[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
I am using PL2305 to print to an old Fujitsu line printer and was missing the last few lines of the printout every time. The workaround suggested above worked for me, too :) I changed: lpadmin -p fujitsu -v usb://Unknown/Printer -E to lpadmin -p fujitsu -E -v parallel:/dev/usb/lp0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
** No longer affects: linux (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided = Low ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete = New ** Description changed: I have an old HP Deskjet 710C parallel printer. I really don't print a lot, so it ages well. I just replaced my former desktop with a new barebone without parallel port - no space to embed a PCI IEEE 1284 adapter. So I just bought a cable which is a parallel-to-usb adapter : it is a Sweex adapter, the kernel recognizes it as : Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port I configured cups to use this new adapter, with the same old pnm2ppa driver. When I try to print a test page from cups (or other printings) it goes well, until close to the end, when the printing suddenly stops, without the sheet being released : I have to power off the printer, which as a side effect triggers the sheet ejection before power off. I read various articles and forums on this topic before posting. Playing with usblp, kernel blacklists and /dev/usb/lp0 does not solve anything. I wanted to be sure that it was not the Prolific controller which was flawed. So I connected it to a windows 7 virtual machine into Virtualbox; Windows installed various drivers, and eventually various printings ran seamlessly - without my issue on GNU/Linux. So my conclusion is that the controller is ok. I also just tested mainline kernel http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v3.13-rc3-trusty /linux- image-3.13.0-031300rc3-generic_3.13.0-031300rc3.201312061335_amd64.deb . No improvement, my test page stops being printed at the same spot close to the end. So I can assume that there is a bug in the controller's driver. Best regards R. Grasso + + WORKAROUND: Setup Lprng locally from lpr - not configurable from KDE/Systemsettings - then from my main computer with CUPS 1.6.1, I configured a remote printer: + lpd://10.0.0.1/lp ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 13.10 Package: linux-image (not installed) ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.11.0-14.21-generic 3.11.7 Uname: Linux 3.11.0-14-generic x86_64 ApportVersion: 2.12.5-0ubuntu2.1 Architecture: amd64 AudioDevicesInUse: Error: command ['fuser', '-v', '/dev/snd/by-path', '/dev/snd/controlC0', '/dev/snd/hwC0D0', '/dev/snd/hwC0D3', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0c', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D0p', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D2c', '/dev/snd/pcmC0D3p', '/dev/snd/seq', '/dev/snd/timer'] failed with exit code 1: Date: Sun Dec 8 13:53:43 2013 HibernationDevice: RESUME=UUID=a16e3a2c-0f38-4e72-9c51-145a864b60a1 InstallationDate: Installed on 2013-11-06 (32 days ago) InstallationMedia: Kubuntu 13.10 Saucy Salamander - Release amd64 (20131016.1) MachineType: Shuttle Inc. DS47D MarkForUpload: True ProcFB: 0 inteldrmfb ProcKernelCmdLine: BOOT_IMAGE=/boot/vmlinuz-3.11.0-14-generic root=UUID=8c51cecc-9054-4edc-8b06-afb7bb4ebd2e ro PulseList: Error: command ['pacmd', 'list'] failed with exit code 1: No PulseAudio daemon running, or not running as session daemon. RelatedPackageVersions: linux-restricted-modules-3.11.0-14-generic N/A linux-backports-modules-3.11.0-14-generic N/A linux-firmware 1.116 RfKill: 0: phy0: Wireless LAN Soft blocked: no Hard blocked: no SourcePackage: linux UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) dmi.bios.date: 08/09/2013 dmi.bios.vendor: American Megatrends Inc. dmi.bios.version: 1.03 dmi.board.asset.tag: To be filled by O.E.M. dmi.board.name: FS47D dmi.board.vendor: Shuttle Inc. dmi.board.version: 1.0 dmi.chassis.asset.tag: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.chassis.type: 10 dmi.chassis.vendor: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.chassis.version: To Be Filled By O.E.M. dmi.modalias: dmi:bvnAmericanMegatrendsInc.:bvr1.03:bd08/09/2013:svnShuttleInc.:pnDS47D:pvrV1.0:rvnShuttleInc.:rnFS47D:rvr1.0:cvnToBeFilledByO.E.M.:ct10:cvrToBeFilledByO.E.M.: dmi.product.name: DS47D dmi.product.version: V1.0 dmi.sys.vendor: Shuttle Inc. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Hello, Can anybody tell me why this bug is still considered Incomplete ? I guess I have been thorough with the informations I supplied as requested : did I do any mistake ? Best regards R. Grasso -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
As a workaround you can try the following setup (kernel module usblp must be loaded, check with lsmod): lpadmin -p test -E -v parallel:/dev/usb/lp0 -P /etc/cups/ppd/DESKJET- 710C.ppd Try to print on this new print queue named test. Does it work? Another workaround is to connect your printer to a router or NAS with print server functionality. Most devices which have a USB or parallel port have this functionality, check the configuration web interface of your device. After that set up your printer as network printer with the IP/hostname of your router/NAS. Please try both workarounds and tell what works for you. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
