[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[ISIDOROS]

Brian

finally i have the machine next to me (it was on a vessel... somewhere
at the sea).

so i can confirm that the UUIDs are the same for both disks (sda/sdb).
That is because i've created the partitions to the sdb disk by using the
command sfdisk -d /dev/sda|sfdisk /dev/sdb

after that i have created the mirroning raid (mdadm) for the two disks.

i can understand the "Random process" between sda/sdb due to same UUIDs.
But why the files inside the raid mirroring are missing!? Despite of
which disk will actually boot, I suppose that the files should be
there,... am i missing something?

Regards

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

** Description changed:

  In the past 2 weeks I have experienced at least 2 instances of new files
  either downloaded from the web or copied from an external drive to my
  Ubuntu 14.04 final beta system (x64 bit ubuntu desktop) disappearing
  from my system.
  
  The first instance was an .mpg file downloaded from the web.   I had
  actually been watching that .mpg using VLC but stopped it and planned to
  continue the next morning.   I shutdown the system and the next morning
  restarted it.
  
  I went to the directory that the Movie (.mpg) file was the night before
  ... now the directory was empty.
  
  Yesterday... I copied 15 Microsoft Word documents to my Ubuntu 14.04 system 
from a USB external drive.
  I edited each of those files with LibreWriter, saved the edit and printed the 
documents.
  
  Last night I again shutdown my system and this morning restarted it.
  I again used Nautilus to go to the directory where the .ODT and .DOCX
  files were the night before again... the directory was there but
  there were NO files.
  
  I am NOT deleting those files and I am not sure what is going on.
  After the first occurrence I thought I thought I'd must have deleted the
  .mpg movie...  but after the 2nd occurrence ... and losing 30 new files
  (the original 15 Word docs and the 15 .ODT documents created from those
  Word Docs...  I believe Ubuntu is losing these files.
  
  I searched my entire 2TB disk (sudo find / -name *.odt -print) and it
  does NOT find any of the .odt files)  same for the Word files.
  
  I wanted to report this in case others are having this occur.If this
  is a Bug ... it would be a nasty one to get into the final release!
  
  I DO NOT believe any files existing on the disk prior ot the recent
  upgrade to the final Beta are or have been affected ... I think only
  "new" files created after the Final Beta upgrade.
  
  My file system is a 2TB HD ext4.
  
  I've checked the disk  and the system reports NO disk errors.
+ 
+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
+Resolution
+ = = = = = = = = = = = = = = =
+ 
+ The above problem occurred because of use of Clonezilla to clone my hard
+ drive (/dev/sda) so I could select at boot time to boot the original or
+ a modified clone of the original.
+ 
+ The problem occurs because in the cloning the UUID gets cloned also so
+ you end up with 2 disks with the same ID.
+ 
+ At boot time it becomes an OS race (ie random choice) which HD gets 
recognized and which one doesn't and I found that they choice can actually
+ switch back & forth which confuses you even more
+ 
+ execute the cmd:
+ 
+ $ man uuidgen
+ 
+ it will show you how to generate a unique/new UUID for your disks
+ 
+ After using Clonezilla to clone your hard drive you may have it in an
+ external eSata drive bay at boot time and expect to be able to choose which
+ disk to boot from (the original -- or the cloned disk).
+ 
+ But when you boot its random which one is recognized as say /dev/sda.
+ 
+ After cloning an HD you need to create a new UUID for it and then edit
+ you /etc/fstab and change the new disk's UUID to that.
+ 
+ to verify:
+ 
+ $ more /etc/fstab
+ 
+ and see if you have a duplicate UUID listed use uuidgen to generate a new 
random UUID and change one of the disks to that new random UUID to avoid
+ problems

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[Brian Murray]

Brian - could you update the bug description, using the pencil icon to
the far right of Bug Description, to modify the description with the
root cause and solution?  This'll help other people who encounter this
same issue.  Thanks!

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Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

Isidoros

I think your problem was the same mistake I made cloning a disk.

