Sounds great! Does your package reach C7 when idle?
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I use Manjaro. Two days ago, I installed kernel 4.16. The fan is more
stable on the kernel, almost like on windows 10.
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Installing r8168 gets me to C7 package state. Thanks for the help
kaihengfeng, hopefully a more proper solution is on its way!
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Tried APSM enable r8169, the deepest package C state is C3.
The good news is, out-of-tree r8168-dkms can make it to C7.
Before Realtek folks put ASPM back to mainline's r8169, I think use
r8168-dkms is the best compromise here.
Just do `sudo apt install r8168-dkms`.
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Can you try if the Linux source tree here works for you?
https://github.com/khfeng/linux/tree/r8169
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Boot with acpi_osi="!Windows 2015" and all tunables set manually to
good, powertop still shows lowest package state C3 but fans turned off
properly. Attached new dmesg output anyway, but problem seems to be
"workarounded" (not resolved) as I have to set tunables to good manually
or via script.
**
Happy to supply any info that might help. On Arch based Antergos with
the patched realtek driver, and powertop tunables set to good, CPU
package reaches C7 and fan issue is resolved.
Only other difference I can think of is that I have acpi_osi="!Windows
2015" as a kernel boot parameter.
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I was not able to achieve C7 (pc7) with your old kernel either (I just
tried a few days ago). The new kernel does not achieve C7 (pc7) either.
It gets down to C3 at best
** Attachment added: "dmesg.txt"
So the old one can achieve C7 but not the new one? They are pretty much
the same.
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Here is the dmesg, fans are running even with tunables all set to good.
Also I had to set i915.modeset=1 and nouveau.modeset=0 to be able to boot this
kernel.
** Attachment added: "dmesg on 4.13.0-18-generic"
Update: fans were switched off after a while, but powertop tunables
still says package sate only C3
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Hi, can you guys try the kernel [1] and attach dmesg here?
[1] http://people.canonical.com/~khfeng/lp1602888-8168g-aspm/
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Before I resend the patch to reinstate ALDPS and ASPM for r8169, I want to make
sure the change bits I make can work.
The C7 status is exactly what I was looking for.
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Package C7 is the best I can achive as well with the patched r8169
driver & all tunables set to GOOD. But the fan issue seems to be solved
for me with it. The fan rarely even comes on, when it does, it shuts
off a few seconds later, as expected.
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@Kai-Heng Feng (kaihengfeng): tried your kernel and no change, even with
all tunables set to good I got only PCakage C7 state. This machine seems
to be enchanted or something.
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Please try the kernel, I enabled ALDPS and ASPM for r8169.
http://people.canonical.com/~khfeng/lp1602888/
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With the patched r8169 driver Everything seems to be working properly on
Arch when plugged in, so it must be something Ubuntu specific.
I am using bumblebee/bbswitch to disable the nvidia gpu. Where as Ubuntu uses
something called "prime-select" to switch between GPUs.
I am using kernel
After some more experimentation it is clear that I cannot reach C7 power
states when plugged in (the lowest I reach is C3), even with tunables
set to good. I tried the acpi_osi="!Windows 2015" boot parameter with no
luck.
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Idle power consumption seems a little higher than Windows 10. After
idling for 5 minutes on a full charge, the laptop reports temperatures <
50 degrees celsius, and a projected battery life of 3 hours and 25
minutes w/screen brightness of about 70%. This seems a little low, but
not
Bryce Frank,
How was your power consumption when idle and how is your battery life?
Julo Petko, I guess you also need to upgrade to 17.10.
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I'm able to reach C7 even if the laptop is plugged in.
Although I'm running arch linux here. I also have the
acpi_osi="!Windows 2015" boot parameter as mentioned earlier. Not sure
if that matters.
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A tentative success story:
Using the patched r8169 driver & powertop tunables set to "GOOD", my CPU
was able to reach the C7 package state. I noticed C7 is only reached
when the laptop is unplugged, otherwise only C3 is reached. I am not
sure if this behavior is expected, but may be leading to
Even shutdown of laptop didn't help after compiling the driver. Maybe
I'm doing something wrong. Tunables set all to good but the package
lowest state is C3. I'll wait for the upstream patch. I could wait for
almost 2 year anyway, so couple of months I can survive.
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Julo Petko,
Strange, the patched driver works perfectly for me. I'm on kernel
4.13.8, maybe that has something to do with it.
Also, even with the patched driver you MUST set the tunables to GOOD in
powertop, otherwise the CPU package won't get to C7.