I understand what you mean. actually I just setup Lprng and it is fully working : locally from lpr - not configurable from KDE/Systemsettings but I don't really care as this is on my firewall - then from my main computer with CUPS 1.6.1, I configured a remote printer : lpd://10.0.0.1/lp I just printed the test page from CUPS successfully, and 2 pages from another document. Unfortunately I don't have any further PCI slot available in my main computer for a true parallel port card. So I have right now a very good workaround. As far as I remember, before sending my first post for this case, I must have tried to print to parallel:/dev/usb/lp0 - and I am almost sure it did not work. Except if this would be very useful to you, as setting up Lprng has required some significant efforts, I would not run this test again right now. Can I ask if you have a clear roadmap leading someday to PL2305 being fully supported by Cups+libusb ? i understand that it must not be a top priority device, but then, there are still some old printers around ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Please do the following on Ubuntu 13.10: Do you have a file named /usr/share/cups/usb/org.cups.usb-quirks Can you attach it? Can you follow the instructions of the section USB printer does not print or prints garbage on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems? Please also try editing the line 0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir in /usr/share/cups/usb/org.cups.usb-quirks Do not change the 0x067b 0x2305 in the beginning, but try other combinations of issue workarounds as described in the initial comments of the file. If you are successful with a combination, please tell us. ** Changed in: cups (Ubuntu) Status: New = Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Wow, Till Kamppeter himself ! Thank you for coming and trying to rescue me ! So, first things first, I am attaching the quirks file ** Attachment added: org.cups.usb-quirks https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+attachment/3934786/+files/org.cups.usb-quirks -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Now, about https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingPrintingProblems and the section USB printer does not print or prints garbage (I guess I already went through this before posting) : btw, the system's current state is : - cups service stopped - usblp reloaded, so that I could have /dev/usb/lp0 in order to run the tests I posted previously. So I modprobe -r usblp but then service cups start seems to start, but lpstat -t does not return ? So I restopped cups, reloaded usblp, restarted cups, and this time lpstat -t returned ? But you rely on libusb now ? weird, weird ? anyway, I am running the tests below with cups enabled and usblp loaded - just to be accurate. 1 - HP Desjet 710C, no network connection 2 : * cancel -a : done * lpadmin -p HP_DESKJET_710C -o usb-unidir-default=true : done * lp lines.ps (containing 56 lines) : I am remembering, I already ran this test : it fails, the printing stops some lines before the last one - it is not always the same (random) * lpadmin -p HP_DESKJET_710C -R usb-unidir-default : done BTW, here I have (as after each printing) : root@rubedo:~# lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: HP_DESKJET_710C device for HP_DESKJET_710C: usb://HP/DESKJET%20710C HP_DESKJET_710C accepting requests since Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:21:00 PM CET printer HP_DESKJET_710C is idle. enabled since Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:21:00 PM CET Sending data to printer. so before running the last test I am restarting cups : root@rubedo:~# service cups restart cups stop/waiting cups start/running, process 9756 root@rubedo:~# lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: HP_DESKJET_710C device for HP_DESKJET_710C: usb://HP/DESKJET%20710C HP_DESKJET_710C accepting requests since Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:21:00 PM CET printer HP_DESKJET_710C is idle. enabled since Mon 23 Dec 2013 08:21:00 PM CET clean ! 