When you reinstall the new disk you need to create a new UUID for it and
then edit /etc/fstab and change the new disks UUID to that.

check:

$ more /etc/fstab

and see if you have a duplicate UUID listed

The problem occurs because in the cloning the UUID gets cloned also so you
end up with 2 disks with the same ID.   At boot time
it becomes kind of a random choice which one gets recognized and which one
doesn't and I found that they choice can actually
switch back & forth which confuses you even more

execute the cmd:

$ man uuidgen

it will show you how to generate a unique/new UUID for your disks


On Fri, Jun 17, 2016 at 2:44 AM, ISIDOROS  wrote:

> i'm facing the same issue with mdadm raid mirroring disks.
>
> I have cloned my original sda disk to the new sda disk (via clonezilla).
> The original disk has configured to use raid mirroring but only one
> brick (the current one) is available.
>
> After finishing clonezilla restoration, i have added a brick to raid
> mirroring for sdb disk.
> At the end i have updated grub to both disks.
>
> I have done this to almost 300 machines. But in some rare cases (2)
> ubuntu is missing important files that was created after the
> installation (clonezilla and raid).
>
> I suppose that "the missing files" issue is about that the ubuntu
> somehow decided to boot from sdb disk, although should be identical to
> sda (because of mirroring), some files are missing!
>
> Weird!
>
> Isidoros
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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[ISIDOROS]

i'm facing the same issue with mdadm raid mirroring disks.

I have cloned my original sda disk to the new sda disk (via clonezilla).
The original disk has configured to use raid mirroring but only one
brick (the current one) is available.

After finishing clonezilla restoration, i have added a brick to raid mirroring 
for sdb disk. 
At the end i have updated grub to both disks.

I have done this to almost 300 machines. But in some rare cases (2)
ubuntu is missing important files that was created after the
installation (clonezilla and raid).

I suppose that "the missing files" issue is about that the ubuntu
somehow decided to boot from sdb disk, although should be identical to
sda (because of mirroring), some files are missing!

Weird!

Isidoros

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

This bug report can closed.

Its not a bug but an unintentional side affect of using Clonezilla to
clone a primary drive.

Clonezilla does clone the primary drive properly but the new disk with
the cloned image retains the UUID's of the original drive.

This now causes confusion to grub at boot time because their are 2 hard
disks with the same UUID's present.

Its simple enough on the newly cloned drive to use UUIDGEN to get new UUID's 
and then
modify the new drive's /etc/fstab entries for its mount points to use those 
UUID's and not the original drive's.

Brian

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Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

Roman thanks... yes I'd realized that is what had happened quite a while
sgo & gixed it... forgot to update the bug report though.   Anyone using
clonezilla to dup their primary drive as a backup measure needs to be aware
of this
On Jan 28, 2016 6:35 PM, "rchyla"  wrote:

> run 'blkid' and check if you have identical UUIDs
>
> if yes, you may be affected by the same problem as me; i've recently
> cloned my partititions (using dd), and I didn't realize (or even
> thought!) that the ubuntu will sometimes use the one, and in other times
> the other partition (one was on SSD, one on spinning drive)
>
> I fixed the problem by:
>
> 1. booting into 'try ubuntu'
> 2. running gparted and generating new UUIDs
> 3. editing /etc/fstab (to set the new UUIDs)
> 4. and doing 'rsync' to copy over my new data (from the old destination)
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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[rchyla]

run 'blkid' and check if you have identical UUIDs

if yes, you may be affected by the same problem as me; i've recently
cloned my partititions (using dd), and I didn't realize (or even
thought!) that the ubuntu will sometimes use the one, and in other times
the other partition (one was on SSD, one on spinning drive)

I fixed the problem by:

1. booting into 'try ubuntu'
2. running gparted and generating new UUIDs
3. editing /etc/fstab (to set the new UUIDs)
4. and doing 'rsync' to copy over my new data (from the old destination)

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

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   Status: New => Confirmed

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[Conor O'Callaghan]

I am seeing this issue with a filesystem on a HP n40l microserver
running OpenSuSE 13.2.

I have an ext4 formatted partition appx. 2TB. When I reboot some files
are missing and return on reboot. This can occur anywhere on the tree.

Perhaps this is a kernel or filesystem issue?

