This has finally been fixed in Ubuntu 17.10 by not installing xterm by
default.
Anyone that wants to use xterm is welcome to install it and it will have
its proper icon and .desktop launcher.
** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed => Fix Released
** Changed in: ayatana-design
The bug is already marked as fixed, no need to add abusive comments.
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Thomas Dickey, this bug is fixed for Ubuntu GNOME Remix Xubuntu, not
the flagship Ubuntu image.
Thomas Hotz, I *do* want the Design Team's opinion on this bug.
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: Invalid = New
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The decision was already made. However, the current icons for xterm haven't
been discussed.
The only comments have been made based on the pre-SVG icons (and Bicha's
comments about
the website got half of the information incorrect - at a minimum he should have
based his
comments on the source
For example, this is what I see with xterm on Ubuntu - the old icon and
new.
** Attachment added: screenshot of xterm on Ubuntu 12.04
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Three terminal icons is too much, Ubuntu ships with only one tool per
task. Also, the new xterm icon still ugly, I know that it is subjective
but asking about this icons to 9 people around me (3 developers) I got
this:
* 9 in 9 think that it is *very* ugly (both, new and old)
* 8 in 9 ask why
There are 3 icons for Libreoffice on that screenshot.
Each application (xterm, xterm-dev) gets exactly one icon.
You won't be installed xterm-dev; the screenshot merely shows things
side-by-side.
The last comment is odd, since the color scheme of the Terminal icon isn't
like the other icons.
(I
By the way - asking about this, etc., only indicates that you can find
people to agree with you.
That inevitably introduces a bias into the results, and makes it not useful for
this discussion.
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So, 9 in 9 people agree with me plus some people here plus lots of
people that I meet and also have same opnion before I ask anything but
we still need to make this ugly icons available because your opnion is
more important.
Thomas, don't take me as bad but looks like nothing will convince you.
hi - I should not have to explain constructive to you, since you presumably
have agreed to the Ubuntu guidelines.
However, I've found a poor correlation between the guidelines and practice.
Constructive means that you (a) focus on the actual issues, and (b) make
suggestions for improvement.
It
Thank you Jeremy let the design team look at the bug.
My comment wasn't ment to hurt somebody but the original reporter says
(1) we only need one terminal and (2) the icons are quite old and it
would be nice to have icons that fit better in the Unity shell.
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* Add ubuntu logo to gdm greeter screen.
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** Changed in: xterm (Debian)
Status: Unknown = New
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I think the current icons in xterm and xdiagnose don't fit into the
system beacause the other apps have really cool icons.
** Changed in: ayatana-design
Status: New = Invalid
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** Also affects: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Triaged
** Changed in: ubuntu-gnome-default-settings (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low
** Changed in:
Yes, Xubuntu already hide these #836311
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Also, on package gnome-menus we have gnome-menus-blacklist utility that
hide these icons listed on /etc/gnome/menus.blacklist. Unfortunatelly it
is commented on post installation script.
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Jeremy Bicha's comment #19 here (and elsewhere) are a personal attack.
Focusing on the technical issues would be more suitable.
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Thomas, I don't understand why you think I'm making a personal attack.
I understand that ugly and beautiful can be subjective but the icon
does look dated. It uses an olive green square background without
rounded corners. CRT monitors are not popular these days. The icon is
also pixelated which
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #645736
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** Also affects: xterm (Debian) via
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=645736
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Status: Unknown
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Notwithstanding your comments, the information is easily available.
Your repeated ugly is as noted subjective, and given the timeline
(no, I don't believe in coincidence, particularly for repeated slurs by you)
your new comments are apparently in reply to my updates to xterm patch #282.
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My source for the icons are less pixelated on the website comment was
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=12210364postcount=3 which
preceded your version 282 by 3 weeks.
Thomas, I appreciate you maintaining xterm for the past 16 years, but I
think you have a hard time understanding that xterm
This really has nothing to do with xterm, except that the fix needs to
be in the xterm package. Ubuntu is meant to be easy to understand, and
it's really important that new users can explore all of the applications
they are getting out of the box without running into a brick wall or
feeling lost.
Well, then - delete Bicha's remarks, and you'll be achieving that goal.
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mpt, I think the description should be a bit more clear now about what I
want.
As part of a clean desktop, we shouldn't have ugly icons that people
don't really use. Those icons were hidden until 11.10. If I remember
right, the .desktops weren't shipped before then.
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Xubuntu already hides these icons (in xubuntu-default-settings) and the
Ubuntu GNOME Remix will likely do the same thing too.
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I know Opinion is confusing and all, but I hope we can agree that in
one of the comments somebody proposed a solution that is now obsolete
is nowhere near what it means.
That said, it's not clear what the bug is here. The description refers
to Ubuntu 7.10, which is long past its use-by date. If
On Sun, 9 Oct 2011, Matthew Paul Thomas wrote:
I know Opinion is confusing and all, but I hope we can agree that in
one of the comments somebody proposed a solution that is now obsolete
is nowhere near what it means.
That said, it's not clear what the bug is here. The description refers
** Description changed:
- In the system menu there are Xterm and UXTerm icons by default on Gutsy.
+ In Ubuntu 11.10 desktop by default, there are three terminals in the
+ Dash labeled respectively as: Terminal, XTerm, and UXTerm. This is
+ rather confusing for users who are told to just run a
As I said, the default install doesn't have a menu, and in oneiric there
is no classic gnome included in default either.
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By menu items, I meant launcher items in the dash. NoDisplay would hide
them from the dash.
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Since the default session is unity, which doesn't have a menu as classic
GNOME, I'm inclined to close this bug as 'opinion' rather than implement
'NoDisplay', as the package in oneiric does install .desktop files by
default.
The rationale is that apart from Ubuntu/Xubuntu, the other variants
I object to this being marked as Opinion. Who intentionally uses
xterm? If it needs to be there as part of the fallback support, fine.
But it is the ugliest 2 menu items in the default install.
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Yes, please continue to ship the .desktop but set NoDisplay=True
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Pleas return back xterm.desktop file.
Now Unity, Gnome Shell, Gnome-do, all of them recognize programs by
their associated .desktop file.
Because of missing xterm .desktop file it is not possible to add xterm
to unity's or gnome-shell's dash, also it is not possible to launch
xterm trough
Is XTerm still installed by default? If yes, then the solution is to
mark it as hidden - or to stop installing it by default.
** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Released = Triaged
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** Changed in: xterm (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Fix Committed
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Status: Fix Committed = Fix Released
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A fresh install off Tribe 5 with the alternative i386 CD has this menu
entry still.
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And UXTerm?
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Yeah, even the gnome-terminal is only used by like 1% of the desktop users.
But I get why its installed by default. Three is just too much though. At least
remove the .desktop files from the package.
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Furthermore, why do we even have these installed? If your system is so
hosed you can't even use GNOME Terminal, then you should probably just
be using a TTY.
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Not all people prefer gnome-terminal to xterm.
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Not all people prefer Firefox to Epiphany, but I don't see that
affecting default inclusion.
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Sourcepackagename: None = gnome-menus
Importance: Undecided = Low
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the menu items come from the application package
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I can confirm it in my Gutsy!
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