[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

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On 2008-08-04T22:25:46+00:00 Adam wrote:

Description of problem:
I have upgraded a new F9 system to Rawhide.  Whereas other recent bugs related 
to switching runlevels, I have seen the creation of lots of console-kit-daemon 
processes when going straight into runlevel 5.  As of this writing, there are 
62 such processes on the system, which has been up 30 minutes.

Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
ConsoleKit-0.3.0-1.fc10.x86_64

How reproducible:


Steps to Reproduce:
1.
2.
3.
  
Actual results:


Expected results:


Additional info:

excerpt of pstree output:

init─┬─/usr/bin/sealer
 ├─NetworkManager───{NetworkManager}
 ├─acpid
 ├─anacron
 ├─atd
 ├─auditd─┬─audispd───{audispd}
 │└─{auditd}
 ├─avahi-daemon───avahi-daemon
 ├─bonobo-activati───{bonobo-activati}
 ├─clock-applet
 ├─console-kit-dae───62*[{console-kit-dae}]
 ├─crond
 ├─cupsd
 ├─2*[dbus-daemon───{dbus-daemon}]
 ├─2*[dbus-launch]

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On 2008-08-05T22:28:43+00:00 Matthias wrote:

This is not a bug, it is working around the limitiations of the linux vt system.
These are threads, one for each vt, sleeping in VT_WAITACTIVE.

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On 2009-03-24T20:57:13+00:00 Jason wrote:

Created attachment 336537
Patch for ConsoleKit 0.30 to remove so many threads

This patch changes ConsoleKit to use an new VT ioctl and wait on a
terminal switch without requiring a thread for every possible VT.

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On 2009-03-24T20:59:26+00:00 Jason wrote:

Created attachment 336538
Kernel patch to add new VT ioctl.

This patch must be added to the kernel to support the previous patch for
ConsoleKit.  Basically we add a VT_WAITSWITCH ioctl which sleeps until
any virtual console switch occurs; this allows ConsoleKit to only use
one thread to wait, and it uses the VT_GETSTATE ioctl to determine the
active VT (as with Solaris implementation).

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On 2009-10-29T00:20:30+00:00 Topher wrote:

FYI: I'm seeing the same thing in F12. (63 console-kit-daemon processes)

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** Changed in: consolekit (Fedora)
   Importance: Unknown => Medium

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2013-11-19 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
No. Look at the actually used RAM:
VmRSS:   4012 kB
4 Megabytes. Oh dear.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2013-11-14 Thread janevert
I think somebody should take a serious look at this. Have a look at this from 
the c-k-d status:
VmPeak:  2091776 kB
VmSize:  2091744 kB
VmLck: 0 kB
VmPin: 0 kB
VmHWM:  4012 kB
VmRSS:  4012 kB
VmData:  2052720 kB
VmStk:   136 kB
VmExe:   136 kB
VmLib:  5820 kB
VmPTE:   240 kB
VmSwap:0 kB

So it is using ~2GB for data?! Why does it need 2G?
On a PC with 4G that's half of the memory.

In #128 it was mentioned that consolekit will be merged in systemd. It's
been 2 years since. When will it happen?

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2013-05-25 Thread A. Denton
See #101 and #128, please. I suggested you to do nothing at all. The
memory consumption has nothing to do with the bugs name console-kit-
daemon spawns too many threads (comment #107, #108, #110, #116) in my
opinion. And threads are not expensive when it comes to context
changes. Also some people here seem not to understand the concept of
virtual memory. The developer from freedesktop.org pointed that out
AFIR.

My opinion is still: do nothing at all. Neither is it worth the time nor
is this bug from 2007-10-03 still an issue. The old UNIX system V init
system is not the latest technology and superseded mostly although not
exclusively by systemd. Additionally the latest stable kernel version is
now 3.9.3 and in Ubuntu 10.04.x LTS its 3.2.0-xx LTS kernel (until 2016)
or via LES (EnablementStack) its 3.5.0 and 3.8.0 from quantal and raring
respectively.

I do not have the powers to change this bug to WONT FIX state. Someone
here at Launchpad either give that permission to me or mark it as such,
please.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2012-05-30 Thread Dan Kegel
See also http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/ckremoval
Supposedly the new Fedora solves the problem by replacing consolekit with 
systemd.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2011-11-23 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Bug watch added: Red Hat Bugzilla #643367
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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2011-06-17 Thread jstalin
Still having this problem in 10.04.2. Dozens of console-kit-daemon
processes are spawned rather randomly.

** Changed in: consolekit (Ubuntu)
   Status: Invalid = Opinion

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2011-03-18 Thread djwiz
I didn't understand how we can solve the problem on our system, we have
to download a patch? where is the link and how it solve the problem?

the solution is going to be included in a next distribution?