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[Py]

Hello,

I am just here to report that I have the same problem too. It occured
sometime between last tuesday and today, and several of the .jpg and
.png files located in my home/me/pictures have dissapeared, seemingly at
random. (All were downloaded from the internet. The date at which they
were downloaded does not seem to come into play).

My OS is Ubuntu 14.04 LTS 64 bit
My PC is an HP Pavilion dv7t-7000

Just as Ivanna, I very rarely switch my PC off.

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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[Ivanna]

I have the same problem.

I thought that only the files on /home/ivanna/Descargas dissapear.
So I created a new folder /home/ivanna/DESCARGAS.
And the files dessapear too!!
Only the files,  folders do not disappear

I only reboot my pc where the updates ask me to. My Pc is on all the
time.

My HDD is fine!!

Help!!

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Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

I may have found a source for my problem... ubuntu 14.04 has had several
bugs with grub installation.

My system has 3 - 2TB drives ... all bought at the same time and all the
SAME Model, SAME Vendor, SAME size and I originally had formatted all with
EXT4.

I'll call them Drives A, B, C in this description.

Drive A was the drive I was always using for my primary 14.04 testing
environment and on which I had the previously described files that
appeared to go missing.

Drives B and C were never mounted while using Drive A

I had used Clonezilla a couple months ago to clone Drive A (at that time)
onto Drives B and C

Yesterday while trying to figure out what was going on I physically
disconnected Drives B, C and then tried to boot the only connected drive...
drive A

I also recorded the Serial Number of each HD so I could tell them apart
better.

Drive A would not boot no error it would just display the Bios splash
screen, clear and then blinking cursor.

Drives B and C would boot up Okay ... and they have basically exactly the
same ~/Desktop files, and ~/Documents as the HD I had been using as my
primary 14.04 testing environment except they didn't have the latest
work (re files, virtualbox images etc) that I had been using.

I now think what was happening to me was when I installed the Final Beta
in the past on Drive A...

All would work fine until the next time I did a Shutdown/Bootup... at which
time my system on Power-Up couldn't find a Grub bootloader on A so it would
boot B (or C).
To my eyes... all looked identical to the Drive A system except recent
files were not present.
FSCK and SMART tests of course would pass on the drive that did boot up the
system (it would pass on any of the 3 drives because it wasn't an HD
problem).

Yesterday I used my live-CD .. Grub Disk-Repair and reinstalled Grub on the
drive that did not boot... Drive A... then booted off of it.*That Drive
A .. had all the missing files.*

I think during installation of the Final Beta I hit one of the 14.04 Grub
bugs I have found reported on Launchpad which must have wiped out Grub on
Drive A.

That was probably when I reported the 1st occurrence of lost files.

As part of troubleshooting that and thinking perhaps my original HD was
going bad...  I had used a Grub Disk-Repair to change either Drive B or
Drive C to boot first instead of Drive A (the now suspect drive)

Restored the files I had recently been working with from a USB drive and
just kept going.

With the release of 14.04 last Thursday (17)... I now believe either the
same one of the reported Grub bugs did the same thing and again I thought I
was losing files.

In actuality that HD still had my files and I could keep working with them
... UNTIL I did a Shutdown/Bootup again... at which time the whole above
sequence would start over.

Since the HD's are all Identical and in appearance of general ~/Desktop
~/Documents ~/Downloads seem like the HD that had been my working drive
EXCEPT for the Serial Number was changed.!!

Again, I restored Grub to the only HD that wouldn't boot,   Rebooted and
all my most recently missing files were back.

I now think this is what has been happening to me with my system.


On Sun, Apr 20, 2014 at 12:09 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 This problem of disappearing files is still occurring.  Sometimes they
 reappear after some number of reboots and sometimes not.

 I had been running the Ubuntu 14.04 final beta but last week upgraded
 everything to the released packages.

 Everything has seemed fine until today.   For the past 3 days I had been
 working in a VirtualBox Ubuntu 14.04 VM on my Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop pc.

 This morning after rebooting the VirtualBox VM  its associated files were
 not on my system (last night they were).