Another thing to check - did you do a cold
I apologize for before. I thought it was fixed but its not fixed :(.
The fans didn't turn on for a while, but today the problem occurred
again :(
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Please update the bug as the bios was updated but it did not resolve the issue.
Also I've tried to compile patched driver according the suggested how to from
Occams Beard, but it did not help - maybe I did something wrong.
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** Tags added: bios-outdated-1.2.4
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Does the patch work in your case Kai-Heng Feng?
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Hopefully the author will send patch to upstream.
https://github.com/KastB/r8169/issues/5
** Bug watch added: github.com/KastB/r8169/issues #5
https://github.com/KastB/r8169/issues/5
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Give the patched r8169 driver a try:
https://github.com/KastB/r8169
You should be able to reach C7, and the fan issue should be improved.
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No change with fans on Ubuntu 17.10 for me. By default lowest state for
package is C2. After setting all tunables to good C3, but does not solve
the issue though.
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I'm also interested in hearing if the fan issue is solved on 17.10.
Please keep us updated.
I think I've found the reason the fans turn on, and I believe I found a
work-around under Arch Linux.
After a good bit of research, I think the issue is caused by the CPU
package not being able to get to
Good to hear that. How is your battery life?
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Guys, I erased the old Ubuntu (16.04) and installed Ubuntu 17.10. I am
currently setting up the environment, installing many things, and until
now there isnt any fan noise. I think they fixed the bug I will
report later again if the problem with the fan noise appears.
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I can confirm, the bug still persists even with the most recent kernel
4.11.0-041100 and the most recent BIOS 1.2.2. It's pretty annoying since
it reduces my battery life a lot compared to Windows and also the fan
noise disturbs during the evenings when I am leaving my laptop idle.
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I do not consider it resolved. In my comment I said there was *some*
improvement after making many archaic tweaks. However it's still not
working right even after making those tweaks. I'm not sure why the
status was set to "Fix Released" as I do not think there ever was a
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Occams Beard, as per your comment
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/comments/73
the issue "fans do not shut off once started, even when cool" was
resolved. Did you reopen this report because it stopped happening after
an update? If so, it's best to file a new report
I'm on Kubuntu 17.04 and this bug persists on my Dell 7759 with bios
1.2.2. When fan is turned on never more is turned off.
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I've changed the status of the bug to "Confirmed". It lets me change
the status for some reason. I guess because I originally submitted the
bug.
A while back someone from canonical set it as "Fix Released," but like
everyone else, I still have the bug with latest versions of everything.
So I
** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu)
Status: Fix Released => Confirmed
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I do not understand why the bug is closed. I have Ubuntu 17.04 with the
latest updates on my Dell Inspiron 7559 with the latest BIOS 1.2.2 and
the problem still persists. Fans are still on, but the CPU temperature
is about 30deg. Celsius. If others having the same problem, we should
reopen this
same issue. Annoying
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How do I get the fix? My Inspiron 7559 suffers with this issue.
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@Taulant: nobody knows, nobody answers. I do not even know why the
thread was marked as resolved. Maybe you should spam Dell until they fix
it in BIOS. Actually I was so pissed off by this bug that I get rid of
this laptop. Now I'm just curious whether it will be solved at all.
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I have dell 7559, and I am having the same issue as the others. How to
get the fix?
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I've 16.04 on i7559 with all possible updates and the problem still
persist. Any pointers for workaround or how to fix manually without
going to beta versions?
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I've installed Ubuntu 17.04 beta and problem still persists, so what the
hell is the fix!?
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How Do I get the fix? I'd like to give it a chance before I'll the
laptop away.
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So what is a status of this issue? Interesting because I've got a lot of
bug status change mumbo-jumbo to my email.
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Yes, I have this bug.
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@d-bob-1 and @Peter
Well, you are right!
I omitted to say that I returned at the beginning of the year a Dell 7559 (with
Win10) after only 24 hours of use!!!
The reason was that, after I made an video driver update for nvidia gc, video
was suddenly freeze watching on youtube !!!, and fans went
@daniel.ionescu2016
Please do not make assumptions. Dell vostro 3568 i3 7100 is not the
model mentioned in this bug report. Quirky fan behavior happens even
if you do not have a browser open.
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@Daniel: Not true!