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2011-02-03 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: consolekit
   Importance: Unknown = Medium

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2011-01-24 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: consolekit
   Status: Fix Released = Confirmed

** Changed in: consolekit
   Importance: Medium = Unknown

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-12-30 Thread Lasse Luttermann
** Changed in: consolekit (Ubuntu)
   Status: Triaged = Invalid

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-08-17 Thread ntucker
I have a server running karmic and I stumbled across this bug via google
after noticing that console-kit-daemon is currently using up 1519m
virtual and 546m resident memory (according to top).  Just a datapoint
for those who don't think this sort of bloat is worth tracking down.
I'm still unclear on what exactly consolekit even does, especially on a
server which never even gets a single console used, let alone 63 of
them.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-08-17 Thread valus
Since the devs are obviously not even remotely interested in fixing this
problem, and I don't have the skills/knowledge to fix it myself, I
recompiled the kernel source after editing include/linux/vt.h and
reducing 63 (64 ttys) to 11 (12 ttys). At least now console-kit-daemon
eats less memory according to the free command.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-07-15 Thread codeshepherd
my ubuntu server has 63 threads of CKD running.


pstree
init─┬─atd
 ├─avahi-daemon───avahi-daemon
 ├─beanstalkd
 ├─console-kit-dae───63*[{console-kit-dae}]


Is there a way to gracefully exit CKD? I am a bit paranoid about using sudo 
killall.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-05-29 Thread Peshko R.
Wow...I am surprised that after 2.5 years and multiple releases we are
still talking about this bug...I had it in 9.10 64-bit and I upgraded to
10.04 64-bit and still have it...Was it gutsy that it was reported
on...?

When I run htop I have 87 processes (PID 1090 to 1177) of /usr/sbin
/console-kit-daemon --no-daemon

Now, truthfully speaking I cannot get ps -ef on all of the processes (I
tested a few and I can get it on only one) and gnome-system-monitor does
not have a process with the name console-kit-daemon...

Can somebody shed some light on that, please once and for all...

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-04-06 Thread rifter
I am running Ubuntu 9.10 on AMD 64-bit and I have this bug.  I disagree with 
those who say the resource waste from this bug is negligible because at least 
in my case I have 64 instances of this process, each of which are using over 
122MB of RAM, 117MB of which is virtual.  That's a total of over 7.6GB for a 
set of processes that have no discernable purpose.  If it's supposed to be 
monitoring terminals including pseudoterminals, it t seems strange that it 
would be starting so many instances.  It's even more egregious if it is 
supposed to be monitoring real ttys.
Even if you wanted to monitor a bunch of terms, wouldn't it make more sense to 
spawn a more conservative, perhaps configurable, number of processes at the 
outset and spawn more as needed?  That's basically the model for programs like 
Apache and, if memory serves, sshd.  If it's good enough there it would seem it 
should be good enough here.
At the very least we should have a better explanation of why this daemon is 
deemed necessary so we can seek alternatives, or have some workaround.  I'll 
try killing the processes, but it seems to me that just killing off all the 
processes for a program that is poorly understood, at the very least killing 
all instead of some, is a poor administrative solution.
I've been having performance problems as well, and I have to wonder if at least 
part of the problem is not due to this.  At the very least that much memory 
being used is a problem, and I originally sought out answers when I needed to 
free up some memory.

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Re: [Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-04-06 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
 I have 64 instances of this process, each of which are using over 122MB of 
 RAM, 117MB of which is virtual.
 That's a total of over 7.6GB for a set of processes that have no discernable 
 purpose.

I don't think so. Where do you have that numbers from?
Take a look at console-kit-daemon in gnome-system-monitor, column 
resident memory. Should show something below 3MB. Note that this 
includes all the 64 threads!

 I've been having performance problems as well, and I have to wonder if
at least part of the problem is not due to this.  At the very least that
much memory being used is a problem, and I originally sought out answers
when I needed to free up some memory.

Sorry, but console-kit-daemon is not the problem in this case.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-03-06 Thread Gregor Müllegger
I totally agree on syntag's post. I have from time to time very bad
performance inpacts that are caused by consolekit. It eats up many CPU
cycles and slows down the whole system remarkably. RAM is not an issue
since my system is not swaping while this happens. After I pkill -9
all the processes the system gets immediatly much more responsive.

I assume that its not because of my hardware is being slow. I have a
Intel i920 with four physical cores. As mentioned above, the slowdown is
not always the case. It happens only from time to time.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-02-16 Thread syntag
My personal recommendation is to do one thing about this bug --
nothing.

I disagree. The insane amount of threads spawned by consolekit slows
down sorting of the red-black tree in CFS (default scheduler in Ubuntu)
AND eats up unnecessary resources (a few megs of RAM, and probably some
cpu). Actually the threads themselves are unnecessary. It IS a bug, and
it should be fixed since we are practically forced to use consolekit --
remove it and you have an unstable system.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2010-01-18 Thread Aquina
I'm a computer science student (graduation next term) and have recently
reviewed the consolekit code. The kernel and consolekit patches issued
here are fine so far. In my opinion the only reason why this is still
unfixed are the consolekit maintainers on the one hand and the problem
with backports on the other hand. I realized that this bug was reported
when consolekit was in v0.2.x and now it's v0.4.x since karmic I guess.

