[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
** Changed in: ntp (Debian) Status: New => Fix Released -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
** Changed in: ntp (Debian) Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: ubuntu Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
** Project changed: ntp => ubuntu ** Changed in: ubuntu Importance: Unknown => Undecided ** Changed in: ubuntu Remote watch: Debian Bug tracker #823533 => None ** No longer affects: ubuntu ** Also affects: ntp (Debian) via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823533 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
In reference to [1] the TL;DR summary is that: 1. ntpdate is deprecated 2. the patches got polished, tested and provided to Debian but not yet picked up 3. we are unwilling to add more delta to Debian for a deprecated binary #. so if they are merged in Debian we will pick it up in the next Release, but unlikely do an SRU for it. Great and more detailed summary including potential workarounds for old issues can be read at: [1]: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2016-August/039484.html ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Won't Fix -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => ChristianEhrhardt (paelzer) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
Testing has shown that an environment var there isn't working well as call -> ifup -> hook isn't transferring env. But checking for alternatives this got even better. ifup makes all options in e/n/i or ifup -o available (prepended and uppercased) to called scripts. That way one can not only disable per call, but also per device in e/n/i. So the behavior will be like: 1. default it is running on ifup (old default) 2. one can set a global disable in the config file 3. one disable per device in the devices e/n/i stanza via disable_ntpdate=1 4. one can disable it per call via -o option setting -o disable_ntpdate=1 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
** Changed in: ntp Status: Unknown => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
added the Debian bug I reported the patch ** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #823533 http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823533 ** Also affects: ntp via http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=823533 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
While these days the systemd based timesync* things are doing most of
the work there is still a lot of buzz around the automated ntpdate on
ifup. I'll try to to summarize the outcome of multiple discussions and
bugs around this and propose a solution.
- I've seen various reports of ntpdate syncing too much or time changes due to
that annoying people.
- but then there are different user scenarios so some want and others won't
"autoupdate" feature on ifup
- the ones that want it disabled are usually only "inconvenience issues" like
too much calls, but also cases like "know it will hang", so could I disable it
in advance
- the ones require the updates are mostly having more severe issues (like
breaking authentication due to time being off afterwards)
We should try to create a solution for both parties to be able to config the
system to their way.
So lets keep the default to sync (as it seems the more critical way), but
provide a way to disable it via the config files.
Doing it via an environment variable also allows to "overwrite" it in ifup
calls like
DISABLE_NTPDATE=1 ifup eth0
The config file has to be read in ntpdate-debian if the variable is not
set.
Then just a simple check for that variable in the script to exit if disabled:
[ "${DISABLE_NTPDATE:-0}" != "0" ] && exit 0
So the behavior would be like:
1. default it is running on ifup
2. one could set a different default in the config file
3. one can overwrite whatever was set via an environment variable
... creating a patch for that and providing to Debian for a latter sync.
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[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
Passing more bugs that I closed as dup, the general argument seems to be that these days in no way a server should: 1. not step time after boot (adressed in 75347) 2. not ntpupdate (by default) on every ifup especially with so much virtual interfaces I'll try to suggest Scotts patch in a default-disabled version to Debian and see what the discussion turns up. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
I found another bgu I marked as dup, this had another two dup. So I think it is more of a request than I thought. Raisng prio again. IMHO we should even consider disabling it by default. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Importance: Low => Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
I know it's a long time, but I'm cleaning up old NTP bugs atm. Your latter suggestion is actually only a small fix and we have all we need - so setting triaged. Probably not worth to work on it on its own - but it could be nicely done along a potential upload to bug 75347. Therefore subscribing the Team to take a deeper look at it. ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
Since no more installed by default - lowering prio thou ** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Importance: Medium => Low -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
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[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1206164 Title: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ntp/+bug/1206164/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
for my usecase, it would probably be nicest if I could just disable this via
environment variable.
perhaps:
DISABLE_NTPDATE=1 ifup eth0
and then just a simple check for that variable in the script:
[ ${DISABLE_NTPDATE:-0} != 0 ] exit 0
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[Bug 1206164] Re: /etc/network/if-up.d/ntpdate does not detach correctly
for my usecase, it would probably be nicest if I could just disable this via
environment variable.
perhaps:
DISABLE_NTPDATE=1 ifup eth0
and then just a simple check for that variable in the script:
[ ${DISABLE_NTPDATE:-0} != 0 ] exit 0
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