[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[codywohlers]

20.04 unison package issues should probably be talked about in bug 1875475
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/unison/+bug/1875475

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Mick]

This may help.
After upgrading my Desktop from Mint19 to Mint20 I could not get unison
file sync working to my Ubuntu Server.  With some help from the guys on
the GitHub issues list I have now fixed it. Apparently unison for
Ubuntu19 and Mint20 are compiled differently, and even though they are
both version 2.48.4 they are compiled with different releases of OCaml,
which makes them incompatible.
This is what I did -
Remove all traces of unison
then run 
wget 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/unison/unison_2.48.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
wget 
http://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/u/unison/unison-gtk_2.48.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -r unison this removes the old install
sudo dpkg -i unison_2.48.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
sudo dpkg -i unison-gtk_2.48.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb
sudo apt-mark hold unison   this stops it updating 
sudo apt-mark hold unison-gtk

This is not a proper solution it is just a fix, but it did get me out of a hole 
:)
Mick

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Marco van Beek]

"This is a real show-stopper. It's not possible to fix this with a new
protocol version?"

I think the problem is really, why should different versions of a multi-
part solution break a system, and the answer is they shouldn't, at least
not between minor versions and ideally all versions should be backwards
compatible for at least a few major versions.

Unison is a great program until you want to run it on different systems,
and let's face it, none of us want to build from source if there is a
compiled package already available. We don't always have a choice in
when different machines are upgraded, even updating might need a server
restart that you can't do until the weekend but the desktops are all
done the same day.

It's a fundamental design flaw. It should be backwardly compatible.
Software should ALWAYS be backwardly compatible within minor updates,
let alone major ones.

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Daniel]

Same Problem after upgrading to 20.04 LTS:

server:
  unison version 2.48.4
  Ubuntu 18.04 bionic
  ii  unison  2.48.4-1ubuntu1  amd64

client:
  unison version 2.48.4
  Ubuntu 20.04 LTS focal
  ii  unison  2.48.4-4ubuntu1

Failed: Server: Fatal error during unmarshaling (input_value: ill-formed 
message),
possibly because client and server have been compiled with differentversions of 
the OCaml compiler.

It worked before (Client was Ubuntu 18.04 and 18.10)

This is a real show-stopper. It's not possible to fix this with a new
protocol version?

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[twin]

I had the same problem as reported in #21. The solution was to delete a cache 
file (fp...) in the .unison directory.
If you run unison with '-debug all', it should log the offending cache file 
right before it reports the exception (at least it did for me).

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Timothy Allen]

Just as a note on recompiling, I have tried to build a statically-linked
binary on Ubuntu 19.10 (with OCaml 4.05.0) and run it on 20.04; it
yields the same errors as the dynamically-linked 19.10 binary when run
on 20.04:

Unison failed: Uncaught exception Failure("input_value: ill-formed message")
Raised at file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/lwt/lwt.ml", line 135, characters 6-13
Called from file "list.ml", line 85, characters 12-15
Called from file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/lwt/lwt.ml", line 31, characters 2-37
Called from file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/lwt/lwt.ml" (inlined), line 83, characters 
17-46
Called from file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/lwt/generic/lwt_unix_impl.ml", line 55, 
characters 6-23
Called from file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/lwt/generic/lwt_unix_impl.ml", line 147, 
characters 6-40
Called from file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/main.ml", line 202, characters 6-24
Called from file "/tmp/unison-2.48.4/main.ml", line 131, characters 4-9

Perhaps someone more experienced with OCaml can add some insight.

I have added this information to the upstream bug report at
. We may need to open a
new bug, though, since this doesn't appear to be a packaging issue.

** Bug watch added: github.com/bcpierce00/unison/issues #334
   https://github.com/bcpierce00/unison/issues/334

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Andrew Piskorski]

Interesting.  Thanks for the heads up, bacchus.  I'm not on 20.04 yet,
but plan to upgrade soon.  If I get the same symptoms as you, I'll
probably try recompiling Unison from source.  (I hear it's in OCaml, and
that the specific compiler version can matter.)