Nevertheless I'd like to mention that creating lots of (60+) threads has
nearly no performance impact on a computer system with a few hundred
megs of RAM and say 1 GFLOPS (todays systems have about 20-30 times as
much as that). There is nothing to switch (contxt change) besides the
fact that these idle threads do nothing most of the time (state: S).

The whole thing is mostly an architectural one. Some people don't like
to see too manny threads listed in their favourite application or that
way of console usage when it comes to the code. I can only partially
agree with that since users have to thake care of their interface
configuration themselves. Regarding the architectural change I agree
with that but still have to emphasize the low impact on todays computers
and GNU/Linux operating systems with it's modern kernels. Some people
reported about consolekit wasting computing time or memory. I think this
is related to different bugs either in consolekit other parts of the
operating system.

Fixing it by exiting the code in within the main()-function is not an
appropriate solution as well as replacing the binary isn't. You will end
up possibly crashing your system with that (at least parts of the GUI).
Also it is a bit difficult to apply the fixes to older versions of
Ubuntu like 8.04 LTS for e.g. since a kernel patch is involved.
Backports need to be tested. My personal recommendation is to do one
thing about this bug -- nothing.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-12-22 Thread Colin O'Dell
I'm experiencing the same issue on a 9.04 web server.  I've got a cron
job killing all console-kit-daemon processes daily to recover RAM.  The
first time I did this (with 20 days uptime) I saw over 300MB of memory
freed up!  CPU usage is negligible, since most of the threads aren't
active.  This eased my concerns a bit, but I'd still recommend doing a
sudo killall console-kit-daemon to keep memory usage down.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-12-17 Thread Nick Demou
Carl Fink wrote:
 the fact that there are so MANY pointless, unfixed problems is an indictment 
 of Free Software in general

actually, in general, it's how almost all software is build. It's just
that with Free Software it's easier to know when it happens because the
hood is open.

And even more generally that is how humans act when fixing appears to be
less costly than designing. And it's actually A Good Thing when fixing
is indeed less costly than designing.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-12-16 Thread Carl Fink
Whoever is responsible, the fact that there are so MANY pointless,
unfixed problems is an indictment of Free Software in general.  (Absurd
overthreading, htop's unclear mixing of userland threads with processes,
hundreds of packages depending on consolekit for no particular reason,
consolekit being rolled out in major Linux distros before it's actually
fully functional.)

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-12-09 Thread Barn
I know, hikaricore...
I don't understand the 'forget it' attitude. As has been pointed out, Linux has 
always been built efficiently, just because a particular inefficiency 'isn't 
very inefficient' why should we ignore it? It still exists.
What's MORE worrying is the number of people posting who have NO curiosity or 
desire for 'elegance' at all...they're not (whatever they claim) Engineers

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-12-09 Thread Jakob Unterwurzacher
No one says that this should be ignored. I argue that people should stop
proposing crazy workarounds that may break your entire system (now or at
the next distro upgrade) for little benefit.

Upstream has not fixed this, that's why it's not fixed in Ubuntu ( see
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17720 ).

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-11-29 Thread apo
console-kit-dae───63*[{console-kit-dae}]

9.1 karmic

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-11-12 Thread hikaricore
2 years later still not fixed... really?  this isn't gnome-screensaver
we're talking about people.. :p

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-10-30 Thread syntag
still no updates?

one month ago Lennart Poettering wrote (2009-09-24 08:19:58 PST): Alan
gave up maintainership of the console stuff a few weeks back. gregkh
then took this up and one of the first things he did is merge Alan's
patch into his tree. Two days ago this was then merged into mainline. So
I guess that means the kernel infrstructure should now be able to cut
down the threads to two (the ioctl is still blocking)

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-10-18 Thread Linuxonlinehelp_de
Hello at ALL,

do anyone knows a solution for ubuntu 9.04?

i  know this strange bug does debian lenny not have..

on older Laptop with up to 512MB Ram it brakes out the performance

and there is no possibilty to install xserver-xorg by default without
hal+dbus+consolekit to

use older office used Laptops with icewm or jwm

i can't setup classroom PCs with ubuntu if there is no solution..

regards Tom
www.linuxonlinehelp.de

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-10-13 Thread syntag
From http://www.kernelpodcast.org/2009/07/04/20090702-linux-kernel-
podcast/

...Alan Cox followed up to Lennart Poettering’s previous VT_WAITACTIVE
patch with a more generic event interface for Virtual Terminals...
(july 2, 2009)

Is he talking about the same patch? Then perhaps this patch IS in the
new kernels but console-kit has yet to be patched?

I really hope someone solves this problem once and for all...

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-10-04 Thread hikaricore
And it's still in Karmic.

Look I know this isn't a huge deal but it's a pain in the ass for process 
management.
There is a fix for it and I'd love to see it applied in my lifetime.

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-06-29 Thread James Westby
http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/6/29/487

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-05-04 Thread hikaricore
So a year and a half later this is still a problem... what gives?

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-04-06 Thread Nick Demou
** Summary changed:

- console-kit-deamon spawns too many threads
+ console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

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[Bug 148454] Re: console-kit-daemon spawns too many threads

2009-04-06 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: consolekit
   Status: Invalid = Confirmed

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