[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Peter Bittner]

@pat OTA-13 is out, and unfortunately WebRTC applications such as
Talky.io and Appear.in still suffer from an upside-down image displayed
from the person using Ubuntu Touch. Tested with bq Aquaris E5 Ubuntu
Edition. See also bug 1535820. Do you think this can be fixed for
OTA-14?

Test drive:
- https://talky.io/ubuntu-phone
- https://appear.in/ubuntu-phone

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Pat McGowan]

@peter we are fixing the E5 orientation problem as we speak for ota13

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Peter Bittner]

@David: You wanted to refer to bug 1535820 (the leading 1 slipped away
in your email). The video image orientation is a hard bug now, which
makes it impossible to use WebRTC services on Ubuntu Touch.  :-(

Hope we get this fixed in OTA-14 somehow.

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Pat McGowan]

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

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This bug was fixed in the package webbrowser-app -
0.23+16.10.20160620-0ubuntu1

---
webbrowser-app (0.23+16.10.20160620-0ubuntu1) yakkety; urgency=medium

  * Set the front camera as the default for video media requests (LP:
#1563398)
  * Handle theme color change and properly update browsing widgets (LP:
#1567430)
  * Properly propagate touchscreen detection flag (LP: #1585689)
  * Print help when no app-id is present (LP: #1591306)

 -- Alexandre Abreu   Mon, 20 Jun 2016
15:08:41 +

** Changed in: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Released

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

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** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
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Re: [Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[David Barth]

Just confirm that the silo is on its way to the release now, having passed
QA. I listed your appear.in webapp in the testcase.

Note that there is still an annoying issue we are aware of, related to
inverted rotations which are not being exposed by the Qt API. See  bug:
535820 for reference.


On Wed, Jun 22, 2016 at 12:48 PM, Olivier Tilloy <
olivier.til...@canonical.com> wrote:

> @Peter: yes, this is targeted at OTA-12, the change that makes the front
> camera the default for the browser app and webapp container is currently
> in a silo, has been tested and approved, and should be landing this
> week.
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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Olivier Tilloy]

@Peter: yes, this is targeted at OTA-12, the change that makes the front
camera the default for the browser app and webapp container is currently
in a silo, has been tested and approved, and should be landing this
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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Peter Bittner]

Oops, sorry for my inconsiderate follow-up. I somehow overlooked the
progress in the meantime. (I don't get all - some I do! - notifications
from Launchpad anymore since I had to silence Gmail notifications on the
phone using filters in Gmail.)

I still don't fully understand: Will the front-camera be the default in
the web browser app and webapp container for OTA-12? This would be
sufficient as a work-around for now.

P.S.: I'm pretty sure we all understand that neither Appear.in nor
Google (not even any other known company) will care much about what API
Canonical wants them to use. It's good that there is some available but
for now sensible default should produce the optimal outcome for our
mainstream users.

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Peter Bittner]

This task is "In Progress" for more than 2.5 months. Is the status still
correct?

Will this feature be finished for and shipped with OTA-12?

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Olivier Tilloy]

** Changed in: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
   Status: Fix Committed => In Progress

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[David Barth]

** Changed in: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
   Status: In Progress => Fix Committed

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
   Status: Fix Committed => Fix Released

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[David Barth]

Peter, we couldn't land pre-release builds of Oxide 1.15, which is the
release where those fixes were developed and tested.

Oxide is on a 6 weeks release cadence, in sync with Blink upstream, and
that not always allows us to make it into the target OTAs. Between
features and stability / security, we always opt for the latter.

Oxide 1.15 builds are available at 
https://launchpad.net/~oxide-builds/+archive/ubuntu/oxide-next
Next is generally ok on a developer's phone, whereas trunk is not really 
recommended unless you develop on Oxide itself.

With Oxide 1.15 you get the getUserMedia API that lets apps change the
capture devices dynamically. This is what we expect WebRTC applications
to use in the future.

The case of appear.in is that they don't use this API (yet?) and rely on
the "user agent" to switch between cameras. There is such a feature
already in webbrowser-app, where you can switch cameras, the same way
the FAQ advises to workaround the problem on Microsoft Surface.

We definitely want all new WebRTC apps to run great on Ubuntu, ie not
just Google Hangouts. T

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[David Barth]

Thanks for raising again the importance of that feature.

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Peter Bittner]

I had the impression that this feature/change would make it into OTA-11.
I updated yesterday and the rear camera is still the default.

Canonical could have cheering from technology press with sweet working
video chat via the Appear.in webapp. You guys don't seem to want that.
Why? What's wrong?

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[David Barth]

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
Milestone: sprint-22 => sprint-23

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Pat McGowan]

why is this on hold? was under the impression it was complete

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

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** Changed in: webapps-sprint
Milestone: sprint-21 => sprint-22

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Pat McGowan]

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Olivier Tilloy]

>From https://appear.in/information/faq/:

« How do I switch between front and rear facing cameras on mobile?
On iPhone and Android, you can swap the camera by tapping on your own video. 
This will switch between the cameras. »

It’s not clear whether this refers to native apps on Android/iOS, or if
it’s the mobile website. The fact that they mention iPhone and Android
explicitly seems to suggest the former though.

@Peter: have you tried tapping on your own video in the mobile website?
Does it have any effect? (if you can try in e.g. chrome on android, that
would be perfect).

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Alexandre Abreu]

** Branch linked: lp:~abreu-alexandre/webbrowser-app/front-camera-as-
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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Peter Bittner]

This is a useful default (probably for everything apart from photo
shooting apps), and will hopefully land in OTA-11 for real.

Pat, Olivier:
The feature that offers control over which camera an app should use may not 
need to be hidden inside the browser's settings menu, buried three levels deep 
in a hierarchy as now. The alternative to a browser "Settings" menu option is 
of course the "camera" icon in the address bar, as desktop browsers do it. 
Firefox also  has an overlay in the middle of the top edge of the page, in 
addition. This is something that could appear (and fade away) in both the 
webbrowser-app and the webapp-container. Maybe. Or something that appears when 
swiping in with a gesture from one of the edges (bottom edge)?

Alexandre:
For what I see appear.in does not handle switching cameras via app logic on the 
mobile web interface. Only native apps seem to do. (Their FAQ even specifically 
notes a similar problem with Windows Surface tablets. See "I have a Microsoft 
Surface and it only shows the back camera. Help!" at 
https://appear.in/information/faq/) 

Comments related to by Alexandre and Olivier are in:
- https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg19515.html
- https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg19517.html
- https://lists.launchpad.net/ubuntu-phone/msg19510.html

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Alexandre Abreu]

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
Milestone: None => sprint-21

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Alexandre Abreu]

** Also affects: webapps-sprint
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
   Status: New => In Progress

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
   Importance: Undecided => High

** Changed in: webapps-sprint
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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

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** Changed in: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
   Status: Confirmed => In Progress

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[Bug 1563398] Re: Set the front camera as the default for video media requests

[Pat McGowan]

We should also provide a way to select the camera in settings, or better
by dynamically adding an option to the menu

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
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** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
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** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
Milestone: None => 11

** Changed in: canonical-devices-system-image
 Assignee: (unassigned) => David Barth (dbarth)

** Changed in: webbrowser-app (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => High

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** Also affects: canonical-devices-system-image
   Importance: Undecided
   Status: New

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