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[bacchus]

The unison binary from 18.04 (unison-2.48.4-gtk) does not run on my
20.04 machine:

''' 
Fatal error

Uncaught exception Failure("input_value: ill-formed message")
Raised at file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/lwt/lwt.ml", line 126, 
characters 16-23
Called from file 
"/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/lwt/generic/lwt_unix_impl.ml", line 102, 
characters 8-23
Called from file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/update.ml" (inlined), line 
2096, characters 2-69
Called from file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/uigtk2.ml", line 3372, 
characters 20-75
Called from file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/uigtk2.ml", line 3381, 
characters 16-32
Called from file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/uigtk2.ml", line 156, 
characters 18-22
Called from file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/uigtk2.ml", line 3919, 
characters 4-37
Called from file "/build/unison-Y9EcQW/unison-2.48.4/uigtk2.ml", line 4276, 
characters 4-16
'''

Nor does the newer version run on 18.04:

'''
unison-2.48.4-gtk: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libm.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.29' not 
found (required by unison-2.48.4-gtk)
unison-2.48.4-gtk: /lib/x86_64-linux-gnu/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.28' not 
found (required by unison-2.48.4-gtk)
'''

Any ideas for a workaround?

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Andrew Piskorski]

So this whole bug is clearly just a packaging problem!  The old compiled
binaries still run on newer Ubuntu machines, so the easiest step to fix
this bug is to simply add those old binaries to the unison-all and
unison-all-gtk packages, which currently are empty and useless.

It would be nice to also backport the latest Unison to the old systems,
but presumably that would be more work.

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Andrew Piskorski]

For me on Ubuntu 19.10, the best workaround seems to be to copy its
newer unison-2.48.4 to my old Ubuntu 14.04 machine (and put it into
/usr/local/bin/).  Then on my 19.10 machine, I simply add this line to
the *.prf config file I'm using:

  servercmd = unison-2.48.4

Alternatively, the ancient Unison binaries do still work on Ubuntu 19.10
(yay!), so I can run those when necessary to talk to an old stock
system.

More details on the specific combinations that seem to work vs. break:


Ubuntu 19.10 appears to run these ancient binaries just fine:

- unison-2.40.102-gtk, from the Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS package
  unison-gtk_2.40.102-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb;
  it talks to the stock unison unning on Ubuntu 14.04.4.

- unison-2.32.52-gtk, from the Ubuntu 14.04.4 LTS package
  unison2.32.52-gtk_2.32.52-7ubuntu1_amd64.deb;
  it talks to the stock unison running on Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS.


Ubuntu 14.04.4 appears to run this NEWER binary fine:

- unison-2.48.4, from the Ubuntu 19.10 package
unison_2.48.4-1ubuntu1_amd64.deb


Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS will NOT run these NEWER binaries at all:

- unison-2.48.4,   from Ubuntu 19.10.
- unison-2.40.102, from Ubuntu 10.04.4 LTS.

$ unison-2.48.4
unison-2.48.4: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by 
unison-2.48.4)
unison-2.48.4: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
unison-2.48.4)
unison-2.48.4: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.17' not found (required by 
unison-2.48.4)

$ unison-2.40.102
unison-2.40.102: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.15' not found (required by 
unison-2.40.102)
unison-2.40.102: /lib/libc.so.6: version `GLIBC_2.14' not found (required by 
unison-2.40.102)

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Andrew Piskorski]

Still the same problem in Ubuntu 19.10!  And from the comment above,
20.04 as well.   What is the best workaround for this?

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[matlantis]

In kubuntu 20.04 beta from today I have the problem that can't
synchronize to 18.04s unison, despite the fact, that both system run
unison in the same version 2.48.4.

Fatal error: Server: Fatal error during unmarshaling (input_value: ill-formed 
message),
possibly because client and server have been compiled with differentversions of 
the OCaml compiler.

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Paul Beardsell]

Problem is still present in 18.10

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Paul Beardsell]

I confirm Todd Taft's report - this is still an issue in 18.04. The
whole purpose of having Unison as a Debian/Ubuntu package is to provide
the function that Unison is meant for - to allow syncing of files across
not only multiple machines, but multiple versions of an o/s and between
versions of o/s, current and old. This is not the case with Unison on
Ubuntu. It's the death of Unison - eventually - if unison-all does not
include support for unison as installed on heterogenous and old
hardware, other o/s.