 Again, booted GPARTED off CD and ran file system check on my SDA1... no
 errors found.
 Booted that drive and ran the DISKS program... ran the extensive version
 of the SMART disk tests... Disk is reported OK and no errors.

 I am hoping someone can tell me how I can even troubleshoot something like
 this.

 I am cloning the drive to a 2nd HD ... just in case there is any
 possibility it is the HD itself... but I don't think so or it would seem to
 me that some error would be detected by either SMART tests of FSCK...???

 I think this may be something with the EXT4 file system  ubuntu itself?

 Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

 Thanks
 brian



 On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:35 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok.. today I had VirtualBox disappear from my system.   Booted up and 3
 of the Virtualbox files were missing:

 virtualbox
 virtualbox-qt
 virtualbox-dkms

 I am absolutely certain I did not delete those myself.   Other components
 of virtualbox still showed as installed (guest additions etc).

 Brian




 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:07 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok... this is getting weird.

 I just sent that last email.

 The trying to 

Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

This problem of disappearing files is still occurring.  Sometimes they
reappear after some number of reboots and sometimes not.

I had been running the Ubuntu 14.04 final beta but last week upgraded
everything to the released packages.

Everything has seemed fine until today.   For the past 3 days I had been
working in a VirtualBox Ubuntu 14.04 VM on my Ubuntu 14.04 Desktop pc.

This morning after rebooting the VirtualBox VM  its associated files were
not on my system (last night they were).

Again, booted GPARTED off CD and ran file system check on my SDA1... no
errors found.
Booted that drive and ran the DISKS program... ran the extensive version of
the SMART disk tests... Disk is reported OK and no errors.

I am hoping someone can tell me how I can even troubleshoot something like
this.

I am cloning the drive to a 2nd HD ... just in case there is any
possibility it is the HD itself... but I don't think so or it would seem to
me that some error would be detected by either SMART tests of FSCK...???

I think this may be something with the EXT4 file system  ubuntu itself?

Any help or ideas would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks
brian


On Mon, Apr 14, 2014 at 6:35 PM, brian mullan
bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok.. today I had VirtualBox disappear from my system.   Booted up and 3 of
 the Virtualbox files were missing:

 virtualbox
 virtualbox-qt
 virtualbox-dkms

 I am absolutely certain I did not delete those myself.   Other components
 of virtualbox still showed as installed (guest additions etc).

 Brian




 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:07 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok... this is getting weird.

 I just sent that last email.

 The trying to recreate...

 I copied 1 directory of 30 files from a USB3 drive to my 14.04 HD to my
 ~/Desktop directory.
 Confirmed both the directory I copied and the files in it were there.

 Checked the ~/Desktop/family directory where I had originally put the
 Word .docx and .odp files and that directory was still empty.

 I rebooted.

 then .. checked to see that the new directory of files I had copied to
 my HD... it was.

 I checked the ~/Desktop/family folder again... now instead of it being
 empty... all of the original .docx and .odp files are back... and time
 stamped yesterday ..???

 I again ran fsck and again it reports no errors.

 I understand I am still using Beta code so ... just delete the Bug
 1306237.   You can delete the bug I filed as I am not sure I know how to
 figure out what is going on with my file system.
 Hopefully whatever is going on goes away/disappears with future updates
 to 14.04 as I know alot is going on prior the 17th.

 Thanks

 Brian





 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:22 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 The .mpg movie was just downloaded to my ~/Downloads directory

 The 15 Word .docx files were copied from a USB drive I use to transfer
 from my business Win7 laptop via a USB3 cable to my Ubuntu 14.04 machine.
 For those files I created a new directory in my ~/Desktop
 and copied the files there.   Then edited each of them with
 libre-writer, saved each to that same directory as a .ODT file then printed
 each file.

 In both cases, I did a normal shutdown of my Ubuntu and the next day
 powered the system up and found the files gone.

 The first time with the .mpg file I blew it off as I could always get
 the movie again and figured I must have somehow deleted it.

