[Bug 1305877] Re: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it
** Changed in: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Status: Triaged => Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Moving to UNCONFIRMED to get QA team to look at it - very likely it's closed again but looking for additional feedback. Thanks for your patience and understanding. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Nevermind I just reread this - it's not a bug, please don't reopen it. For additional info you can check out this extension: http://extensions.libreoffice.org/extension-center/ct2n-convert-text-to- number-and-dates Again - please don't reopen this. Bringing in that extension into core is already reported as an enhancement request. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] Re: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: Confirmed = Invalid -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Dear Eike, m.a.risov and Christopher, Thanks for taking your time with this. As a programmer concerned about user experience (which sometimes I get to practise, when not battling with spreadsheets), the userland behaviour is pretty weird. Why is there an apostrophe in the input line and not in the cell? That breaks all my assumptions about the relationship between the input line and the cell. For example, if I enter a ' into the input line, when a Text formatted cell is selected, I get a ' in the cell. Suddenly making a ' appear in the input line without it being in the cell is strange. Current behaviour seems like a cheap hack to get out of doing some actual conversion logic and user interaction. e.g. 1. Cell chars are all numerals, looks like an integer, no problem - integer 2. Cell chars might look like a decimal number maybe with a , or a . or an E: ask the user what to do (locale-dependent sensible default required) 3. Function text is included (e.g. =, SUM(A1:A10), etc.) if it parses, - no problem 4. Something else is there, random text, whatever. Then just apply number format to the cell and behave as though the user typed the same string of chars into the cell. I hope that you can see that these solutions are, from a user perspective, somewhat more appealing than the current behaviour which is something like: prepend a ', but only display it in the input line and not in the cell. Don't warn the user that this has happened because of an unwillingness to change the underlying datatype of the cell. Also don't tell them that they have to apply an obscure, terse regex to get rid of the ' and make the data how they want it: let them try to find it on the wiki (assumes motivation and a working internet connection). Allow them to waste their time working out how to reenter their data / figure out the correct combination of copy-paste options. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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That's not a bug. Applying a cell format never changes the cell content. The ' apostrophe in the input line is prepended so that when editing the content it stays text. Removing the ' will accept the input as number then. You can bulk change multiple cells by selecting them, apply a number format and then invoke FindReplace Search: ^. Replace: $0 and in options check regular expression and selection only. Or use the Convert-Text-To-Number extension from http://extensions.libreoffice.org /extension-center/ct2n-convert-text-to-number-and-dates -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Hi Michael, even you don't like how it works, it is not a bug as Eike have explained, and he knows, as expert developer, about what he is talking. Changing the cell format never change their content, unintuitive or not, this is a basic assumption in a spreadsheet, and I hope this will be always so. If there are not formulas, you can copy the range and select the unformatted text option in the right arrow of the paste button. Or if it is only a column with data using Menu/Data/Text to columns. If you are not agree, please open a new bug as a request for enhancement, detailing as much as possible what you want. Next comment I attach a file sample how to extract the data from your web page, throuhg Menu/Insert/Link to external data. You can see and edit the link in Menu/Edit/Links. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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For the record I'd like to note that this is a bizarre, unintuitive intended behaviour, and the fix you propose is equally bizarre and unintuitive. Having to install an extension seems way over the top for what should be a core functionality (I guess at some point someone was so desperate to do this that they resorted to coding the extension!). I first attempted a find-replace for ' - [empty], which didn't work. Your regex example will be totally opaque to nearly all users. The answer to the pasting some data from a website problem is to Paste Special... get the delimiters right and make sure to check the box to detect special numbers (my data are here: http://physics.nist.gov/PhysRefData/XrayMassCoef/ComTab/pyrex.html ). -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Created attachment 97240 Sample file linking data in a web page -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
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Eike Rathke, thanks for taking a quick look at this. Given when one comes from using Excel, where if one converted the Category from a Text to a Number, no apostrophe is appended, and how the LO code had designed an apostrophe in, this would be an Excel functionality compatibility expectations report. Hence, would the WORKAROUND you documented in https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77317#c2 be documented on the LO wiki at http://help.libreoffice.org/Main_Page ? m.a.riosv, suggesting the original reporter create now a third report (one downstream, this one, and your suggested third) because they didn't know it's an enhancement vs. a bug is a terrible habit of the OpenOffice.org bugzilla I've seen happen to others and personally experienced, and that we here at LibreOffice would not want to replicate. Hence, I've gone ahead and marked this lowest enhancement given the advised WORKAROUNDs. Thank you for your understanding. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] Re: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it
** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: New = Confirmed ** Changed in: df-libreoffice Importance: Medium = Wishlist -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] Re: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it
** Summary changed: - ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it + [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: [Upstream] ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] Re: ' prepended when applying Number format to Text format cell with a number in it
** Summary changed: - ' prepended when applying Scientific or Number format to Text format cell + ' prepended when applying Number format to Text format cell with a number in it -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: ' prepended when applying Number format to Text format cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] Re: ' prepended when applying Number format to Text format cell with a number in it
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[Bug 1305877] Re: ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it
** Bug watch added: freedesktop.org Bugzilla #77317 https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77317 ** Also affects: df-libreoffice via https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77317 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] Re: ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it
Launchpad has imported 2 comments from the remote bug at https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=77317. If you reply to an imported comment from within Launchpad, your comment will be sent to the remote bug automatically. Read more about Launchpad's inter-bugtracker facilities at https://help.launchpad.net/InterBugTracking. On 2014-04-11T09:08:15+00:00 Michael Doube wrote: This is a simple bug in Calc which can be replicated by doing the following: 1. Set a cell format to Text 2. enter a numerical value into the cell (e.g. 1 or 1E1) 3. Set the cell format to Number or Scientific 4. Note that the cell data is left justified and has a ' prepended to it in the input line, which is not visible in the cell itself This means that the cell value still interpreted as text and not as a number, so it's impossible to plot it in a chart or do arithmetic with it. I hit this the first time when copying some data from a website into Calc. The numerical values were not recognised and were automatially pasted into Text formatted cells (OK, that's understandable). BUT: changing the values to Number or Scientific format didn't change the underlying datatype of the cell from characters to numbers. Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1305877/comments/3 On 2014-04-11T09:08:54+00:00 Michael Doube wrote: Downstream bug report: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1305877 Reply at: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1305877/comments/4 ** Changed in: df-libreoffice Status: Unknown = New ** Changed in: df-libreoffice Importance: Unknown = Medium -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: ' prepended when applying Number Category to Text Category cell with a number in it To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/df-libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
[Bug 1305877] [NEW] ' prepended when applying Scientific or Number format to Text format cell
Public bug reported: When I paste some numerical data the cell format is set to Text. ALternatively I could type some number into a cell with Text format. When I change the format to Scientific or Number, a ' gets prepended to the cell content and is therefore not recognised as a number. To replicate: Open calc Set the cell format to 'Text' Enter into the cell a numerical value, such as 1 or 1E1 Change the format to Number or Scientific Note that the cell is shown as left-justified and without an extra ', and in the function bar it is shown with a ' prepended (e.g. '1 or '1E1). This bug only occurs when the cell format is set to Text prior to the content being added. ProblemType: Bug DistroRelease: Ubuntu 12.04 Package: libreoffice-calc 1:3.5.7-0ubuntu5 ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 3.2.0-60.91-generic 3.2.55 Uname: Linux 3.2.0-60-generic x86_64 NonfreeKernelModules: nvidia ApportVersion: 2.0.1-0ubuntu17.6 Architecture: amd64 Date: Thu Apr 10 14:10:51 2014 InstallationMedia: Ubuntu 12.04.1 LTS Precise Pangolin - Release amd64+mac (20120823.1) MarkForUpload: True SourcePackage: libreoffice UpgradeStatus: No upgrade log present (probably fresh install) ** Affects: libreoffice (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: amd64 apport-bug precise running-unity ** Summary changed: - ' prepended when applying Scientific format to cell + ' prepended when applying Scientific or Number format to Text format cell -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1305877 Title: ' prepended when applying Scientific or Number format to Text format cell To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/libreoffice/+bug/1305877/+subscriptions -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs