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Todd Taft]

Problem is still present in 18.04
The unison-all and unison-all-gtk have no real content.  The only thing in them 
is the copyright file and a changelog file that indicates that old versions 
were removed.  This contradicts the package description which says that it 
install multiple supported versions in order to sync with older systems.

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Re: [Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Paul Beardsell]

Many Debian and Ubuntu versions e.g. Ubuntu Trusty don't have that version
available. Raspbian Wheezy neither. But those are just examples. Unison is
intended to allow for sync-ing of directories over multiple platforms,
Windows included. As a minimum 2.40 needs to be everywhere, but 2.32 would
also be useful.

p...@beardsell.com

On 5 February 2017 at 01:24, Mark Foster  wrote:

> How about just add the 2.48 version in {xenial,yakkety,zesty}-backports?
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How about just add the 2.48 version in {xenial,yakkety,zesty}-backports?

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Paul Beardsell]

I confirm that installing the previous version from the dpkg works just
fine in 16.04 despite what is reported about incompatible ocaml
versions. I'm using unison to sync various debian-derived machines, some
on Ubuntu 14.04, some on 16.04 and some on various Debians and Raspbian
too.

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Paul Beardsell]

This bug affects 16.10 also.

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Re: [Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Benjamin Pierce]

The protocol uses OCaml’s marshalling library to bundle up complex data
structures into compact binary objects for transfer over the wire.
Between 4.02.1 and 4.02.2 there was an incompatible change in this
library.  This is the first time this has happened, and I hope it will
be the last.

- B


> On Jun 1, 2016, at 5:38 AM, Andreas L  wrote:
> 
> If the unison *protocol* depends on the ocaml-version that seems like a
> bug to me - it's like as if the plain http depended on the c-compiler
> that compiled the browser... :-(
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> Status in unison package in Ubuntu:
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> Bug description:
>  Hi,
> 
>  16.04 comes with a new version of unison, which is great.
> 
>  Unfortunately, it comes just with that new version, not older ones.
>  Unison can synchronize only with precisely the same version on the
>  peer, not interact with others. Therefore a 16.04 machine cannot sync
>  to any older linux (ubuntu,debian,...), especially not to servers
>  running 14.04.
> 
>  Older versions of ubuntu therefore came with different versions of
>  unison, i.e. at least the version of the last LTS version to keep it
>  functional and to have new clients work with older (but still
>  supported) LTS servers.
> 
>  ProblemType: Bug
>  DistroRelease: Ubuntu 16.04
>  Package: unison 2.48.3-1ubuntu1
>  ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.4.0-18.34-generic 4.4.6
>  Uname: Linux 4.4.0-18-generic x86_64
>  ApportVersion: 2.20.1-0ubuntu1
>  Architecture: amd64
>  CurrentDesktop: LXDE
>  Date: Sun Apr 10 10:20:04 2016
>  Dependencies:
>   gcc-6-base 6-20160405-0ubuntu1
>   libc6 2.23-0ubuntu2
>   libgcc1 1:6-20160405-0ubuntu1
>  SourcePackage: unison
>  UpgradeStatus: Upgraded to xenial on 2016-04-06 (4 days ago)
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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Andreas L]

If the unison *protocol* depends on the ocaml-version that seems like a
bug to me - it's like as if the plain http depended on the c-compiler
that compiled the browser... :-(

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Jure Sah]

This bug can be worked around by installing the packages for 15.10. The
packages have no dependencies and install just fine with:

$ sudo dpkg -i

For example use:
* unity-gtk AMD64: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/unison-gtk_2.40.102-2ubuntu1_amd64.deb
* unity-gtk i386: 
https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archive/primary/+files/unison-gtk_2.40.102-2ubuntu1_i386.deb

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Adrian Simmons]

Ubuntu Gnome has unison-all and unison-all-gtk packages with supposedly
include the older version, but even installing these doesn't seem to fix
this problem.

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

[Alberto Salvia Novella]

** Changed in: unison (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Undecided => Medium

** Changed in: unison (Ubuntu)
   Importance: Medium => High

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[Bug 1568459] Re: unison incompatible with older ubuntu/debian versions

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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.

** Changed in: unison (Ubuntu)
   Status: New => Confirmed

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