 However, the 2nd time those Word Docs were for my youngest Son's college
 admissions documents we need to send to the 8 Universities that accepted
 him I know I would not have deleted those, especially after all the
 edits I'd done. But the next day after the system booted I couldn't
 find them.   The directory was there but neither the original 15 .docx
 files nor 15 modified .ODT files were there ... the directory was empty.

 That's when I rebooted to a live CD and did the fsck... but that showed
 no disk errors or lost data.

 Sorry I can't be more specific or point to anything in particular.   The
 best I can do is try to recreate it.

 I only filed the bug because if this is a bug and other's were seeing
 something like this they may be like me and just be thinking they were
 imagining things.But if someone else is seeing this then it was a way
 to know it was just yourself.

 I am going to do both steps again and then tonite shutdown and boot
 tomorrow and and see if anything goes missing.   However, I have also been
 trying to keep up with the Beta code drops by doing a
 apt-get update, apt-get upgrade each day... so unless it happens again
 it could be a problem come  gone.

 Brian



 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 8:57 PM, Brian Murray br...@ubuntu.com wrote:

 What folder did you put the files in?

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Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

Ok.. today I had VirtualBox disappear from my system.   Booted up and 3 of
the Virtualbox files were missing:

virtualbox
virtualbox-qt
virtualbox-dkms

I am absolutely certain I did not delete those myself.   Other components
of virtualbox still showed as installed (guest additions etc).

Brian



On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 10:07 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 Ok... this is getting weird.

 I just sent that last email.

 The trying to recreate...

 I copied 1 directory of 30 files from a USB3 drive to my 14.04 HD to my
 ~/Desktop directory.
 Confirmed both the directory I copied and the files in it were there.

 Checked the ~/Desktop/family directory where I had originally put the Word
 .docx and .odp files and that directory was still empty.

 I rebooted.

 then .. checked to see that the new directory of files I had copied to
 my HD... it was.

 I checked the ~/Desktop/family folder again... now instead of it being
 empty... all of the original .docx and .odp files are back... and time
 stamped yesterday ..???

 I again ran fsck and again it reports no errors.

 I understand I am still using Beta code so ... just delete the Bug
 1306237.   You can delete the bug I filed as I am not sure I know how to
 figure out what is going on with my file system.
 Hopefully whatever is going on goes away/disappears with future updates to
 14.04 as I know alot is going on prior the 17th.

 Thanks

 Brian





 On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:22 PM, brian mullan bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 The .mpg movie was just downloaded to my ~/Downloads directory

 The 15 Word .docx files were copied from a USB drive I use to transfer
 from my business Win7 laptop via a USB3 cable to my Ubuntu 14.04 machine.
 For those files I created a new directory in my ~/Desktop
 and copied the files there.   Then edited each of them with libre-writer,
 saved each to that same directory as a .ODT file then printed each file.

 In both cases, I did a normal shutdown of my Ubuntu and the next day
 powered the system up and found the files gone.

 The first time with the .mpg file I blew it off as I could always get the
 movie again and figured I must have somehow deleted it.

 However, the 2nd time those Word Docs were for my youngest Son's college
 admissions documents we need to send to the 8 Universities that accepted
 him I know I would not have deleted those, especially after all the
 edits I'd done. But the next day after the system booted I couldn't
 find them.   The directory was there but neither the original 15 .docx
 files nor 15 modified .ODT files were there ... the directory was empty.

 That's when I rebooted to a live CD and did the fsck... but that showed
 no disk errors or lost data.

 Sorry I can't be more specific or point to anything in particular.   The
 best I can do is try to recreate it.

 I only filed the bug because if this is a bug and other's were seeing
 something like this they may be like me and just be thinking they were
 imagining things.But if someone else is seeing this then it was a way
 to know it was just yourself.

 I am going to do both steps again and then tonite shutdown and boot
 tomorrow and and see if anything goes missing.   However, I have also been
 trying to keep up with the Beta code drops by doing a
 apt-get update, apt-get upgrade each day... so unless it happens again it
 could be a problem come  gone.

 Brian



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[Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[Brian Murray]

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Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

The .mpg movie was just downloaded to my ~/Downloads directory

The 15 Word .docx files were copied from a USB drive I use to transfer from
my business Win7 laptop via a USB3 cable to my Ubuntu 14.04 machine.   For
those files I created a new directory in my ~/Desktop
and copied the files there.   Then edited each of them with libre-writer,
saved each to that same directory as a .ODT file then printed each file.

In both cases, I did a normal shutdown of my Ubuntu and the next day
powered the system up and found the files gone.

The first time with the .mpg file I blew it off as I could always get the
movie again and figured I must have somehow deleted it.

However, the 2nd time those Word Docs were for my youngest Son's college
admissions documents we need to send to the 8 Universities that accepted
him I know I would not have deleted those, especially after all the
edits I'd done. But the next day after the system booted I couldn't
find them.   The directory was there but neither the original 15 .docx
files nor 15 modified .ODT files were there ... the directory was empty.

That's when I rebooted to a live CD and did the fsck... but that showed no
disk errors or lost data.

Sorry I can't be more specific or point to anything in particular.   The
best I can do is try to recreate it.

I only filed the bug because if this is a bug and other's were seeing
something like this they may be like me and just be thinking they were
imagining things.But if someone else is seeing this then it was a way
to know it was just yourself.

I am going to do both steps again and then tonite shutdown and boot
tomorrow and and see if anything goes missing.   However, I have also been
trying to keep up with the Beta code drops by doing a
apt-get update, apt-get upgrade each day... so unless it happens again it
could be a problem come  gone.

Brian


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Re: [Bug 1306237] Re: Ubuntu 14.04 final beta - files disappearing

[brian mullan]

Ok... this is getting weird.

I just sent that last email.

The trying to recreate...

I copied 1 directory of 30 files from a USB3 drive to my 14.04 HD to my
~/Desktop directory.
Confirmed both the directory I copied and the files in it were there.

Checked the ~/Desktop/family directory where I had originally put the Word
.docx and .odp files and that directory was still empty.

I rebooted.

then .. checked to see that the new directory of files I had copied to my
HD... it was.

I checked the ~/Desktop/family folder again... now instead of it being
empty... all of the original .docx and .odp files are back... and time
stamped yesterday ..???

I again ran fsck and again it reports no errors.

I understand I am still using Beta code so ... just delete the Bug
1306237.   You can delete the bug I filed as I am not sure I know how to
figure out what is going on with my file system.
Hopefully whatever is going on goes away/disappears with future updates to
14.04 as I know alot is going on prior the 17th.

Thanks

Brian



On Thu, Apr 10, 2014 at 9:22 PM, brian mullan
bmullan.m...@gmail.comwrote:

 The .mpg movie was just downloaded to my ~/Downloads directory

 The 15 Word .docx files were copied from a USB drive I use to transfer
 from my business Win7 laptop via a USB3 cable to my Ubuntu 14.04 machine.
 For those files I created a new directory in my ~/Desktop
 and copied the files there.   Then edited each of them with libre-writer,
 saved each to that same directory as a .ODT file then printed each file.

 In both cases, I did a normal shutdown of my Ubuntu and the next day
 powered the system up and found the files gone.

 The first time with the .mpg file I blew it off as I could always get the
 movie again and figured I must have somehow deleted it.

 However, the 2nd time those Word Docs were for my youngest Son's college
 admissions documents we need to send to the 8 Universities that accepted
 him I know I would not have deleted those, especially after all the
 edits I'd done. But the next day after the system booted I couldn't
 find them.   The directory was there but neither the original 15 .docx
 files nor 15 modified .ODT files were there ... the directory was empty.

 That's when I rebooted to a live CD and did the fsck... but that showed no
 disk errors or lost data.

 Sorry I can't be more specific or point to anything in particular.   The
 best I can do is try to recreate it.

 I only filed the bug because if this is a bug and other's were seeing
 something like this they may be like me and just be thinking they were
 imagining things.But if someone else is seeing this then it was a way
 to know it was just yourself.

 I am going to do both steps again and then tonite shutdown and boot
 tomorrow and and see if anything goes missing.   However, I have also been
 trying to keep up with the Beta code drops by doing a
 apt-get update, apt-get upgrade each day... so unless it happens again it
 could be a problem come  gone.

 Brian



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