer the question What can I do with this thing? And, any user who has previously discovered this, will prefer it in this exact use case scenario. Additional use cases this serves: - Open folder with k4dirstat, to see what within that folder is taking up the most space on your hard drive - Enqueue Folder into VLC to watch multiple music videos one after the other. Any application that can use a folder as a launching input benefits from this previously achieve (but now missing) feature. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 Glad that you found an alternative that you like, the bug tracker is made to resolve bugs and discuss solution, not for user discussions about alternative software, can you stop those comments (or move to an user forum for example) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 @Sebastien How do you think I found about nemo? It was on this forum: http://www.reddit.com/r/Ubuntu/comments/1vv3wy/ubuntu_should_replace_nautilus_with_thunar_as/ I'm surprised that you would criticised me for reporting my finding back to this report, giving that it is an excellent work-around for those waiting on Nautilus to fix this regression. In addition to the purposes you mention, the bug tracker has always been (also) a way to discover work-arounds DURING unfixed bugs. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 @Lonnie: changing software is not a workaround, you are trading a small annoyance for a whole new set of difference issues. You are also recommending to replace a supported software by one which is not. Sure that's an option, but that's a personal preference and not something useful there (you could as well recommend to use XFCE or KDE or whatever) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 Respectfully, please consider this: All levels of users come across these bug reports trying to solve their immediate problem. Many will indeed find my comment useful, and consider it a legitimate workaround, because their immediate problem can be solved with one command: sudo apt-get install nemo I'm a loyal and happy Unity Desktop user, but when a default package regresses, I consider it objective and relevant (as the submitter of this bug report) to indicate the solution I finally implemented. nautilus (ubuntu) can quickly redeem itself be fixing the regression. At that point, my workaround will be less relevant. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 that's not so much a regression than a GNOME upstream design decision. That feature is one that most users don't need, you can also get to the same result quite easily by other mean, another workaround for you: run the app you want to use and drag-and-drop the directory to it -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 That workaround, you mention, was anticipated and stated in my initial submission (at the top of this page). I guess I'm not using the term regression correctly. Is degradation more appropriate? What word means: a loss of previously achieved functionality, optimization, or convenience? Upstream design decisions, are no less subject to scrutiny than regressions. Both are legitimate reasons to submit a bug report. No matter what we call these things, the fact remains that a feature that was achieved is now missing from Nautilus. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 Right, let's stop arguing about it, regression was probably not the appropriate definition for a design change but you have a point there and I should have started arguing on wording details. Using nemo is a valid alternative for users that need that option indeed. Note that we are still pondering if open with is an option that benefits the majority of our users (in which case we might bring it back), or if we agree with upstream that most users don't need it and it's only making the software less easy to use for those and should be left out. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 A work-around, if you really need the open with (on a folder) feature, is to use Nemo (until Nautilus fixes this regression): sudo apt-get install nemo -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 ** Tags added: saucy trusty -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 I upgraded to the 14.04 alpha, and this regression-bug persists; you still cannot Open With on a folder in 14.04. I've been using Ubuntu exclusively since version 7.04. Around Ubuntu 12.10 I started noticing this regression. It is so convenient to use Open With on folders especially when they contain music or videos. I like being able to right-click on a folder and then open with VLC for example. Without this feature, I have open VLC, and then position its window in a manner that I can drag and drop the folder into VLC. I miss the days when I could just right-click the folder and then Open With VLC The same is true for music folders. 1) Right-Click the folder (containing music files) 2) Select Open With 3) Select your music application (Audacious in my case). Very handy! We need to bring this back for 14.04 LTS! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
This appears to be related to Bug #1026254. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1026254 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1026254 ** This bug has been marked a duplicate of bug 1026254 Open with on folders was removed, Ubuntu should consider patching back -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1178697] Re: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: nautilus (Ubuntu) Status: New = Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1178697 Title: Regression - Can't Open with on Folders To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/1178697/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