3 : * no need for cancel -a, the queue is empty, cups has been reset * lpadmin -p HP_DESKJET_710C -o usb-no-reattach-default=true : done * lp lines.ps : no way ! it stopped at line #54 (as the previous test did) * lpadmin -p HP_DESKJET_710C -R usb-no-reattach-default -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Finally : gosh, I am stupid ! I was searching the quirks file for the Deskjet 710C ! of course there is an entry for the PL2305 chip ! Now, I ran various tests as you requested : I did not try blacklist nor usb-init (I don't have any vendor string) nor vendor-class (I am not sure I understand what this means) nor whitelist. I list below the various tests I ran : in short : the result is, sadly, always the same, as if the line for the PL2305 chip was not taken into account at all. What can we do now ? Tests and their results: --- all disabled : # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) = # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir 0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) (no kidding :-( = # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir 0x067b 0x2305 soft-reset service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) = # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir 0x067b 0x2305 unidir service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) = # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir 0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) = # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir 0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach unidir service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) = # Prolific Technology, Inc. PL2305 Parallel Port (USB - Parallel adapter), https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/987485 #0x067b 0x2305 no-reattach soft-reset unidir 0x067b 0x2305 soft-reset unidir service cups restart lp lines.ps = printing stops at line #54 (no change) ** Attachment added: lines.ps https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+attachment/3934800/+files/lines.ps -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Hello, I upgraded the bios; here is the version : root@rubedo:~# dmidecode -s bios-version ; dmidecode -s bios-release-date 1.04 09/13/2013 As I expected, the cups behavior did not change; nor the successful print through usblp What is your suggestion now ? Best regards R. Grasso -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
boblinux, thank you for updating your BIOS. With your current hardware setup you initially reported with, is this problem not reproducible in a release prior to Saucy? ** Tags removed: bios-outdated-1.04 ** Tags added: latest-bios-1.04 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Hello, Actually, this computer (Shuttle) is my firewall. My main computer is still running Ubuntu 12.10 (I have a boot issue because of my TV card - I don't address this issue now, I am mentioning this just so that your understand why I did not upgrade yet). I just had right now a hardware problem with my USB bus (on my 12.10 main computer), this is why I did not post anything about this in my previous post. I eventually rebooted, and my USB bus is running corretcly now. Thus I was able to reproduce the issues I had noticed some weeks ago : so, with Ubuntu 12.10, which contains cups 1.6.1: I have the exact same behaviour than on my Shuttle with Ubuntu 13.10 ! I mean : - using cups, printing a long page stalls before the end - running my print test with usblp is completely successful. What now ? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Obviously, I noticed this behavior after having unplugged the printer from the Shuttle and having plugged it on the 12.10 computer. I did not report the previous behavior through a network connection, remotely printing from the 12.10 computer onto the printer which would have been connected to the Shuttle : I did not do that : the behavior I noticed on the 12.10 computer was with my printer being locally connected to the 12.10 computer. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
boblinux, thank you for providing the requested information. For regression testing purposes, could you please test for this in a lucid live environment via http://old-releases.ubuntu.com/releases/lucid/ and advise to the results? ** Tags added: quantal ** Also affects: cups (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
I will do it. Possibly not now. I am in France, and it is getting late. Later this week I guess. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
Hey, it was quick ! I found back an old Lucid vm in Virtualbox : I started it , configured the printer in cups, printed the test page : success, it did not stall ! -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/cups/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1258919] Re: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter
I understand why you ask - on http://global.shuttle.com/products/productsDownload?productId=1718panelId=1, they don't mention that v1.04 fixes anything about USB; as I am able to print with usblp, I am not sure that upgrading the Bios will help - however, one never knows - I will do the upgrade this week-end, no time before. Thanks for your time. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1258919 Title: 067b:2305 printing issue with parallel-to-usb adapter To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1258919/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