1. I'm using adblock and do not have flash installed anyway
2. Same web browsing on Windows keeps laptop much cooler and battery lasts
about 70minutes longer
3. Read the bug thread on kernel bug tracker, I've created
4. This also happens when leaving laptop idle and with
It's not from Kernel or Bios. It's tied with browsers (chrome or firefox, any
of theme). and especialy with open tabs containing a lot of garbage (like
commercials/adds on news sites).
dell vostro 3568 i3 7100, ihdg 620, 4 GB ddr4, 128GB+120GB ssd
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After much consideration I have finally decided to buy Dell 7566 - a
Skylake 6700hq version (a successor of 7559 model).
I am running Debian testing (Stretch) with kernel 4.8.0.2 with nouveau
driver. After testing it for while I can now confidently say that in
this configuration the 7566 model
* apologies for misleading observation above, the change in GPU temp was
caused by un-blacklisting nouveau
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@penalvch, yes, I was planning to rebuild my previous setup ( that had
multiple issues ~4.4.0-51 or 53 ) for your suggested reporting
However, I just checked 4.4.0-57 during the week and noticed that my
fans have been able to stop ( without any manual fixes )
For reference, the history of my
turoyo dee / Luan Silas, so your issue may be tracked, it will help immensely
if you filed a new report with the Ubuntu repository kernel (not
mainline/upstream) via a terminal:
ubuntu-bug linux
Please feel free to subscribe me to it.
For more on why this is helpful, please see
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@penalvch , I have to ask why the issue is closed, since this was reported for
16.04 LTS.
and the recommended solution requires kernel 4.9, which is not even scheduled
for next point release [16.04.2 - 4.8].
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Occams Beard, this bug report is being closed due to your last comment
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1602888/comments/73
regarding this being fixed with an update. For future reference you can
manage the status of your own bugs by clicking on the current status in
the yellow
After longer observing of the system it seems that fans are turning off in my
case only in case of leaving system idle for about 20+ minutes when the CPU
temp drops down to ~30C, that means problem with fans still exist, however it
is an improvement.
Anyway I have to say that with 4.9 kernel,
Update from my test with ubuntu xenial:
- installed 16.04.1
- updated to 4.8.12
[my test may not be as useful because of this, but I did not have a lot of
time, and decided to proceed with latest release]
- installed nvidia 375.20 and switched to intel graphics
- replaced grub parameter
Just an update - i've left the laptop sit idle for a while and the fans
haven't turned on for the last hour or so.
If I use the laptop, like web browsing, etc. The fans eventually start
back up then run for a while then turn back off.
So, it seems like something has improved but still not
Thanks, Peter.
Yes, switched to Intel using prime-select. All other settings are pretty
much the same as yours according to the screenshot, but I'm really not
seeing much difference. I do notice the fans eventually shut of after a
long time, and stay off for a short period, but then they start
@d-bob-1:
- Those USB things in powertop are just my external keyboard and mouse.
- on grub I did not escape the doublequotes.
- Did you switched GPU to Intel in NVIDIA X Settings manager?
My fans are spinning like 20 minutes too but then they are turned off, please
see my attachment here
Just tried with Ubuntu 16.04
Updated to latest dell BIOS
Installed kernel 4.8.11
Installed nvidia 375.20 (From PPA)
Added !Windows 2015 grub boot parameter
Installed powertop and set tunables all to good
Fans still spinning away after 20 minutes :(
A couple questions. Can you show the line in
Have anybody tried my setup? Could anybody confirm whether it works? For
me it seems fine, also with Kernel 4.9 temperatures are almost
comparable to Windows.
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>> I do not want to make premature conclusions, but so far it seems that CPU
>> temperatures on idle are about 40C
- This looks like good news after so many months of frustration, good work! I
still have not decided upon buying the 7566 (7559 is becoming harder to come
by), but this could give
@All:
This is a current script for powertop tunables which I am running after reboot.
All commands above the line # FANS OFF!!! are so far needed to get the fans
working (including setup I've mentioned in my post #64)
You can play and sort out which are really needed to get the fans working as
@Alex:
yes after using those 2 commands I could get PC3 package state, but it seems
that this didn't help with the fans problem. I had to set more tunables to good
to get them working (I'm trying to investigate which are really needed to be
set to Good, but it would take some time). Btw, I do
@Peter I see your deepest package level is PC3. On your model if you
don't touch tunables, but instead do below commands (this puts SATA
controller in a low power mode):
echo min_power > /sys/class/scsi_host/host0/link_power_management_policy
echo min_power >
@lpturoyo:
- I have BIOS 1.2.0
- Installed Kernel 4.8.11-040811-generic or later
- I have installed nvidia binary driver 375.20 - switched to intel gpu in
NVIDIA X Server setting - Prime profiles
- reboot and boot with grub parameter acpi_osi="!Windows 2015" (i've replaced
quiet splash)
Then
@peter-biely, if you could provide exact steps to replicate the setup, I
can test this setup in the coming week.
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One more thing I've forgot to my previous post, here's my powertop - Tunables
setting
I could get package state to C3
Bad NMI watchdog should be turned off
Bad Autosuspend for unknown USB device 1-5 (8087:0a2a)
Bad Autosuspend for USB device USB Device
Could you anybody please test and confirm whether this setup with 6700HQ
cpu works?
- BIOS 1.2.0
- Kernel 4.8.11-040811-generic
- installed nvidia binary driver 375.20 - switched to intel gpu using prime
select
- boot with additional grub parameter acpi_osi="!Windows 2015"
(yes use doubleqoutes)
@Peter
> your ASPM bug
I think you may opt it out, since ASPM doesn't work at Windows too (see
powercfg /energy report there).
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@Alex: unfortunately not. The only 2 bugs may have to influence Fans:
- your ASPM bug and
- very possibly my - fans bug (powertop maybe since package does not reach
lower than C3 state)
on kernel bug tracker.
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@Peter
That's may be possible since their genuine detection is not perfect, for
example it passes under VirtualBox ;)
So looks like there is no benefit in Dell Ubuntu?
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@Alex: I have SSD in M.2 so far primary used with Windows and original SSHD
with Linux, I've installed it without any issue from USB key on my HDD without
any modification of ISO. It started with the nice dell logo on boot and I could
also see Dell repositories/drivers in Driver manager, but
@filsd Thank you much!
@Peter
> Installed Ubuntu 14.04 from filsd (thank you for sharing that btw) on my i7
> Inspiron
Just wondering on how you installed, since if your system initially came with
Windows preinstalled, filsd's recovery media wouldn't allow you to install the
system. See
no further notes here, is this issue fixed for everyone else?
for those who have the dell/ubuntu distro, could you share your output
for lsmod please?
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I have similar battery-life as filsd on full workload ( but my setup is
very difficult to replicate on windows - different IDEs, and so on ).
However, on relatively idle load, min brightness with wifi on.
windows reads 5+, even 6+ hours on ( on first 10+ min. )
while ubuntu reads 4.75 hrs. max (
No. I dont have Windows installed.
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>> battery life is really good, like 3h to 4h good (only needing to lower the
>> brightness)
3-4 hours isn´t that great. Have you compared it with Win under the same load?
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@peter-biely, I'll recheck during this weekend.
In the meantime, as I previously indicated, I tried 16.10, and unfortunately:
problem persists. fans keep spinning even when idle.
I have also tried i8kutils while on 16.10, and find that it works fine.
- turns off fans properly according to
@gnidorah done. :]
@peter-biely Your welcome. My fans also spin like crazy "when" they spin. My
CPU temp is hi because i'm on Brazil (38C avg).
But just for consideration, I only use the nvidia card with optimus and my
battery life is really good, like 3h to 4h good (only needing to lower the
Installed Ubuntu 14.04 from filsd (thank you for sharing that btw) on my i7
Inspiron and:
- in powertop cpu lowest level is C3 as the kernel 3.19 does not fully support
Skylake power management
- psensor shows that fan were spinning crazy at 5k rpm but cpu/gpu temp was
about +28C even after
@filsd Whoops, sorry. Fixed that. Please share :-)
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@penalvch: I can confirm the problem still exists on
4.9.0-040900rc4-generic
I also can confirm that taking the bottom of the laptop off and blowing cool
air in there shuts off the fans. Monitoring CPU temp while doing this, it's
around 25c - but it seems to vary, sometimes 26c, sometimes
Ok guys, I'm gonna send it.
I ask you guys to not make it public. I'm only giving this to help find
the bug that plagues this awesome laptop.
Thanks. :]
PS: @gnidorah I didnt sent you the download. I dont have access to your
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@lpturoyo: have you tried to run psensor or sensors to get temp. value which
shuts the fans off?
You should also post your finding here (with the fans off temp.):
https://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=153281
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I have just tried simply removing the bottom cover and holding the
laptop against an electric fan. And the fans stopped spinning.
I had to run several applications and execute a heavy task to re-trigger the
fans. Fans start at max speed for a few seconds and then settle down at
typical low
@penalvch: I can confirm the problem still exists on
4.9.0-040900rc4-generic
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1602888
Title:
Dell Inspiron 7559 fans do not shut off once started, even
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